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check out their valloon valve works w/ a heat gun.. I ordreed a volcano off ebay about a week ago, it arrived today but I didnt make it to the post office in time so it will have to sit their till monday I got it for 500$ but you can hagle w/ the sellers and some go as cheap as 460$ and for anyone complaining about the price, can you put a price tag on your lungs?

And they will get cheaper. The Volcano could use a few minor refinements, I see a new improved Volcano and I see rip offs, some worse, some good, some better. Quiter blower, digital readout, built in scales, stealth mode models. If it works we will buy it.

just to let you volcano owners know that vriptech.com's glass valloon valve setup tastes a tad better than the volcano's, but the cool thing is the volcano's base unit and valloon can work together to fill tastey balloons! If only they used glass on glass seal for their waterpipe attachment!! dreaming of roor vapors...

Thanks Gopal and thanks everyone.

Yeah, I too have the vriptech setup and a vaporbrothers. The vriptech is awsome, but to me, it is a hassle, especially if two people want to use it. I have almost talked myself into a volcano, just for the ease of use. Also, the vriptech didn't conserve more herb, but used more than I would normally smoke out of a pipe. The vaporbrothers on the other hand was VERY efficient, but it did take longer to get the "effects". How long does it take from the time you put your herb in until you can inhale out of the bag? Also, you have to replace the bag about once every two weeks I hear...

well Ive used nothing but my volcano for the past couple days.. from thin to thick vapor.. all giving a diff taste, I prefer just barely covering the filling screen and running the first bag on number 6-6.5 then next bag stir it up and crank it up a little to 7-8 but that really starts producing some hot vapor..some start at 5 first bag crank up to 6.5 next.. but if Im vaping hash/kif I like to get some thick vapor by turning it to 7 off the bat.. the biggest difference IMO is the taste of these wonderful bags of vapor.. nothing like smoking really hashy tasting every hit.. of course the second bag never taqste as good as the first but still a hell of alot better than smoking, those that are still smoking ever use a cermix heating lighter like the phedor (it retails for 150 but hear works great butane free hit mmm) or anyone glow rodding, heating up glass wands and lighting hash/bud w/ this gives a really great taste.. just dont burn down your house well after 3 bags of vapor from a volcanic eruption Im feeling toasted again after my pot nap I can say hands down the volcano is the best vaporizor Ive used to date!

When you use the vriptech, do you get smokey vapes or are they clear? I try to keep mine clear and can get about 3 good hits out of a small bowl. I always end up using about twice as much as I do when I smoke straight out of a bong though. But the vaporbrothers would use a lot less herb. That is my experience anyway.

You can't argue with experience. I am not sure what you mean by smokey and clear. I can see the vapor when I hit, its not clear, but not smokey really either. Its thinner than smoke, but can still make me cough, the left overs are a golden brown. It has no smokey taste, sometimes the gun is accidentially turned up and it comes out very smokey, and the left overs are dark reddish brown. I keep the dial of my sears gun between 5 and 6, usually closer to 5, 5.25 maybe. I get about 3 good hits from each bowl too, which is pretty much the same amount as I loaded for a personal bong hit which gives 2 or three hits before being dusted. Only the three vaporizer hits seem to get me higher. From my observations vaporizing delivers a higher percentage of the active chemicals from a sample than does smoking. This also fits with the research on vaporizers that has been done. One difference may be that I use a very small amount of water in the bong while vriping. When I take my hit, I usually tilt the bong so the vapor doesn't pass through the water, and then when I carb it I tilt it so the water bubbles. It seems to give a bit bigger hits that way.