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#953951 - 12/24/04 06:24 AM Re: Cloning directly into soil?
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I mist the clones twice a day for about 5 days then go to once a day until I see a few roots coming thru the holes I drilled in the cups.


I don't mist at all. I keep the peat pellet moist. I've always believed that the goal is to force the clone to grow roots to receive moisture, not to receive it by misting. However, if one gets success via whatever method, then that's what matters. Peace and goodwill.
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#953952 - 12/24/04 02:14 PM Re: Cloning directly into soil? [Re: sweetpea]
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Pure peat holds to much water. Yes it keeps the clone alive without misting but it retards actual rooting because of lack of air in the soil. More people fail with peat plugs for cloning than succeed because they end up rotting the stem. Each area of the country and time of year will make or break alot of cloning trials. Here in summer it is hot and dry with high humidity. In Az the summer monthes are hot dry and low humidity. This is another area you must learn to watch the plants and let them tell you wether they need moisture or not for the misting. In coastal AL all year long you have high humidity. A nursery example again sorry guys. Here in TN we mist cutting beds in the greenhouse once every 10 mintues for 5 seconds. In coastal AL they mist for 10 seconds every 20 to 30 seconds depending on which plant is being rooted. So they use 1/2 to 1/3 the misting we have to use.

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#953953 - 12/28/04 05:28 PM Re: Cloning directly into soil? [Re: bw420]
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Yes I agreee, I too have had great success with taking a clone, dipping it into cloning gel, and sticking it in the soil. Infact, I have stopped using rooting cubes all together and now just take my clones and plant them right into the soil. Just make sure you keep the soil nice and wet at all times and they should do fine. I very seldom loose a clone doing this but it does happen, if I had to give you a success rate I would say it is in the 95% range. peace!

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#953954 - 01/02/05 09:05 PM Re: Cloning directly into soil?
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Better late than never, right? I use 3oz plastic dixie cups, filled with a 60/40 mix perlite to pro mix. I put about an inch of straight perlite in the bottom for a little extra oxygen to the roots. I add half strength Maxicrop .01-0-1 to the media until saturated just right then fluff the media up good and add to my cups, sticking clones a little deeper than normal, to allow for settling. With the same Maxicrop solution I mist them 2 or 3 times first 48 hours in tray w/ dome and heat mat.After about 24 hrs I leave gap in dome, increasing it's size daily, to slowly wean them off all that moisture. I have 95-100% survival rate, with a strain I think is pretty damn hard to clone.Here' a pic of one.


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#953955 - 01/03/05 09:01 AM Re: Cloning directly into soil? [Re: Every20]
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Nice roots! How old is that clone in the pic?


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#953956 - 01/06/05 07:16 PM Re: Cloning directly into soil?
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Thanks, the clone is at 14 days, just before transplanting into 4" pots.
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#953957 - 01/06/05 10:58 PM Re: Cloning directly into soil? [Re: Every20]
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just saw the thread but something i learned recently that worked well, apparently this is now being taught in some 'courses' on growing by old pros...

don't mist clones, ever, they dont need it.

use a dome, when the inside is dry, remove the dome and mist IT with water , put back on

leaves 'safer' when dry

worked v well but ihave little experience to compare to

'dome' was ziploc bag over beer cup w cube inside



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#953958 - 01/07/05 10:06 AM Re: Cloning directly into soil? [Re: london]
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Cool, I'll have to experiment with that. For me, when misting, I think I'm basically foliar feeding until they have sufficient roots to pull in nutrients. I wonder if this would still work if you mist just the dome itself?
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#953959 - 01/07/05 01:31 PM Re: Cloning directly into soil? [Re: Every20]
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That is the idea. When you remove the dome you mist it with a fine spray before returning. The problem I had was the mist ran off the dome and into the cell packs on the outer edge and made them to wet. Anything to keep your humidity up for the first week. I use no dome and mist the cuttings themselves.

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#953960 - 01/07/05 01:48 PM Re: Cloning directly into soil?
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I personally love just putting a solo cup full of water in the dome, and then running a fishtank airstone into the cup to make bubbles. :-)

works good :-)


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