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#965801 - 01/15/05 04:17 PM Re: Changing the name? [Re: JodieEmery]
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you dont change horses in the middle of a race. the marijuana party has media credibility now. the reporters come to us when theres a story of marijuana. changing the name would look like a compromise , like were ashamed of our name trying to change it. its very clear from the present name what our most important issues revolve around.
we've had this conversation in previous years ...

With same conclusion were not going to wimp out and change it.



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#965802 - 01/15/05 04:20 PM Re: Changing the name? [Re: FlashGordon]
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my @bcmarijuanaparty.ca email address is not working anymore?
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#965803 - 01/15/05 08:15 PM THE POLITICAL COMPASS : WHY LIBERTARIANISM ? [Re: lexic0n]
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Right it did lexeon do you remember Taylor split off formed the L.S.D. party that didn't go very far...

Were not a single issue party but the problem of prohibition is far reaching influencing organized crime, prostitution, poly drug use , paying off the deficits , the need for alternative schools and schooling techniques, effecting the logging industry and environment,in the case of hemp.
Police coruption, prison reform , medicare etc.

If anything if you want a political pole to lean on it's somewhere in the middle and "Libertarian" of the Ann rand variety , but just tampered enough by the influence of we activist pinko types.



The original political meanings of ‘left’ and ‘right’ have changed since their origin in the French estates general in 1789.
There the people sitting on the left could be viewed as more or less anti-statists with those on the right being state-interventionists of one kind or another.
In this interpretation of the pristine sense, libertarianism was clearly at the extreme left-wing.[1]
This sense lasted up to as late as 1848, with Frederic Bastiat sitting on the left in the national assembly.
In Britain, it was the Fabians in particular who adopted old Tory ideas, asserted that they were more to the left than free trade, and labelled them as ‘socialism’ (Rothbard 1979).
In the wake of the Fabians the old left and right has been muddled.
It might be thought that there is now a swing back to the old labels. For instance, the Russians now call the Communists ‘right-wing’.
But it seems that they are mainly following the west in using ‘right-wing’ as a pejorative.


The left-wing views are overwhelmingly about state-control in property matters with choice in personal matters, and that the other list is the opposite.
This is what sorts out the modern left and right; and this also suggests the single alternative choice/control scale.


libertarians and classical liberals then find themselves in the top right-hand corner. Authoritarians, including paternalists, are in the bottom left-hand square. Fascism[4] is in the extreme bottom left-hand corner, being the very opposite of libertarianism. ‘Left-wingers’ are somewhere in the top-left square, with left-wing (anti-money and anti-private property) ‘anarchists’ in the extreme top left-hand corner. ‘Right-wingers’, possibly with certain religious fanatics in the corner, are somewhere in the bottom right square.



left-wing and right-wing are now to the left and right of the diagram. And we are able to describe the choice/control contrast as ‘north-wing’ and ‘south-wing’. With this distinction, libertarians can position themselves on a Political Compass.[5] The expression ‘Political Compass’ has long been used, but not much sense of it has been made before as far as I am aware.





THE POLITICAL COMPASS & WHY LIBERTARIANISM IS NOT RIGHT-WING




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#965804 - 01/15/05 08:17 PM Re: Changing the name? [Re: zigzagwhites]
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Yeah My BCMP email hasn't worked for a while. Thought they got rid of it?

Ok if the team keeps the name I'm with it 100%
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#965805 - 01/15/05 10:59 PM Re: Changing the name? [Re: foam]
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flash, you should do an analysis of the BCMP on http://www.politicalcompass.org/

It would be interesting to see where it turns out.


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#965806 - 01/16/05 12:06 AM Re: Changing the name? [Re: lexic0n]
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Quote:

Thats why message and image must be meticulously crafted and considered when trying to appeal to an electorate that is otherwise busy with their day to day lives.





I stole this off BigBuds on the forum but why not something like this but with last years leaf logo .



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#965807 - 01/16/05 12:33 AM Political compass quiz results [Re: lexic0n]
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That was fun by I did not anwser "for the party' but along my own lines. The questions are obviously loaded but you have to go with what you feel.

Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41


i'm very happy with my results .
looks like im in same ball park as Gahndi too!
Thank's Lexicon .

Marc's gotta try this ..




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#965808 - 01/16/05 01:03 AM Re: Political compass quiz results [Re: FlashGordon]
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Hmmm... I'm half-way through (GREAT questions) and I was so pleased to see "Marijuana should be legalised" As one of the 'questions'. Everyone should take this test.

I'm with Ghandi, the Dalai Lama, and Nelson Mandela!
That fucker BUSH is in the opposite end entirely.

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56





Great website. Up-to-date questions, and fun!


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#965809 - 01/16/05 01:14 AM Re: Political compass quiz results [Re: JodieEmery]
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i was dead center in the lower left quadrant. -4.00 and -4.11
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#965810 - 01/16/05 03:26 PM Re: Political compass quiz results [Re: lexic0n]
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I'm at same spot as Dalai Llama. I've always been Libertarian so this is a bit of a surprise. We way off topic..
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