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#1359325 - 11/08/07 09:49 AM
Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How
[Re: skunkwerks420]
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Registered: 05/18/06
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I've been growing organic soil for awhile. After reading this thread a couple months ago I decided to try DWC. I built one bucket for the test, rooted a grapefruit clone into it. It's now been in 12/12 for 7 days, and it is EXPLODING with growth! I used Fox Farm grow big with some B1 for veg, and just started with a mix of Grow Big and FF Tiger Bloom for the first week of flower. I'll go to just Tiger Bloom next week, plus a splash of FF Big Bloom.
The first and most amazing thing I notice about this method is how fast it grows. It took about 8 days to show roots, then I vegged for 2 weeks after that, plus one week in 12/12, and it is already the size of my soil plants that were vegged for a month and in week 5 of flower. The fan leaves are three times the size of my soil plants. I noticed the most explosive growth in the last week since I moved it to the flower room, where I have co2. Moving it from a 175w MH to a 1000w HPS with co2 made this plant double in size in a week. AMAZING!
I like organic grown weed, I have swore by organics for a long time. This is my first hydro attempt, but i want to see if I can do organic DWC.
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#1363211 - 11/25/07 11:44 AM
Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How
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Registered: 11/23/07
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Sure, you could connect them all together and use a float switch of some sort to keep the level equal. There are commercial controller buckets out there that do what you want, with a reservoir and float switch to automate it. I imagine it would be just as effective and way cheaper to put one together yourself. As far as keeping the nutes mixed in the res, well... I think that was one of the reasons arcin wrote this post like he did- KISS. Everything here *can* be improved upon, but arcin is, as I have seen through all of my browsiing here, the Messiah of Keep It Simple. And Cheap  But yeah, I think a single airstone in the reservoir would be more than adequate to keep it thoroughly mixed, and oxygenated, at the same time.
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#1364603 - 11/30/07 09:17 PM
Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How
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#1370536 - 12/22/07 05:59 PM
Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How
[Re: Earl]
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Registered: 06/30/07
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That's similar to mine, but here are a couple caveats for anyone building a system like this:
1: It's probably not a good idea.
Don't get me wrong, I like my system. And I'll probably keep screwing with it because I like to tinker and I like things that are complex.
But the fact is that once you start recircing, you probably could have saved time and money with a good F&D system.
2: It's very vulnerable to fouling of the lines. What happened to me was a combination of poor circulation from trying to bend tubing where I really needed an elbow, excessive res temps and a few other minor mistakes. I developed pythium, which further clogged the lines.
3: Understand plumbing or spend extra on plumbing hardware to compensate. I know hydraulics. I know high pressure systems in general. I can unclog a toilet, but that's the extent of my experience with gravity flow plumbing.
I added a large pump to make sure that there would be no further flow problems. This one will pump 3000gph. At that point, the common drain line isn't going to cut it.
I had to run individual 3/4 inch lines to keep the buckets from overflowing. I did get the increased flow, but the pump also causes:
4: Heat. The pump added so much heat that my res temps went from 78f to 90f. Ok if you're making stew - not so much if you want massive snowy roots. So, off to google to find some plans for building a chiller. If you are patient enough to unbend a piece of copper tubing without breaking it, you can build a chiller for little or nothing that will cool even a large system.
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#1370540 - 12/22/07 06:07 PM
Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How
[Re: p_light420]
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Registered: 06/30/07
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I've been growing organic soil for awhile. After reading this thread a couple months ago I decided to try DWC. I built one bucket for the test, rooted a grapefruit clone into it. It's now been in 12/12 for 7 days, and it is EXPLODING with growth! I used Fox Farm grow big with some B1 for veg, and just started with a mix of Grow Big and FF Tiger Bloom for the first week of flower. I'll go to just Tiger Bloom next week, plus a splash of FF Big Bloom.
The first and most amazing thing I notice about this method is how fast it grows. It took about 8 days to show roots, then I vegged for 2 weeks after that, plus one week in 12/12, and it is already the size of my soil plants that were vegged for a month and in week 5 of flower. The fan leaves are three times the size of my soil plants. I noticed the most explosive growth in the last week since I moved it to the flower room, where I have co2. Moving it from a 175w MH to a 1000w HPS with co2 made this plant double in size in a week. AMAZING!
I like organic grown weed, I have swore by organics for a long time. This is my first hydro attempt, but i want to see if I can do organic DWC. I did organic with FF, but I'm done with that. There isn't any real benefit to organics. An element is an element and your plant doesn't know the difference. Since I went with refined nutes, I now have much less turbidity, it's cheaper, and it's a lot simpler. The FF line is great for beginners, but once you get the feel for what your plants crave (plants crave Brawndo - it's got electrolytes)then you can roll your own a bit more. I tossed my nute schedules and my plants are happier for it.
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