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#91868 - 02/14/01 07:31 AM
Re: ATTN Marc Emery - Grow Show Concerns
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Yeah, whatever.
after all, It's only a weed that flowers in your mind!
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#91869 - 02/14/01 11:09 AM
Re: ATTN Marc Emery - Grow Show Concerns
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Excellent reply! I am not trying to dis PotTV, as a matter of fact, I am finishing up an article for CCMAG for Dana. I am a big fan of PotTV, but we have to get real. If you were as consistent with your Bud garden as PotTV is with its broadcasts, you would have really poor grade pot!
If you don't like my fire, Then don't come around, 'cause I'm gonna burn one down!
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#91870 - 02/14/01 02:02 PM
Re: ATTN Marc Emery - Grow Show Concerns
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MrOms,
I know you want the last word but too bad. I hope you realize that Marc Emery makes money because weed is illegal, not because the Pot-TV viewer pool is growing, (although this fact may indirectly increase seed sales, but not that much). The move toward legalization, which is initiated by real activists like Marc and others, not posers on a chat forum, costs shit loads of money because there is no financial incentive to do it. If you've paid attention to ALL of the shows on Pot-TV including the news, you would know that Marc has invested more than $250 000 into the internetwork and has yet to turn a profit. He finances it with seeds sales, not with sponsorship. Marc provides us with Pot-TV because he believes in legalization. How many of you have the balls to go to jail for something you believe in? I never want to go to jail over weed, I'll tell ya that right now. But Marc has and he has suffered for us. No, he's not Jesus Christ, but you should show some fucking repsect for all that he has done. I love watching Pot-TV and even become annoyed when there are no new shows, but then again, I've watched all the shows on Pot-TV and I'm becoming more and more active in the movement than I was when I simply smoked. I'm not bitching about what I didn't get. People, not one of us is getting what he wants, which is legalization. I'm not just defending Marc but people like him who will not take life sitting down in front of their computers. You can't just sit back and expect that because Pot-TV is "TV" things to be like NBC. Hey people, WEED IS ILLEGAL IN CANADA. Where the hell did you score your first joint? It wasn't from the convenience store. Did you ever think that someone was risking a hell of a lot to grow it (and to make money)? The whole fucking business is risky, not just your measly grow operation. Open your eyes. You are not in a position to make demands. You have to become active. People are still going to jail and suffering because of prohibition. You need to open your eyes and find out how this fucking site came to be. It didn't happen over night. Marc will never make money from Pot-TV, and if he does it will be taken away in one form or another by the police. Get real people! Big corporate sponsors may never advertise on Pot-TV. Yet Pot-TV has been running without your input for a while now. Imagine how much money it costs to have 200 hours of TV stored on a single server and available instantly to the whole world. Just imagine for a minute how much work he must have done just to get the thing online. Respect everything that people have done for the movement to this point and realize that we have a long long way to go before weed is a legal commodity. MK2, you act like the Grow Show is already syndicated. So what if they couldn't keep their promises. I'm sure they're trying. I really believe that they love weed and are working toward legalization. They're doing more than I ever did for the movement. And they're all we've got; they're putting themselves out there for our benefit, not to make money. So what if they're not consistent? Consistency, as MK2 describes it, is a phenomenon of convential business, not an illegal internetwork. They're taking the risks and spending the money. I'm offended on a philosophical level by your presumptuousness, which is why I'm defending Pot-TV and Marc Emery so vehemently. The Grow Show is for ignorant growers, not for experts, and I find it hard to believe that any advanced growers waste their time panicking about the next release of the grow show. What you worry about with regard to this internetwork--advertizing, consistency, professionalism--are a long long way away. IMHO, these types of goals are in line with progressivist thinking, which is also prohibitionist and anti-cannabis culture. In fact, I believe that when pot is legal, there will be no need for Pot-TV. So it's time for all of you complainers out there to get off your asses and do something anti-prohibitionist. In the words of the great Richard Cowan, "What have you done for freedom today?"
I like heated arguments, but truly I have no real animosity toward any of you guys and gals in the forum. Being critical is not the point; coming together is.
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#91871 - 02/14/01 02:58 PM
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very very very well put..
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#91872 - 02/14/01 03:56 PM
Re: ATTN Marc Emery - Grow Show Concerns
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Marc has repeatedly talked about gaining sponsorship, in particular, on the My City interview. I am not criticizing Marc directly, I am just pointing out facts.
By the way, i am involved in setting up New Brunswick's first Compassion Club, and I am also registering NORML NB as a charitable organization. I have been growing outdoors for several years and I have now brought it indoors to try. So I am not quite a poser here. Both my wife and I are medical exemptees, and we have had the police come to our home, and all of the rest of it. We have passed out flyers at trials of growers here, and they were not people we knew. I will never be able to say that I am as prolific as Marc, but selling seeds is his business, so he would be entirely hypocritical to not speak out publicly.
I am just saying that if Marc wants sponsorship, which he has said on several occasions he does, PotTV will have to become more consistent, that is all. I am an Investment Consultant at the Royal Bank of Canada, and I know how investments work. I can tell you that unless Marc is stupid, and he is not, he puts very little of his own cash into PotTV. He pays taxes, and has companies listed. His corporate entity would do well to invest in this network to help reduce taxation.
Regardless, he is a very generous man, and I hope to sit and puff a hoot with him this summer in BC. Relax. Marc and everyone should be happy that people like his work so much that they bitch when they jones.
If you don't like my fire, Then don't come around, 'cause I'm gonna burn one down!
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#91873 - 02/14/01 04:19 PM
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No offense, but how does a 34 year old hippy chronic dope smoker activisit grower become a consultant for the Royal Bank? You're full of shit, man. And if you're not, you'll be in the next Cannabis Culture and I'll look like an idiot until you're no longer an active investment consultant for RBC because there's no way that RBC endorses dope-smoking investment consultants, and I doubt they'd make an exception for you.
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#91874 - 02/14/01 04:37 PM
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Send Dana an email and ask if he is expecting an article! I have worked for the Royal Bank since 1997, thye recruited me from another investment company. Why is it so hard to believe? Oh, and I did not put that on my resume. I hope you don't either. Anyway, I was just trying to share information, I am not here to fight. I don't care how Marc keeps PotTV going, I just hope he does. Do you think that all pot smokers or hippies can only work at Burger King or something? I guess you did not know that The Royal Bank employs 50,000 people, and maybe there was a potsmoker or two in the mix. Actually, I was at a conference in Toronto in 1999 where several 'management' personnel enjoyed a puff. They were not chronic smokers, by far, but they did enjoy an occasional toke.
I wonder if anyone else out there thinks it is unlikely that a pot smoker could be an employee at a financial institution!
Chiil out man!
The article I am writing includes information about the East Coast pot scene, as well as a focus on environmental issues in New Brunswick!
Peace
If you don't like my fire, Then don't come around, 'cause I'm gonna burn one down!
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#91875 - 02/14/01 05:39 PM
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Well, I am here to argue, or "fight" as you call it, because we might actually get somewhere instead of stating our opinions and not listening to the each other. To tell you the truth, I don't care much about your credentials or who you work for or who you're buddies with at CC. Why I brought up RBC is that I suspect something inauthentic about what you say, whether it be the Ties you shared the joint with in TO or the fact that you continue to brown-nose the big-wigs at Pot-TV in these messages (not meant to be a derogatory statement!). Or is it the fact that you talk about starting a fire in your signature while you tell me to chill out. Why don't you fucking chill out?!
I'm not saying that dope-smokers can't have high-paying jobs. I know from experience, however, that not all of your colleagues are dope-smokers and would certainly frown if they knew you grew and spoke out about your use and founded NORML in New Brunswick. Or maybe they have no idea you smoke, by which I mean that you misrepresent yourself at your place of work. You can't have both sides. It is hard to believe that you appear to your colleagues as a "straight" person while you lead this alternative, activist grower's lifestyle. I don't know of anyone else like you, maybe for the purposes of secrecy. But you are a special kind because you seem to be unafraid of the consequences of playing both sides. I'm not convinced you're that strong. I'm not convniced of anything you say, but I will read your article. I look forward to reading it. If what you say is true, you might be among a new generation of activists who aren't afriad of losing their careers and doing jail time. Nevertheless, what concerns me and has bothered me since your first email is that you truly believe in progress. You're no hippy. Or you're no banker. You can't have both because they're mutually exclusive. And maybe nobody is a real hippy. We've all got to eat. So maybe we shouldn't make such claims. By the way, I don't think that all dope-smokers are hippies. And I don't think that all dope-smokers work at Burger King. But the social climate dictates that most professionals do not advertise their substance use, whether it be for a medical condition or not. I'm not saying that you go to work and tell anyone, willy-nilly, how much pot you consume every day. But how and why would you hide it when you consume SO MUCH?
I want to know your reasons for establishing NORML NB and NB's first Compassion Club. I'm not asking for or demanding an explanation. Maybe we can talk in private.
I'm quite used to understanding marijuana as a casual drug, as one that people can enjoy and chill out about, and I'm very used to understanding it as something I have struggled for and fought for, though in microcosmic ways. Marijuana is not a chill-out drug all the time. You said in another article that you smoke 1/4oz a day. Wow. I'm a chronic smoker too, mind you, but not that much. I may not have the knowledge of financial systems that you have, and I think that you might be a good businessman. But I can spot a red herring.
So why don't you pick a side instead of trying to capitalize and self-glorify from the movement. Remember that weed is worth its weight in gold only because of prohibition.
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#91876 - 02/14/01 07:12 PM
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Hello Friend[s]: Here's the thing,where there is no unity there is no strength! How will they know,except there be a preacher,how will there be a preacher except they be sent. If not you,who? If not now, when? The importance of pot-tv cannot be overstated...don't fight against success. Ganja is not a crime...it is what it is and everybody knows it goes in the peacepipe. May Marc-us and company have all the money in the world and do good with it...I'm going to send him some of mine,you?
Always and in everything,louv...
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#91877 - 02/14/01 07:33 PM
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Look at your history, Ganjaji dude. The Afghanis smoked hash before going into battle. How's that for peace pipe? You're right that marijuana is what it is, but it is nothing to people but what we make of it. Marijuana legalization will not change a single thing about the world unless we make sure that the culture follows. I'm afraid that it's already too late. The US has taught all of us the meaning of "success", and it will destroy the world.
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