Who's Online
0 registered (), 68 Guests and 41 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Advertisement
Shout Box

Newest Members
TobyGreenhorn, westau12, rokok123, MixtapeDist, MrFarmer
39077 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Doobie_Brother 159
kenny_canuck 96
weedmen 80
Chris628 61
rasta 55
Forum Stats
39077 Members
55 Forums
183375 Topics
1650294 Posts

Max Online: 1054 @ 07/29/08 07:31 AM
June
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30
Advertisement
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#981595 - 02/14/05 10:54 PM Syria hiding Iraqi WMD
Mr Hand Offline
Ganja God
**

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 6309
Syria hiding Iraqi WMD
Posted by: Editor on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 06:00 PM

A relative of Syrian President Bashar Assad is hiding Iraqi weapons of mass destruction in three locations in Syria, according to intelligence sources cited by an exiled opposition party.

The weapons were smuggled in large wooden crates and barrels by Zu Alhema al-Shaleesh,
known for moving arms into Iraq in violation of U.N. resolutions and for sending recruits to fight coalition forces, said the U.S.-based Reform Party of Syria.

The party, based in Potomac, Md., regards itself as a secular body comprised of Syrians who want to see the country embrace "real democratic and economic reforms."

One weapons-cache location identified by the sources is a mountain tunnel near the village of al-Baidah in northwest Syria, the report said. The tunnel is known to house a branch of the Assad regime's national security apparatus.

Two other arms supplies are reported to be in west-central Syria. One is hidden at a factory operated by the Syrian Air Force, near the village of Tal Snan, between the cities of Hama and Salmiyeh. The third location is tunnels beneath the small town of Shinshar, which belongs to the 661 battalion of the Syrian Air Force.

The nephew of Zu Alhema al-Shaleesh, Assef al-Shaleesh, runs Al Bashair Trading Co., a front for the Assad family involved prior to the war in oil smuggling from Iraq and arms smuggling into the country. Al-Bashair has offices in Damascus, Beirut and Baghdad.

In an exclusive interview yesterday with the London Telegraph, Assad came close to admitting his country possessed stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction.

Assad told the London paper Syria rejects American and British demands for concessions on weapons of mass destruction, insisting Damascus is entitled to defend itself by acquiring its own chemical and biological deterrent.

He said Israel must agree to abandon its undeclared nuclear arsenal in order for Syria to consider any deal with the U.S.

Last week, the Los Angeles Times reported Al Bashair Trading Co. participated in the smuggling of millions of dollars worth of sophisticated arms and equipment to Saddam Hussein for three years prior to the Iraqi leader's overthrow.

Al Bashair executives met with North Korean firms before the war began, according to the Los Angeles daily. The paper's three-month investigation included the translation of 800 signed contracts found in the Al Bashair Trading Co. office shortly before U.S. troops entered Baghdad.

Just prior to the U.S.-led effort to oust Hussein, SES International Corp. signed at least 50 contracts to supply weapons and gear to Iraq, the Times said, including 1,000 heavy machine guns and up to 20 million rounds for assault rifles.

Not all the weapons were delivered, but some may still be in use by terrorists battling the U.S. occupation forces, the newspaper said.

At least one shipment of arms was completed with the help of the Syrian government in violation of a U.N. arms embargo.

SES International Corp. denied any wrongdoing, while Syria's foreign ministry refused to comment to the Times.

http://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php/


Top
#981596 - 02/14/05 11:04 PM Re: Syria hiding Iraqi WMD [Re: Mr Hand]
Anonymous
Unregistered


are you and Donor the same person...your both useing the israeli propaganda source

http://www.2la.org/syria/

Top
#981597 - 02/14/05 11:06 PM Re: Syria hiding Iraqi WMD
Mr Hand Offline
Ganja God
**

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 6309
I saw that..Donor is Canadian

Top
#981598 - 02/14/05 11:09 PM Re: Syria hiding Iraqi WMD [Re: Mr Hand]
Donor Offline
Enthusiast
*

Registered: 10/28/04
Posts: 382
Quote:

I saw that..Donor is Canadian



How insulting! Im in the U.S.A.

Top
#981599 - 02/14/05 11:29 PM Re: Syria hiding Iraqi WMD [Re: Donor]
Anonymous
Unregistered


we all know syria has large stockpiles of weapons...but theres no evidence in your source that there is Abombs...or such....just hearsay...just like saddams...

Top
#981600 - 02/14/05 11:52 PM Re: Syria hiding Iraqi WMD
lexic0n Offline
Old hand
**

Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 815
exile groups are of absolutly no reliability when it comes to these matters.

chalabi is of course the perfect example of why not to trust exiles.

These are the regimes worst enemies, they have everything to gain by having the US invade them.
_________________________
Click here for Daily updated Videos!

Top
#981601 - 02/15/05 06:30 AM Re: Syria hiding Iraqi WMD [Re: lexic0n]
Anonymous
Unregistered


I was stationed on the Syrian border with some infantry last year, pumping their gas . They would arrest supposed terrorists every day, coming across the border with mortars, AKs, and RPGs.(And buttloads upon buttloads of money). Never heard of them bringing any WMDs over though. But why would they tell me, right?

Top
#981602 - 02/15/05 07:10 AM Re: Syria hiding Iraqi WMD
Mr Hand Offline
Ganja God
**

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 6309
Iraqi WMDs, Now in Syria
By Larry Elder
Townhall.com | May 6, 2004

"Week after week after week after week," said Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., about President Bush's rationale for going to war with Iraq, "we were told lie after lie after lie after lie." Were we?

Jordan recently seized 20 tons of chemicals trucked in by confessed al-Qaeda members who brought the stuff in from Syria. The chemicals included VX, Sarin and 70 others. But the media seems curiously incurious about whether one could reasonably trace this stuff back to Iraq. Had the terrorists released a "toxic cloud," Jordanian officials say 80,000 would have died!

So, I interviewed terrorism expert John Loftus, who once held some of the highest security clearances in the world. Loftus, a former Army officer, served as a Justice Department prosecutor. He investigated CIA cases of Nazi war criminals for the U.S. attorney general. Author of several books, Loftus once received a Pulitzer Prize nomination.

John Loftus: There's a lot of reason to think (the source of the chemicals) might be Iraq. We captured Iraqi members of al-Qaeda, who've been trained in Iraq, planned for the mission in Iraq, and now they're in Jordan with nerve gas. That's not the kind of thing you buy in a grocery store. You have to have obtained it from someplace.

Larry Elder: They couldn't have obtained it from Syria?

Loftus: Syria does have the ability to produce certain kinds of nerve gasses, but in small quantities. The large stockpiles were known to be in Iraq. The best U.S. and allied intelligence say that in the 10 weeks before the Iraq war, Saddam's Russian adviser told him to get rid of all the nerve gas. It would be useless against U.S. troops; the rubber suits were immune to it. So they shipped it across the border to Syria and Lebanon and buried it. Now, in the last few weeks, there's a controversy that Syria has been trying to get rid of this stuff.

They're selling it to al-Qaeda is one supposition. We know the Sudanese government demanded that the Syrian government empty its warehouse in Khartoum where they've been hiding illegal missiles along with components of Weapons of Mass Destruction. But there's no doubt these guys confessed on Jordanian television that they received the training for this mission in Iraq. . . And from the description it appears this is the form of nerve gas known as VX. It's very rare, and very tough to manufacture . . . one of the most destructive chemical mass-production weapons that you can use. . . They wanted to build three clouds, a mile across, of toxic gas. A whole witch's brew of nasty chemicals that were going to go into this poison cloud, and this would have gone over shopping malls, hospitals . . . .

Elder: You said that the Russians told Saddam, "There is going to be an invasion. Get rid of your chemical and biological weapons."

Loftus: Sure. It would only bring the United Nations down on their heads if they were shown to really have Weapons of Mass Destruction. It's not generally known, but the CIA has found 41 different material breaches where Saddam did have a weapons of mass destruction program of various types. It was completely illegal. But no one could find the stockpiles. And the liberal press seems to be focusing on that.

Elder: It seems to me that this is a huge, huge story.

Loftus: It's embarrassing to the (press). They've staked their reputations that this stuff wasn't there. And now all of a sudden we have al Qaeda agents from Iraq showing up with Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Elder: David Kay said, in an interim report, that there was a possibility that WMD components were shipped to Syria.

Loftus: A possibility? We had a Syrian journalist who defected to Paris in January. The guy is dying of cancer, and he said, "Look, my friends in Syrian intelligence told me exactly where the stuff is buried." He named three sites in Syria, and the Israelis have confirmed the three sites. They know where the stuff is, but the problem is that the United States can't just go around invading Arab countries. . . We know from Israeli and defectors' intelligence that the son of the Syrian defense minister was paid 50 million bucks to bring the stuff across the border and bury it.

Elder: Why would al-Qaeda attack Jordan?

Loftus: Jordan is an ally of the United States. It's at peace with Israel. And Jordan has a long history of trying to prosecute terrorists. . . There are a lot of reasons. . . They want to make an example of them. They want to terrorize as many of the Arab states as possible. This is sort of a political dream for the president. The worst nightmare is al-Qaeda gets Weapons of Mass Destruction from Iraq. And it looks like it's coming true.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13282

Top
#981603 - 02/15/05 07:12 AM Re: Syria hiding Iraqi WMD [Re: Mr Hand]
Mr Hand Offline
Ganja God
**

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 6309
January 25, 2004
David Kay says Iraqi WMDs shipped into Syria as well
From InstaPundit:


HERE'S SOMETHING FROM DAVID KAY that hasn't gotten as much attention as other things he's said:


David Kay, the former head of the coalition's hunt for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, yesterday claimed that part of Saddam Hussein's secret weapons programme was hidden in Syria.

In an exclusive interview with The Telegraph, Dr Kay, who last week resigned as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said that he had uncovered evidence that unspecified materials had been moved to Syria shortly before last year's war to overthrow Saddam.

"We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons," he said. "But we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved."

Dr Kay's comments will intensify pressure on President Bashar Assad to clarify the extent of his co-operation with Saddam's regime and details of Syria's WMD programme. Mr Assad has said that Syria was entitled to defend itself by acquiring its own biological and chemical weapons arsenal.


Hmm. We've been hearing those reports from various sources of uncertain reliability (like Debka) since the war. But this is a bit more significant. Is Syria next?

UPDATE: Michael Ubaldi emails: "You know, when I read the Kay report it was a brief in Reuters and the first thought I had was, 'Okay, what did Kay say that they didn't report?' Trouble is, the abbreviated version has had two days to sink in." Yeah, you'd almost think somebody wants it that way.


If we end up finding WMD related stuff in Syria, everyone is going to have to start taking Debka a bit more seriously, no?




Edited by abbracadabra (02/16/05 12:35 AM)

Top
#981604 - 02/15/05 08:27 AM Re: Syria hiding Iraqi WMD [Re: Mr Hand]
skellington Offline
Ganja God
***

Registered: 09/08/99
Posts: 7406
i guess syria is also hiding all the equipment and facilities used to make iraqi WMD

Top
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 >