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#926550 - 11/01/04 05:12 PM I accuse! Institutional racism of drug reform. *****
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The racism of the drug war is well-known. See:
http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/charts5.htm and
http://www.google.com/search?q=institutional-racism+drug-war

But I now see that the drug reform movement is permeated with what is called "institutional racism." See:
http://www.google.com/search?q=institutional-racism

Drug War Politicians are obviously racist in how they apply the drug war.

The unconscious institutional racism and politics involved in drug reform is not so obvious.
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#926551 - 11/01/04 06:34 PM Re: I accuse! Institutional racism of drug reform. [Re: eco2man]
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"But I now see that the drug reform movement is permeated with what is called "institutional racism." See:
http://www.google.com/search?q=institutional-racism"

- i don't get it...how does that link prove the drug reform movement is permeated with institutional racism...are you suggesting that this drug reform site is permeated with institutional racism? are you suggesting that marc emery's organization is racist?
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#926552 - 11/01/04 06:50 PM Re: I accuse! Institutional racism of drug reform. [Re: eco2man]
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http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/charts5.htm




Why do you constantly spam your link everywhere? Are you the leading authority on racism in policymaking or are you just spewing someone else's hard work and research.

Why not do some studies of your own, publish them to a reliable source and then link to them and their revealed light.

Your redundant self-promotion is growing tiresome and makes you look desparate for hits.

Go apply at the ACLU... get a job and get a grip. Oh, and then post your link at Christian websites and stop wasting your time singing to the choir.

Courage is needed to win this war. Stop taking comfort in camp and start fighting on the battlefront.
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#926553 - 11/01/04 07:30 PM Re: I accuse! Institutional racism of drug reform. [Re: RagnarokNRoll]
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That link has been in my posts here mostly only since racism raised its ugly head here recently in replies to some other people's posts on the racism of the drug war.

And that page has required an incredible amount of time on my part over YEARS. I doubt there is a better, easier-to-understand compilation of charts and info on the racism of the drug war anywhere on the web. If you know of any better please let me know. I would like to link to it.

That webpage gets a lot of hits on my website. Most of the hits come from search engines. So it IS out there reaching beyond the choir.

What are YOU doing on the battlefront?
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#926554 - 11/01/04 07:40 PM Re: I accuse! Institutional racism of drug reform. [Re: skellington]
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- i don't get it...how does that link prove the drug reform movement is permeated with institutional racism...are you suggesting that this drug reform site is permeated with institutional racism? are you suggesting that marc emery's organization is racist?




Just look at the replies in the locked threads and decide for yourself. Marc Emery thought they were racist and said so.

By the way it looks like my star rating went down again from 3 to 2. If anybody thinks fighting the racist drug war is a worthy topic of discussion then please HELP!

You can rate me 5 stars here:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/showprofile.php?User=3695

That should bring the average back to 3. But what the hey... Maybe I should just be meek and quiet like a little cannabis mouse and accept the coming mandatory minimums in Canada like the rest of the sheeple here..
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#926555 - 11/02/04 12:08 AM Re: I accuse! Institutional racism of drug reform. [Re: eco2man]
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By the way it looks like my star rating went down again from 3 to 2. If anybody thinks fighting the racist drug war is a worthy topic of discussion then please HELP!

You can rate me 5 stars here:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/showprofile.php?User=3695

That should bring the average back to 3. But what the hey... Maybe I should just be meek and quiet like a little cannabis mouse and accept the coming mandatory minimums in Canada like the rest of the sheeple here..






Stop being so needy (and narcissistic). People are rated for a lot of different reasons, the least of which is their request for it.

If you are proud of your endeavors (which are noble in and of themselves), why do you need a group of 1's and 2's (as in binary) to rate you a 5?

Post some of your LTE's and clippings from newspapers showing you doing your thing. THAT is the battlefront and THAT is activism. Your compilation (authorized links or not) is nothing more than a public service. Again, a good public service, but nothing more and not really worth the extended kudos you seem to live on.

Buy a dog for unconditional love, because here you have to earn it through DEEDS and not posturing.


RNR

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#926556 - 11/02/04 02:53 AM Re: I accuse! Institutional racism of drug reform. [Re: RagnarokNRoll]
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You are a laughable wannabe. The star ratings should be eliminated since they only serve assholes like you who have nothing at all constructive to contribute. People who only want to criticize without suggestions for improvement. People who use star ratings as their way of revenge. Probably because you are a racist and are offended by discussions of racism. That is how the star ratings for me went down the last 2 times. When I discussed racism. Racists came out of the woodwork for those threads. Go look at the locked threads to see what I mean.

I help organize the MMM worldwide, idiot. Top that. I have gotten letters to the editor published. Under both my real name and my pseudonym. I have personally helped organized cannabis rallies that have gotten thousands of people in attendance. I have been arrested 3 times for civil disobedience for various causes. I have a cannabis and drug reform website that gets 25,000 hits a month.

What have you done on the web, off the web, or anywhere to stop the racism that is the root of the drug war? That is what this thread is about. Remember? You have not contributed a single positive constructive thing to this thread. Name anything constructive you have done for cannabis and drug reform.

It is amazing to me how discussion of racism and the drug war bring out people like you who try to discuss everything except how to stop the racism which is the root of the drug war. This is an example of what is meant by "institutional racism."

YOU exemplify this problem.



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#926557 - 11/02/04 09:31 AM Re: I accuse! Institutional racism of drug reform. [Re: eco2man]
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i still don't understand the google link

yes, there are people on this forum with racist opinions...there are people like that EVERYWHERE...i think the majority of people on these forums (including the operator of this site) are opposed to racism and therefore, this site is not "permeated with institutional racism"

however, fighting racism is a good fight and i wish you good fortune in your endeavors
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#926558 - 11/02/04 10:47 AM Re: I accuse! Institutional racism of drug reform. [Re: eco2man]
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People who use star ratings as their way of revenge. Probably because you are a racist and are offended by discussions of racism. That is how the star ratings for me went down the last 2 times. When I discussed racism. Racists came out of the woodwork for those threads. Go look at the locked threads to see what I mean.








Just what the world needs.....Another victim
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#926559 - 11/02/04 12:12 PM Re: I accuse! Institutional racism of drug reform. [Re: redaintdead]
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Just what the world needs.....Another victim




As I said it seems all discussions of racism here pull the racists, code-word racists, etc. out of the woodwork. In the right-wing talk radio that blankets America "victim" is a very common codeword for anybody who points out the injustices in societies or groups.

Rather than discuss the topic of the thread, "institutional racism," some people prefer to attack the person pointing out the racism.

Thus these unmoderated or barely moderated racism threads themselves are examples of institutional racism in action.

Institutional racism is the unconscious racism built into organizations or societies. Racism built into structures through omission, lack of interest in correcting it, apathy, etc..

The solution is to consciously do something to encourage active positive discussion of racism and the drug war. A separate forum with actively intervening moderators would be what I would prefer. Along with getting rid of the star ratings, or allowing people to opt out of being "rated" by others, since it is just another way for attacks rather than discuss constructively. I myself fall into responding negatively to these attacks, because there is little or no moderation of the threads discussing racism.

Thus nearly all recent racism threads on this forum and the "Current News and Events" have disintegrated into offtopic attacks on various people. Blatantly racist attacks too. None of the racists were banned. None of their posts in those particular threads were deleted. The threads ended up being so offensive that they had to be locked or moved since it became too late to delete the offending posts due to the many responses to those posts. Institutional racism in action.

A better solution, in my opinion, is for the moderators to get together online and discuss constructive ways to solve this problem consciously. I suggest deleting every single racist, code-word racist, and offtopic post in threads that focus on racism.

Moderation doesn't have to be so strict on other topics, but it is obvious that it is needed on threads concerning racism and the drug war. Otherwise no constuctive progress will be made to organize to roll back the ROOT cause of the worst aspects of the drug war: RACISM and BIGOTRY.
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