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#696755 - 12/08/03 10:49 PM Ottawa stays pot charges in 4,000 cases *****
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Source: Globe and Mail (Canada)
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Copyright: 2003, The Globe and Mail Company
Pubdate: December 9, 2003
Author: Kim Lunman

Ottawa ? Ottawa is making it a green Christmas for 4,000 people ? it plans to
stay thousands of charges of pot possession as a result of legal battles over
medicinal marijuana.

The decision will apply to every person in Canada charged with possession of
marijuana between July 31, 2001, and Oct. 7, 2003, Justice Department
spokeswoman Pascale Boulay said yesterday.

The Justice Department intends to cease prosecutions on the cases because of an
Ontario court ruling in 2000 that found medicinal-marijuana users had the right
to possess less than 30 grams of pot. The judge delayed that ruling's effect for
one year in the hope the federal government would introduce a
medicinal-marijuana law.

But the government did not. Instead, the cabinet issued regulations for access
to medicinal marijuana one day before the yearlong grace period ended 2001.The
Ontario ruling created a legal loophole, effectively invalidating Canada's
marijuana possession law as unconstitutional because it failed to provide an
exemption for medical use.

"We estimate there are about 4,000 pending files," Ms. Boulay said. However, she
said that criminal charges of marijuana possession will still be prosecuted
today as a result of the government's announcement yesterday that it will not
appeal the medicinal-marijuana case to the Supreme Court.

"It still constitutes an offence and [anyone caught with marijuana] would face
charges." The federal government recently introduced legislation to
decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana.

Possession of marijuana now carries a maximum penalty of six months in jail and
a fine of up to $1,000.

The decision not to proceed with 4,000 possession prosecutions follows Health
Canada's announcement yesterday that it would not appeal an Ontario Court of
Appeal ruling in October that allows ill people to grow their own marijuana
supply or to obtain it from designated growers.

Some police forces had virtually stopped enforcing the possession law after the
initial ruling threw its constitutionality into question.

Last January, a Windsor judge cleared a 16-year-old on the grounds the federal
pot-possession laws were no longer valid.

Yesterday, Health Minister Anne McLellan said the government would amend the
Marijuana Medical Access Regulations to provide reasonable access to a legal
source of marijuana for medical purposes.

"The amendments announced today will ensure that Canadians who suffer from
serious medical conditions for whom conventional therapies have not been
successful will have reasonable access to a legal source of marijuana," she
said.

But the people at the centre of the court case are upset the government will
continue to strictly limit local growing operations, forcing patients to obtain
government pot, which they consider inferior and overpriced.

"I've got mixed feelings about it," said Jari Dvorak, a 62-year-old
medicinal-marijuana user in Toronto who uses the drug to alleviate symptoms of
HIV. "They seem to be half-hearted about the program."

Mr. Dvorak is among 697 patients in Canada authorized by the government to use
medicinal marijuana. He is also among 11 patients to take Ottawa to court over
the program's lack of access.

The lawyer representing the patients in the case, Alan Young, also had concerns
about whether the government would ensure access to medicinal marijuana.

"All I've seen is crisis public-policy management," he said. Under the new
rules, it will be acceptable for a patient to pay his or her supplier, and the
price is left for them to negotiate. But the rules will continue to prevent a
grower from supplying more than a single patient, and to prevent more than three
patients from cultivating together.

The new regulation contains some minor changes in the procedure for obtaining
approval for marijuana access. One class of patients, which had previously
required signatures from two medical specialists, will now require only one
signature. Currently there is little scientific evidence that pot has
therapeutic benefits, but many patients say it helps them deal with nausea, pain
and lack of appetite.
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#696756 - 12/08/03 10:57 PM Re: Ottawa stays pot charges in 4,000 cases [Re: escapegoat]
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I just faxed Pascale Boulay a copy of our press release. We will continue to get the message across that MARIJUANA POSSESSION IS LEGAL ONCE AGAIN.
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#696757 - 12/09/03 07:33 AM Re: Ottawa stays pot charges in 4,000 cases [Re: escapegoat]
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I just faxed Pascale Boulay a copy of our press release. We will continue to get the message across that MARIJUANA POSSESSION IS LEGAL ONCE AGAIN.




Despite the Ultra Vires ruling of the OCA, you cannot resurrect a law already deemed to be of no force and effect, only Parliament is allowed to do so.

Is our Constitution and our Charter turning into meaningless pieces of paper like the US now proudly dismisses?

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Ottawa ? Ottawa is making it a green Christmas for 4,000 people ? it plans to
stay thousands of charges of pot possession as a result of legal battles over
medicinal marijuana.

The decision will apply to every person in Canada charged with possession of
marijuana between July 31, 2001, and Oct. 7, 2003, Justice Department
spokeswoman Pascale Boulay said yesterday.






What happens to the others charged and convicted during this time? Do they get the time back they’ve spent in jail? Do these charges get expunged from their record like they never existed? Will there be a guarantee the US will expunge that charge from their database too?

What about others that were charged on July 30th, 2001? What do we say? Ooops! Sorry, 1 day too early, you’re still a criminal?

What about today? I have no exemption, but have used for medical purposes in the past. Am I able to have a few big nuggets in my pocket? I have a charge PENDING in the courts where my only condition of release is to abstain from any non-prescription drug (besides a promise to appear).

Interesting twist? I was charged with Production of a controlled substance ONLY. No posession, no trafficking, as I grew for personal.

How many other marijuana related charges are there? Growers? Trafficking? Thoses tens of thousands are still criminals to be locked up?

These kangaroo Court happenings are getting ludicrous.

Save us Supreme Court! Freedom and human autonomy should supercede the greedy, power hungry imperialists!! Show the people of Canada they really do live in a free Country!

Peace
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#696758 - 12/09/03 08:23 AM Re: Ottawa stays pot charges in 4,000 cases [Re: escapegoat]
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The decision will apply to every person in Canada charged with possession of
marijuana between July 31, 2001, and Oct. 7, 2003, Justice Department
spokeswoman Pascale Boulay said yesterday.

The Justice Department intends to cease prosecutions




These ignorant people at Justice went on for more then two years, insisting that law abiding smokers be stolen from, beat on, and locked away.

How about all of us who were illegally discriminated against? Do we get our stolen property returned and get repaid for personal damages?


I assume this marks an end to Marc Emery's Winter of Litigation tour. He accounts for a half dozen or so of these 4000 cases, and I see this as a huge win for him.

Essentially, this validates everything the legalization movement has said over the last year or so. We all knew this was true but the authorities always denied the situation.

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We're right and we're winning!
Now to go blaze some legal marijuana!

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#696759 - 12/09/03 11:34 AM Re: Ottawa stays pot charges in 4,000 cases
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I believe that in Saskatchewan and Alberta Marc was charged under provincial statutes, not federal (these two provinces having, I think, invoked the notwithstanding clause on the federal narcotics act) so charges will proceed against him there. I could be wrong.
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#696760 - 12/09/03 07:42 PM Re: Ottawa stays pot charges in 4,000 cases [Re: Paine]
escapegoat Offline
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Huh? The notwithstanding clause has been used ONCE: Bill 101 in Quebec.
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#696761 - 12/09/03 07:55 PM Re: Ottawa stays pot charges in 4,000 cases [Re: escapegoat]
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Ah, okay, I stand corrected then. I was under the impression that Sask and AB didn't follow the federal narco act. If they do, all the better for those of us living in the People's Republic of Saskatchewan
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#696762 - 12/09/03 09:54 PM Re: Ottawa stays pot charges in 4,000 cases [Re: Paine]
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I believe that in Saskatchewan and Alberta Marc was charged under provincial statutes, not federal (these two provinces having, I think, invoked the notwithstanding clause on the federal narcotics act) so charges will proceed against him there. I could be wrong.




No, the CDSA is federal law. Because of its criminal character, the provinces cannot enact similar legislation.

Happy news though. The Alberta DOJ rep called me today to confirm that charges there are being stayed, including Marc's. They are even bringing it forward to do it before the scheduled trial date.

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#696763 - 12/09/03 11:13 PM Re: Ottawa stays pot charges in 4,000 cases
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The Alberta DOJ rep called me today to confirm that charges there are being stayed




Brian, Is a stay not simply holding the proceedings until another date, or is it actually removed from record?

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#696764 - 12/10/03 07:36 AM Re: Ottawa stays pot charges in 4,000 cases
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Quote:

Quote:

I believe that in Saskatchewan and Alberta Marc was charged under provincial statutes, not federal (these two provinces having, I think, invoked the notwithstanding clause on the federal narcotics act) so charges will proceed against him there. I could be wrong.




No, the CDSA is federal law. Because of its criminal character, the provinces cannot enact similar legislation.

Happy news though. The Alberta DOJ rep called me today to confirm that charges there are being stayed, including Marc's. They are even bringing it forward to do it before the scheduled trial date.





How is a stay happy news? For Marc it might be due to his prior arrests and status in the movement...for everyone else it is not so good...

This should not be accepted . It does nothing to clear from your police [Canada-USA] record, the charges which will appear thereon as stayed.

It does not strike from the Police files fingerprints taken nor does it return any costs related to the arrests and charges or the damages caused or the initial denials of Charter rights. What it will accomplish is that due to this record and if apprehended again you will face not a simple possession charge but instead an arbitrary charge of possession for the purposes of trafficking. That is to say they will strictly apply the definition of traffic, found within section 2 of the CDSA.

If big brother spots you or is informed that you toke your joint with fellow pot smokers or transport it or give it to another, that single joint will bring you within the statute. It is called payback time. We missed you then we won't miss you this time. Pray that you never offer someone a toke because you are equally guilty. They are doing no favour for anyone with the granting of stays.

Don't you think everyone should insist on the charges being withdrawn and compensation for the damages caused knowingly and willfully?

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