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#582115 - 08/01/03 10:25 AM
Re: Poll: Mushrooms VS. LSD
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Carpal Tunnel
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I really cant speek for mushies because i havent been able to try any yet. As for LSD, Acid, Ive had fairly positive experiances with it. I did notice the three times i have taken it, that i did get slightly queezy. But it really wasnt a problem. I have a fairly week stomach when dealing with pretty much everything. Ive been know to throw up alot. But i would still describe it, from my experiance as not being too bad in that department. I took microdots the first time, and blotters the second and 3rd time. EAch one i held them in my mouth and "bathed" the drug in saliva dill it pretty much dissolved. So i didnt really swallow anytying.
As for visual and auditory hallucinations ive had my share just from the 3 times i tried this stuff, but by some of the descriptions ive gotten, peple ahve experianced alot more than me. I contribute this pretty much to how clear you can keep your mind. Tripping i think, is a reaction to a "body" reaction you have while on acid. Like an emotional reaction, or (maybe) even physical stimulus. Like light makes you trip if your body reacts to it, sound, physical pressure... anythying. When i did get visuals, they were always positive. Ive never seen anythying scary, or even demonish (not that-that would be scary, but people usually think of "hell" and teh feelings that go with that when they think of demons) Things seam to jump out at me when i trip. Like when i look into trees, i can pick out faces that the overlapping leaves make. Shit like that.
The second time i took LSD i tripped alot, but they werent really visual or auditory hallucinations so much as it was just me getting completely lost in my mind and not being able to deal with it (physically). I remeber just trudging along the road with my friends, I was staring strait upwards with my eyeballs, but my head was either level, or pointed at the ground. I dont really remeber what my mind experianced so much as what my body did... that time. It was freaky when it was happening. Because it was my first real experiance with the drug. So i was trying to hold back, while my mind was just pushing forward. (this is what i think caused me to trip, the stress associated with that.) The more time that passes between me and that trip the better i think it was. At the time i was n't really sure how it had went.
The third time i tripped was such a great experiance. I cant really describe how it was in words. saying it was spiritual would be too cliche in my mind. What that is a pretty acurrate discription. In the sense that i think i've pretty much figured out how things in the physcial world basically operate. Pretty much i became aware of my mind, or soul, or qi. And with that realization came the tidal wave.
As for the body "high", i felt this mainly as i was coming up and gowing down. When i was peaking my second time (my first time all it was-was a 3-4 hour body high) I felt the body high pretty much when i wanted too. I could feel the energy coursing through my nerves. And i could control where it would go through identifying the end point and tracing a path from the base of my brain to the spot. That produced cool body sensations. I found main nerve points in my body through tracing random pulses of enbergy. Like in the groin, the big toes, the index fingers and thumbs. What started me on thinking about all this was, i was laying down in my boxers watching tv. Sweating. It was hot out. I was tapping various beats on my chest with my fingers and as i began to tap along the collar bone, (going from the center out to the shoulders) i found a lump of muscle, just below the collar bone, as if protected by it, that when i tapped, even lightly, would produce a dull pain. This i concluded was a nerve surrounded by a muscle, hidden under the bone. It was so close to the base of my spine, that just by lightly massaging it, i could feel the connectin between it and my spine/brain. (this is easy to feel when you peaking on acid)
There was so much to my 3 trips, it hurts my brain, thinking about all the space it would take up, and the time it would take to write it all down. I guess this is why we live for 70+ years huh.
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#582117 - 08/01/03 07:31 PM
Re: Poll: Mushrooms VS. LSD
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#582118 - 08/01/03 07:33 PM
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what would you like to know about acid? Ive become pretty familiar with the 20+ hours ive spent experiancing it. The only thing i can say is, an LSD experiance will be bad if you think it is going to be. Tripping and getting high are so much different you really cant explain it in words. Triping is all about emotions and stress. Whether its real (physcial) stress, or imagined. They both have the same effect on the body. If you feel good and right with the world those feelings will carry over into the experiance. What you really need to know, is, while on drugs like LSD, your senses are so much more perceptive. Things you wont even know are there when sober jump out at you while high. This can cause you to react if you get scared at what you experiance. This will cause you to trip badly. The thing i always keep in the bak of my mind is. LSD is physically harmless and the trip always comes to an end. No matter how bad it gets, when you wake up after its all over. You'll be sober again.
Humans were meant to consume LSD, just like were meant to consume mushies and cannabis. Breathing is just as natural as tripping.
and A flashback is just a free trip  SO WHERE THE HELL ARE MINE!!
Edited by Splynncryth (08/01/03 07:38 PM)
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#582119 - 08/01/03 07:48 PM
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i read in your profile that your 16. Now im not gonna say your a child and shouldn;t use things like "drugs" when your a child, that would be stupid. What i will caution at is this. The way kids are treated in America, when there 16 is in complete contradiction to the LSD experiance. Its all about being free and at peace with yourself and the world. (-----zen-----). Being 16, your subject to many harsh things that even at 20 im not subject too. Highschool is hard, peer groups are hard to deal with. Family is hard to deal with. Everything seams overwhelming. All of this ispressed onto you by the government, to ruin things like an LSD experiance. if your the slightest bit introverted, and the slightest bit unsure of yourself this can and will carry over into your trip. Just remeber that all this shit on the physical world is petty in the "eyes" of the qi you will be contacting while tripping. The aquwardness you might feel because you "dont fit in" is a hallucination in itself, when considering that fitting in is a manufactured want. Wants detract from the trip. I would study some buddhist pilosophy to better unbderstand how to control your mind while tripping. wanting to be desired, to fit in, to be "cool", to be secure, to be alive (and not dead). All wants. They all have there little emotions attached to them, and these emotions can make your trip great, or terrible. Depending on how you react to your reactions. one of the biggest things when people trip, is they become scared there going to die. This is silly. if you use LSD as the tool it is you will realize that death is liberation from the physical world and nothing to worry about. Now im not saying you should go commit suicide or anything to be in a btter place. All im sayin is, that when the time comes, you'll be taken care of. So its really nothing to worry about. In short. Life is grand. Life is meant to be enjoyed. All of the stress in the world doesnt really need to be there, because all of this stress is man made. Knwoing this and realizing this can help your trip considerably. Think "happy thoughts" and you will be able to fly.
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#582120 - 08/03/03 05:07 PM
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yeah im 16 but i dont think it will have much to do with me i dont really care what will happen just that i could get caught and that is the only thing that i dont like about doing drugs...my parents dont care about me smoking pot and ive consumed alchohol with them so i dont think that they will care much if they catch me just that the cops would...my friend said that he tried them and that he didnt have a bad trip...so i dont think i would but thanx for the info!! 
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#582121 - 08/03/03 07:16 PM
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thats cool man. Be careful when you consume.
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#582124 - 08/04/03 02:34 AM
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not having done LSD/shrooms, i find it so hard to believe stuff would look like a game.
dont get me wrong, i aint calling u a liar, its just that it sounds too good to be true!
so how real is it?
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#582125 - 08/04/03 08:02 AM
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i havent done any studying of aything really since my highschool days. all the insight i now possess is directly realted to my acid experiances. This is why i label them as so wonderful (and this is why i label the drug, LSD so wonderful). It really does open up your mind, and imagination. Anything and everything is within the realm of possibility. No two people will trip exactly the same, because everyone has a different mindset. And this is what its all about. How you react, and think, and react to those thoughs etc... One simple thing can cause a "cascade" of activity. I mention the buddhist philosophies and such, because the buddha had/has a really good idea for clearing your mind. How he stated that wants lead to suffering, and all your wants are manufactured. This detracts from the
-----zen---- state of being. If your fed, waterted and out from extreme temp you should have nothing to need, everything else is a want. and all wants are created by a person, not needed so to speak. I think it was the buddhas' idea that once you truly cleared your mind of all manufactred wants you are free to "think" and do nothing but think. Its great.
Reaching -----zen----- while tripping was orgasmic. It is the most amazing thing i have ever experianced. Completely trounces my first sexual experiance as the thing i will always remeber.
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#582126 - 08/05/03 12:17 AM
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Quote:
This detracts from the
-----zen---- state of being. If your fed, waterted and out from extreme temp you should have nothing to need, everything else is a want. and all wants are created by a person, not needed so to speak. I think it was the buddhas' idea that once you truly cleared your mind of all manufactred wants you are free to "think" and do nothing but think. Its great.
Reaching -----zen----- while tripping was orgasmic. It is the most amazing thing i have ever experianced. Completely trounces my first sexual experiance as the thing i will always remeber.
man you are super smart your like god!!...lol...anyways (im stoned right now)but i think that is great info!!
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#582127 - 08/05/03 10:02 AM
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Carpal Tunnel
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everyone and everything is god. You just need to realize it.
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#582128 - 08/05/03 12:59 PM
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Mushrooms by far.
Great visuals and awesome "trip".
Plus shrooms doesn't have the nasty side-effects like LSD has.
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#582129 - 08/05/03 06:14 PM
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LSD has no bad sideffects. i cant speak for mushies because i havent experianced them. But from my expriances with LSD i have known no noticable bad effects. Other than those created in my mind. (which is what the drug is all about, becoming aware of your mind.with this awareness, even your thoghts can seam real. and who knows, maybe on some unknown demension, your thoughts are god, and everything you think actually happens, this is pretty far out though, when i consider how little i "really know")
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#582131 - 08/06/03 09:47 AM
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everything jumps out at you. things become 3d because thats how your really supposed to see things. Your eyes are literally opened (your pupils get huge). When on lsd your senses are running wide open. every stimulus, when compared to the same thing when sober, is greatly amped. Is not something new just unfamiliar.
Remeber on acid your being given a glimpse into what life is going to be like very very soon. This is how humans are supposed to function, the wool has just been pulled over our eyes.
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#582133 - 08/07/03 03:01 PM
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Carpal Tunnel
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you should read timothy leary's writings. Im half way through a book called "the politics of exstasy".I go to my library about every other day to read some of it. Its very eye openeing.
Do some research online. Look through erowid.org. Theres a wealth of info on acidand mushies out there. The only thing i urge though, is that you read everything from a very objective point of view. Everything anyone is ever going to say about things like LSD, are personal experiances. Defined by the individual.
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#582135 - 08/07/03 10:07 PM
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Splynncryth, I have great respect for your ideas and outlooks as you've expressed in this thread. I have been looking for a more 'spiritual' experience as opposed to 'high' experience with drugs and have found that the only way that this seems possiable is by relaxing and clearing my psyche. Lately I've also been attempting to ‘trip’ with no drugs... just sitting down in a dim room attempting to clear my mind and leave my body. So far I've had some brief successful moments of lucid trips; I've been quite excited about this. I just had to share this, as like I said... I'm pretty stoked. Thanks for listening -Kevin
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#582136 - 08/07/03 11:26 PM
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Carpal Tunnel
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its a great feeling. Knowing that your on to something and striving to get it right. I've been waiting a long time to have happen whats happening now. I have success with lucid dream like states, the times i go to bed and wake up. If i concentrate on my thoughts and shit, and try and stay centered, while falling to sleep. (assuming i just dont pass right out), i can get some brief periods of lucid"ness". That high feeling you get, when you smoke "ordinary" weed, is you becoming more aware of your "qi" (at least i think) Concentrating on that high feeling is pretty cool, ive found it as a convienent spring board to balance. (so to speak). One thing that i do when trying things out in my mind, is i like to concentrate, on concentrating. You know when your bcoming introverted and you try to clear your mind. Well that pressure you feel, that energy that seams to be there. (that feeling you get from concentrating on anything) I like to conentrate on that. To me its sorta like a loop, when you concentrate and that sparse feeling pops up and you focus on that. And when you focus more intently, more of that feeling creeps up, focus more on it, more feeling...etc. I wish i could express in words what i feel when i do things, and how i make myself feel them. Language is such a barrier its disgusting.
Look to nature for all of your answers. Its the ultimate teacher. I dontknow if you have any pets, but my cat is a cool mental test subject.
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#582137 - 08/09/03 01:10 PM
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Ive done acid 3 times and mushrooms probably close to a dozen now.
The first time I took acid I did 3 hits and that was too much for a first experience. I wouldn't say it was a bad experience, it was interesting, but 3 hits were so overwelming really. I found that I didn't feel right physically and mentally for almost 2 days after the main trip. The next two times I did just 1 hit each time. Once at the Dead and once at Phish. The dose at the dead was just right with very little negative after effects, but the dose at Phish didn't do much for me really except a body buzz almost. All of these doses were from the same batch that made its way back to my neck of the woods after Bonnaroo.
Mushrooms are alot of fun, and easier to handle then acid in my opinion. I also feel alot safer eating mushrooms knowing that this came from the earth and is natural. Whereas real acid, which im not sure even exists anymore, is processed from a mold that grows on rye.
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#582139 - 08/09/03 01:23 PM
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Im not a scientist or even super experienced with drugs, but I do know that anything even semisynthetic is alot worse for you in the long run then something totally natural.
That being said I still think LSD is fun, just to be used with caution and on very special occasions.
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#582140 - 08/09/03 02:37 PM
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i gotta admit i cant really say concretly whether anything "synthetic" is just plain bad for you because it is synthetic. (im not labeling acid as "synthetic mind you, i just think you are/were, so this is the term i responded too) the characteristic of being "synthetic" might be harmful in and of itself. But i doubt it. all the material that goes into making anything is givin to us by the earth. I think it is well within the possibility that sythetic things can be 100% beneficial. (things as in consumed things, that act on the body).
I have a funny feeling that when dealing with things like LSD; how harmful it is, is entirely dependent on how harmful you make it. Being human made is just like being earth made. Its just that the process is different.
and yes. having said all of this acid is indeed fun. but of course, everything in moderation including moderation.
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#582142 - 08/10/03 01:58 AM
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um i dont think you can control how harmful it is man just by thinking that its not harmful. you are creating a false sense of security for yourself, and that isnt healthy. No matter what you think there is only gonna be one truth, and im pretty sure that that truth is LSD is very not good for you, but used in extreme moderation, has very little permanent effects.
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#582143 - 08/10/03 10:47 AM
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hahahahahahahahahahaha. When dealing with things like LSD (actual LSD) it is as bad as you make it. Its all about the mind man. and the mind controls the entire body. Granted you could trick yourself into thinking you could fly, but thats not the acid thats your brain getting confused about reality.
Leary took acid 300+ times and he died at the age of 75. I know kids who have spilt liters on themselves and are still around. (crazier yes... but thats because there mind couldnt handle it). When people have bad trips and such, its because of a bad reaction. you control how you react.
and if your saying that the compound itself is somehow poisinous. i mean you take such a small amount its rediculous. Literally microscopic amounts eneter your body when you want to trip. you could consume as much benzene and not really notice the efectss.
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#582144 - 08/14/03 11:56 PM
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just from all the bad media from LSD that it makes it seem bad im not sure about it and i believe what Splynncryth
has to say that how you make it is what its going to be and i know people that do acid and are fine a little weird but fine. Anyways there isnt much on mushrooms so thats why people prefer to do them cause ive never heard on the news about someone takeing shrooms and my neighbor does them and is fine he has never done acid though. So saying that i think i might just stick to shrooms. LSD is very interesting.
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#582145 - 08/17/03 06:53 PM
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if you really want to get the low down on acid talk to people who have done it. Remeber, the media that you are relying on to give you the info in 'cid is the same media that vilifies cannabis. I personally dont think its harmful. the compound itself anyway. All the harm that will ever come from it, is the harm you create. imho.
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#582147 - 09/11/03 11:29 AM
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mysterious, i didnt mean to laugh at you like that in my above post, i just re read it. dont know what i was thinking.
Im glad you had a good mushie trip man. I have a chance to score some LSA on friday. Depending on how everything goes, i might be tripping my wang doodle off come saturday early morning.  it should be interesting too. because i would consider myself to have made great strides in what ive set out to do. If anything im gonna score some THC though.
can you explain anything you might have seen or heard while on mushies? did you have any memerable hallucinations? Did you feel any cool sensations course through your body?
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#582148 - 09/11/03 06:29 PM
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Acids the shit
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#582149 - 09/15/03 03:15 AM
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No contest, mushrooms are organic, less nausea, not whipped-up in someone's kitchen, & all-around better high...now if you feel like tripping your balls off, go with the acid...my acid days ended in 1975 & haven't tripped on LSD since. Now I'll still do mushrooms anytime they're around, but no way on acid...especially the present-day acid...no fuckin' way. For 1, it must not be as strong as it was 30 yrs. ago because I'll see my nephew & his pals tripping on some kind of 'Mickey Mouse' acid or some shit and these people are still like comprehending the whole societal scene. I remember doing like 'Orange Barrel' & 'Purple Microdot', 'Windowpane', etc. & after dropping 1 or tops 2, you'd be grinning from ear-to-ear so bad your jaws ached...then don't forget the 'laughing binges' where you couldn't even look someone in the face who wasn't tripping along with you. Oh man, those were the days, I think! 
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#582150 - 09/15/03 04:59 AM
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I've got a total of >600 hours of tripping on LSD and I think I'm done with it for life. Mushies on the other hand I have less experience with at ~100 hours. Given what I'll arrogantly call 'extensive' experience, I can only say that they are VERY VERY different. My best four trips (by far) were two on mushies, one on acid, and one on both. The both experience was when I was 16 at my first Grateful Dead show. This was also my first psychedelic experience. I saw wonderful patterns and the music never stopped. It changed my life forever and took me off the path of my parents. Not a moment too soon!!! After emotionally bonding with that music, I felt like I had finally been born a human. The acid experience was after a Dead show and there I saw geometric patterns that zoomed in the most amazing way you could never ever imagine. I could animate something like that now on the computer, but to get real-time you would need hundreds of supercomputers to crunch that math. It made Pixar animation look like crude stick figures in comparison to master oil painters. Get six different makes of acid, and you'll have six different experiences. You just can't lump it into one heading of acid. There is surprisingly much variation in the trips. I know I never had that geometric type of acid again. The two awesome mushie experiences were in a redwood rainforest. Amazing visuals. Too much happiness. Bliss. Unconditional love for...... EVERYTHING! This is where I finally understood my place as a being on a living planet with countless other living beings. I was actually able to SEE the CONSTRUCTS of LANGUAGE. Emphasis intended. It becomes very easy to see where language came from, how it developed, and just how limited it is in being able to express any phychedelic experience, or anything with a seriously deep meaning. In the words of the late Bill Hicks, "Go to nature, they are sacred." About two month after one of those rainforest trips, I took my girlfriend to the same spot and lost my virginity (no trips, only herb). The psychedelic experiences are FAR more potent and meaningful in my memory than the sex. All that tripping and never a single flashback.  With all the heads I've known, nobody has *EVER* admitted to having a "flashback". This includes people who have done OVER 5000 MICS IN ONE SITTING! (that's 40-50 average strong hits) I think the flashback thing is 100% bullshit. One more acid story.... I tripped with some friends in New York a few years back at Lake Placid (the town, not the actual lake). We all dosed and then visited every bar in town for a beer or two or three. One interesting thing about acid is that it counters alcohol. We drank like a fish but I never even caught an alcohol buzz. I should have been totally blotto after that much, but it never happened. No hangover the next day either. I think adopting psychedelic rituals is the only hope "civilization" has. Without them, we are just dumb and lost. A little more Bill Hicks: (pick up any of his albums! "Rant in E minor" is fantastic) "I have never...... never...... ever...... seen a brain....... and thought it was a fucking egg. I feel cheated! What is that? Secret CIA stash?"
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#582152 - 10/02/03 04:47 AM
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No contest, mushrooms by far...acid is whipped up in someone's kitchen or acid-lab by who knows what, scratching their ass then putting some more in the batch, then pick a crab off their balls, then put some more shit in...fuck that. Give me a good old mushroom laying in cowshit anyday...cowshit isn't made in somebody's kitchen, or the mushrooms...just grab some right outta the cowshit, pick off the pieces of shit, then pop it in your mouth...yum yum, good stuff! Way better high too! 
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#582154 - 10/05/03 11:01 PM
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i plan to do acid soon, a nice sunny day soon. I enjoy mushrooms and yeah, you can find some nice internal peace with them.
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#582155 - 10/06/03 12:13 AM
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No contest, mushrooms are organic, less nausea, not whipped-up in someone's kitchen, & all-around better high...now if you feel like tripping your balls off, go with the acid...my acid days ended in 1975 & haven't tripped on LSD since. Now I'll still do mushrooms anytime they're around, but no way on acid...especially the present-day acid...no fuckin' way. For 1, it must not be as strong as it was 30 yrs. ago because I'll see my nephew & his pals tripping on some kind of 'Mickey Mouse' acid or some shit and these people are still like comprehending the whole societal scene. I remember doing like 'Orange Barrel' & 'Purple Microdot', 'Windowpane', etc. & after dropping 1 or tops 2, you'd be grinning from ear-to-ear so bad your jaws ached...then don't forget the 'laughing binges' where you couldn't even look someone in the face who wasn't tripping along with you. Oh man, those were the days, I think!
My thoughts exactly...Me and my buds did 5 hits of California sunshine all at once and man waht a fucked up time...One of my buds did the funky chicken and he ended up in the hospital...He FLIPPED HIS SHIT!!! I had flashbacks for years after..Never been the same for me since so I cut it outta my diet..
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#582156 - 10/07/03 05:32 PM
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mushies arent always grown in cow shit you know. but i still havent done acid and i dont plan on doing it anytime soon. my friend is growing shrooms in his closet and i can hardly wait to do them. we got about a full 2 ounces of them so we be fucked up for a few days. 
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#582157 - 10/11/03 08:22 PM
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Catwalkinonpoo; Hurray for your choice and I'll tell you why, LSD in the beginning, came from some lab in Switzerland by the name of Sandoz, Acid was created for the US military for crowd control, I hope you can see the military advantage too a government that used it clandestinely either pre-emptively or on the sly. California was introduced to it via the New York docks where several cases of it were misdirected. Any way, it back-fired on the US gov't and proved useless in controling thought, it actually stimulated imagination and failed too control people at its inception. But human greed and arrogance soon introduced the designer drugs and we got chaos. The psycoactive part of LSD is the lysergic acid, a mold that surfaced on black breads in the middle ages, , it formed on ergot rye. Any way, in essence it was purely a psycoactive product, for marketability designer chemist added buffers and fillers to make the product, in theory, cheaper to produce. The formula LSD's patent was held by Sandoz and the only way too legally produce it was by adulteration. Since L's inception it's been cut with sugar, manitol, stricnine,[a rat poison] other crap designed too increase its bulk and expand its profitability. Acid was extremely good in the 60s, trips were quite enlightening and quality, but now, the forces of averise and greed have muddied the whole psycadellic experience. There is no 100% pure drug unless you or someone you trust grows it. In the sixties an underground chemist named Owsly made L in a vial, completely clear, no impurities. You bought this and it was dropped on sugar cubes, blotters, domes and double dome buffer tablets. Then someone got the idea too adultrate it with food color, from there is anyones guess what the hell they put in there. The gov't enacted laws too protect the patent rights and screwed the world. There're still dedicated chemist who believe in creating pure psycotrophic drugs that don't screw over a person, but through the years free individuals are growing fewer and moneies neccisary too live and greed has proliferated. I like pot and hash, but I find L is an unwise gamble, psyllocybe was a good trip but I'm just too old for all that phalderal now. Be safe and smoke some good dubbage, leave L alone. Peace and love.
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#582158 - 10/11/03 09:05 PM
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it would be so fucking cool if everyone on earth was peaking on L all at the same time. thems would be some fireworks. i hope the koreans dose the US
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#582160 - 10/13/03 07:51 AM
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Hello; I've watched this species for many years and your arrogance has never faild too surprise me. I suppose it's because your perspective of a good"trip" is drug quantity, not quality? Pay heed to my words, please. There are several proceedures to accheiving worthy psyllocibe. (1) Make a glove box, glove boxes are equipment required in a lab too hermeticall transfer a specimen of one microbial species to another media vessel in which to grow, I suppose you could call it sample isolation. (2) gt a few pounds of Pearl Barley at your food co-op or health food store. (3) gather some psyllocibe shrooms a lot of times found at the base of oak trees after a shower, there are several ways to aquire them, get the freshest you can. (4)go to your hobby store or the scientific chemical supply house, or maybe a medical lab suppy house and score some laboratory grade B1 and Calcium, there's other trace elements but usually a crushed up daily vitamin suffices. What makes you healthy makes the mycillia healthy. Remember, measured moderate doses. (5)gather the hardware for canning, such as jars and seals and lids, turkey baster, petri dishes a long metal probe, one that won't melt when heats applied. I use stainless steel, it's good for sterilization. In all these proceedures sterilization proceedures is desirable, (6)Dry fortified rice,several pounds, you won't use it all but if ya get hungry you can eat it. (7) Get an exacto knife or even a sharp pocket knife. Remember, these will be sterilized before use so the fewer angles on the tool will make the proceedure much easier. Now the assembly of your gathered stuff too acchieve a productive, regenerating shroom farm. Hell, you might find and recover a lost species. (8)line several jars up, you will find later down the line this project can very well be expanded, but start slow, familiarize yourself with the proceedures and later incorporate your own techniques. fill them approximately 1/3, maybe less with rice. (9)measure a quarter tsp. of B1, a quarter tsp. of calcium. (10)I forgot to tell you about the bottled distilled water, add enough D. water to cook the rice. 3 parts water to 1 part rice. (11) I trust you have a hermetically sealed glove box? Simple too make; Get a cardboard box, cut the bottom off and cover with a clear glass sheet, or else cut a small six inch view hole in the bottom of the box and caulk it down. [the purpose is no air gets into the box.} (12)cut two holes in the side of the box, caulk rubber or viynal gloves in the holes {left/right} so that your hand is inside the box and you can manipulate your hands well. smoke a dube, you deserve it, but don't smoke yourself silly. (13)with in the box pin the shroom head (no stem) to the table, your petri dishes are in the box also, along with a spritz bottle full of alcohol water to allow you to disinfect. Put agar disolved in D. water into the petri dish via the turkey baster. (14)with a surgeons concentration and a delicate cut, slice the meat of the head but do not cut into the gills. Cut a small square of the head and transfer it to the agar. Cover the petri dish and repeat in another. (15)leave the culture dishes to grow snow white fluffy mycillial strands, a few days too week. (16) in the jars with rice and additives turn the lids to seal then back off a quarter turn, cook em in boiling water, a pressure cooker speeds up the cooking time. Let them cook about 20 min. till your sure they're sterile. (17)let them cool, twist those lids securely.Put them inside the glove box. take a bong hit. (18)now put your hands in the gloves in the glove box and remove the top from a jar of rice, now remove the top of the petri dish. (19)with the stainless steel probe{wiped down in alcohol and air dried}scrape or just barely touch the mycillia, now transfer over to the rice jar and touch and rub the probes tip on the rice. repeat to all the jars. (20)seal the jars tight and then back off a quarter turn. (21)put these on a warm shelf with low light at a slight angle 20-30% in the glove box mix up about a cop of D.water with mycillial strands from the petri dish. Daily, check your spawn for groth of pinners and give several spritz of the water concoction. Don't let the cap of the pinner tear and open if possible, deftly pluck and remove. Munch em if ya want but the extras put in a beaker of ethel alcohol and let it evaporate, continue to add and evaporate alcohol. The blue residue can be put in 0/0 capsuales for later consumption. Those with abilities, facilities, apperatus and patiants, Enjoy!!!! peace&love  PS if you cut down to the gills and transfer the spawn to rice you will get slime mold and garbage grow. don't fret, it's good plant mulch.
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#582161 - 10/13/03 12:26 PM
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i think i define a good trip simply by how the whole thing goes. No matter what you take, or how you take it if it makes you feel good or has any type of positive effect then the trip was "good", if not and maybe even produced negative reactions then the trip was "bad". thats how i look at things.
but i would say im a bit arrogenti am sentient afterall.
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#582162 - 10/13/03 07:56 PM
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i think i define a good trip simply by how the whole thing goes. No matter what you take, or how you take it if it makes you feel good or has any type of positive effect then the trip was "good", if not and maybe even produced negative reactions then the trip was "bad". thats how i look at things.
but i would say im a bit arrogenti am sentient afterall.
the wind blowas in the meadow and I hear a fox by the brook.
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#582164 - 10/13/03 10:50 PM
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i think if it was pure in the first place then double dipped or not, i would still spend 21 or so dollars to trip
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#582166 - 10/18/03 10:42 AM
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5$, 7$, doesnt matter to me. if your getting quality product that will produce the effect you want (the trip) i would spend that much. people say thats to expensive and they pay like a dollar for a hit, max. well i wish i was in there shoes but right now, gotta spend the extra cash. Remeber, in the old days people would walk thousands of miles (to mecca) to experaince spiritual enlightenment. all you gotta do is shell out a 20 spot and your all set.
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#582169 - 10/18/03 06:20 PM
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i dont know about anything being double dipped. dont know if it would increase potency at all. but if you dont think its strait up rat poison, give it a try. dont expect anything too amazing your first time. All i got was a nice 4 hour body stone. i had to do it a second time to trip. my suggestion, since you have a source right now. buy like 3 or 4 or 5 tabs. take one the first time, see what it does to you. then the next time you wanna try (wait like a week beforte you trip again if you try like the next day, nothings gonna happen) take like 2 or three tabs. expirment its hella fun. i think just 1 tab your first time would be good, and like i said if it aint strait up rat poison whether you take 1 or 5 or 10 hits your gonna be alright the next morning. if you do fiund yourself in a position where you have to store you L, keep it in a cool dry DARK place. light destroys the L molecules.
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#582171 - 10/23/03 10:59 PM
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I have only tried shrooms so I can't vote, but my 1 experience on mushrooms was incredible. I was at the sars concert in toronto. The one the stones headlined AC\DC was there along with thr guess who rush and all the rest of the bands and groups that were there. Anyway I ate 5 grams of only caps and spores so I was super fucked. Being in an atmosphere like a concert with 450,00 people around you is crazy to start of with nevermind when you're as fucked as I was. I was front row holding the rail on the centre of the left stage because after about 1 - 1 1\2 hours after I took them (shrooms) I had trouble standing and went all wabbly (Might have been from heat + other drugs I had in my system). I was smoking ridiculous amount of oil joints plus I ate a gram of hash. Anyway I hallucinated and had a crazy time partying in the front row with like 450,000 people standing around me.
GOOD TIMES
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#582173 - 10/25/03 04:13 PM
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if u wana do mush then just do it. dont get mad cuz ur friends dont wana do them when u do.
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#582177 - 10/26/03 06:42 PM
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hell yeah man. its great isnt it. nothing over gets boring when your tripping.
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#582178 - 10/26/03 06:52 PM
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and i mean nothing. The last time i boged, i couldn't get over how cool this deck chair that i had was.
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#582179 - 11/04/03 08:43 PM
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well i did shrooms again but i got ripped off cause i was only tripping for like 3 hours and it wasnt even that good of a trip and i had more then i had the first time. I think it was because we started hanging out with people that wernt on them and they were bangin the bass in the car and we had to listen to rap and i wanted pink floyd and they are like no its gay. also i wasnt very comfortable because it was extremely cold. Hopefully i will get them by saturday and me and 3 others are going to do them in the snow!
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#582180 - 11/04/03 08:46 PM
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dont worry
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#582181 - 11/04/03 08:46 PM
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be happy
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#582182 - 11/04/03 10:57 PM
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AHHHHHHHHHHHH! Rap? That would probably throw me right into a bad trip. I don't think I could possibly think of a worse choice of music for a mushroom trip. I enjoy Pink Floyd, trance/techno, Classical... Shit, bluegrass would be better than rap. I'd probably have hallucinations of people trying to shoot me. IMHO Peole who would even think of listening to rap while they trip shouldn't be trusted to trip with.
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#582183 - 12/04/03 10:32 PM
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lsd in pure form might compare to mushrooms, i wouldnt know though... im pretty sure all the acid ive ingested contained a plethora of other active ingredients
unfortunately, this results in no basis for a comparison.
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#582184 - 12/05/03 11:08 AM
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Mushrooms, mushrooms and more mushrooms! That's what I'm talkin about. The best place to take them is when there is noone around, like at the lake or the park, or when there are tons of people around like at a concert or a party! REALLY good LSD is so hard to find IMO, it's not worth killin all those brain cells tryin to find a good sheet of the killer stuff. The best cid I ever tried fucked me up for over 12 hours on one hit, and the hallucinations.....well un friggin real. If I had known better I would have bought the guy out. No gut rot or anything, just pure clean peaking the fuck out!! Me and my buddy got lost like 5 feet in the woods, it took us like 45 minutes to find our way out again. But like I said it's so hard to find the good stuff it's not really worth it. I'd rather just eat more shrooms if you want more intense. 4 or more g's of shrooms at a time will compare to any acid out there and without the gut rot and severe brain damage. Peace........... 
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#582185 - 12/05/03 12:02 PM
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well, im now fortunet enough to say that ive consumed both mushies and acid, and im still gonna throw my weight behind the 'cid. Its great shit! happy tripping.
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#582186 - 12/05/03 03:48 PM
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yea well ive only sampled 1 sheet of acid, and it came back to town with people that went to Bonnaroo
if i was to compare that cid with mushrooms, the cid wins hands down
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#582187 - 12/08/03 08:06 AM
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i read in your profile that your 16. Now im not gonna say your a child and shouldn;t use things like "drugs" when your a child, that would be stupid. What i will caution at is this. The way kids are treated in America, when there 16 is in complete contradiction to the LSD experiance. Its all about being free and at peace with yourself and the world.
(-----zen-----). Being 16, your subject to many harsh things that even at 20 im not subject too. Highschool is hard, peer groups are hard to deal with. Family is hard to deal with. Everything seams overwhelming.
All of this ispressed onto you by the government, to ruin things like an LSD experiance. if your the slightest bit introverted, and the slightest bit unsure of yourself this can and will carry over into your trip. Just remeber that all this shit on the physical world is petty in the "eyes" of the qi you will be contacting while tripping. The aquwardness you might feel because you "dont fit in" is a hallucination in itself, when considering that fitting in is a manufactured want.
Wants detract from the trip. I would study some buddhist pilosophy to better unbderstand how to control your mind while tripping. wanting to be desired, to fit in, to be "cool", to be secure, to be alive (and not dead). All wants. They all have there little emotions attached to them, and these emotions can make your trip great, or terrible. Depending on how you react to your reactions.
one of the biggest things when people trip, is they become scared there going to die. This is silly. if you use LSD as the tool it is you will realize that death is liberation from the physical world and nothing to worry about. Now im not saying you should go commit suicide or anything to be in a btter place. All im sayin is, that when the time comes, you'll be taken care of. So its really nothing to worry about.
In short. Life is grand. Life is meant to be enjoyed. All of the stress in the world doesnt really need to be there, because all of this stress is man made. Knwoing this and realizing this can help your trip considerably. Think "happy thoughts" and you will be able to fly.
Thats what i call speaking with great wisdom.
I only wish someone had taken the time to tell me similar stuff right before i took the plunge and totally freaked out for an 8 hour intense bad trip while i was 17.
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#582188 - 12/09/03 07:29 PM
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glad to know someone is looking out for me but when i actually get ahold of real LSD not fake shit then i will be ready. I was completly in control of my first trip on shrooms and everytime and had a completly good time. i know lsd is completly dif but im just look forward to the good times with it. when i get some i will have the setting completly set for a good mood. people dont have to know i took lsd so im not really worried about it. people take X and they seem to be even more popular and so if they dont even know i did it then its cool. im not worried about the gay government or what others have to say. they are missing out. 
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#582190 - 12/10/03 03:21 PM
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#582191 - 12/10/03 10:20 PM
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Both will bring you closer the God that shrouds us with our reality. I prefer the mellow mushroom trip to the harsh acid trip.
Mushrooms are like manna from heaven. They bring out the beauty in nature.
LSD is like a trip to hell. Or some familiar dream world.
Though, Ive only done LSD once. I wont do it again, mostly because I heard some people are chemically engineering rat poison into LSD. My stuff may have had ketamine in it, because I fell into what some people describe as a K hole.
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#582193 - 12/13/03 10:51 AM
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the absolute IGNORANCE when it comes to acid is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!
ACID does NOT cause brain damage
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#582194 - 12/16/03 05:29 AM
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Yeah your right sly. One shouldnt program the minds of others. Let them create their own experiences.
When your on LSD your world does seem more like a dream. Ive heard this from many accounts. Strange things always happen when someone trips. Stranger things occur when many people trip.
In the afterglow of a shroom trip fish dance to my brainwaves.
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#582195 - 12/16/03 11:05 PM
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i have the good fortune of living where the shroom grows, powerful ones, I know all about them now and have a big bag of dried mushroom tea, just add hot water and give it a stir fast trip food for the soul. i didn't know anything at all about them until recently, i would take a little and it was nice, i would take a little more and it was better, but something was missing, i didn't "get it". i felt underwater like the ocean was washing over me, the ceiling was shifting, shape shifting, some brightness of colors, but where was the promise of rebirth i had heard of? where was that "life changing experience" i had been told was possible? Oh my, what a sweet little seducer is the shroom! Have a little more something wispered in my ear; you can handle it. so i doubled up, but that was not enough, so i took 200 dry stems ground them into a tea cooked and drank near all of it with a mighty gulp. no, i did not feel well. one hour later i had my head so far into the bathtub my face was touching the drain, retching so vilently that my nose was pouring blood. then i began to understand, the spirit man that lives inside us all was watching impassively entirely lucid, as objective as if watching a bug on the floor while the creature which is our flesh was being scourged, mortified as surely as if on a nail bed or wearing sackcloth and ashes. i repeated "now i get it", "now i get it" over and over. i did and i do, it's not about pretty colors on the wall or geometric patterns, it's about cleansing yourself, cleansing the SELF of the self. we're all dying of to much comfort we don't fast because it's painful and so our spirit man has a nasty case of waxy yellow build up over his ears and scales over his eyes etc, we can't see or hear anymore. the mushroom is "Gods Flesh" as the Central American Indians still call it and eating of it is the true communion, not a wafer in your mouth and a few mumbled words from some boored priest. LSD? i've had pure LSD25 and the trip for me was rough and frightning, that was 35 years ago so I don't know how it would be now, i wasen't very emotionally stable then that might have had a bit to do with it. peace and love to all.
By the way my friend who heard the story and is a big Catholic said to me "it is written: there is no remission of sin without the sheding of blood" isn't that interesting. Forget about LSD, the mushroom is God's gift to all of us lonely lost souls.
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#582196 - 12/20/03 01:33 AM
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Both beautiful, why choose? I know people who have freaked on field picks and flew on insane amounts of hydroponic shrooms. I know people who have experienced gelly, not geltabs but hot off the presses-tip of the teaspoon jelly, and said it was the calmest experience they had, and people who freaked on sweet tarts made from low quality high yield bathtub, its all about setting and the person experiencing it. The end. So try both, but at the right place and time.
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#582198 - 12/20/03 10:55 AM
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I discovered myself while on shrooms. My old self perception was lost. A new one was born. I felt that same spirit man looking through my eyes. I am.
I am that I am.
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#582201 - 12/20/03 10:54 PM
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I discovered myself while on shrooms. My old self perception was lost. A new one was born. I felt that same spirit man looking through my eyes. I am.
I am that I am.
This is usually, at least philosophically, explained as the the perception of perception. It hinges on the idea that the only true awarness is the awareness of awareness. A good writer on this subject is(or was) Sartre. There's nothing more amazing than one's first real realization and experience of this fact. And I liked the way you worded it, I am that I am. well put.
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#582203 - 12/25/03 02:12 AM
Re: Poll: Mushrooms VS. LSD
[Re: Niko420]
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In the 60's I use to cap for Osley,we cap bare handed I had purple haze before jimmy did & you could sit & eat all the mushrooms you wanted in Mexico for $5.I'v done both,don't know what todays acid is like (it ALL up to the chimist)but the mushrooms couldn't come close
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#582204 - 01/03/04 11:51 PM
Re: Poll: Mushrooms VS. LSD
[Re: turtle]
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Carpal Tunnel
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turtle, I was trying to express a facet of how i think. What i was trying to say was you think your just an electrical cercit. Im saying that you are what you wanna be. If you think of your self (percieve yourself) to be an electrical curcit then thats what you are. I percieve myself to be conciousness. (or to clarify, conciousness that is aware of itself... as opposed to one that isnt.)
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#582205 - 01/04/04 08:35 AM
Re: Poll: Mushrooms VS. LSD
[Re: Splynncryth]
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Registered: 05/28/03
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Glad you finally got back to me on that one.. "know thyself" pms Turtletime
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#582206 - 01/04/04 08:36 AM
Re: Poll: Mushrooms VS. LSD
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IMHO -
The main difference between the LSD experience and that of any of the plant/fungi based entheogens is that the LSD has not been alive (recently, though I do understand that the ergoline tartrate is generally derived from a fungus) and thus has no opinion on the issue. If listened to, really, truly listened to, the plants of the gods speak in distinct voices from our own. LSD is a GREAT psychotherapy aid. EXCELLENT. No better way to peel off the layers and layers of games that we have constructed around ourselves, if we listen. Listen is silent dark surroundings. Drop a tab, wait 30 minutes, then lay down for a "nap." Let the dreams come, for it is within the dreams that we can see, feel, experience the messages that are intended for the self, the "I", the "ego." To cleanse the pathos of the self one must first face that unflinching black mirror of the interior landscape. LSD is wasted on the young. I should know, I wasted alot of LSD when I was young, and never, ever got it. I am just now sussing out some of the visions I recieved during those two years of almost constant meditation. If you find the mushrooms to be "gentler" or "kinder" you are not taking enough and are not listening enough. Shut up and listen. If you find the LSD to be "too harsh" you are obviously not "giving up the ham." I've had many people tell me "I really want to trip with you, man" and the only response I can give them is "why? Are you afraid of yourself?"
BTW, it is not that difficult to raise mushrooms in the privacy of your own home for your own personal use, and you should. Stop trading filthy war-stained cash for their sacred flesh!!!!! If you have a problem with "the legality" then you obviously don't understand the sacred nature of nature and your place within it, or the full extent of your First Amendment Rights (as a US Citizen). If you want LSD, then find the resources to make it happen. The raw materials can be had for nothing more than two months of your life and some basic research, and any biochemist willing to risk gangrene can do the final synthesis. The black market in so-called "psychedelics" is a farce and an affront to the very nature of nature and your place in it. If you want to do these things and are still under 18 and living at home, come out to your parents first, inform them, let them know that this isnt' just some "druggie phase" you are going through. Demand your Right from day one and you will never be in the Wrong.
And to address the poll, I used to prefer LSD, but now find mushrooms to be much better teachers. Salvia is gaining ground, though she can be a bit acerbic at times, and hashish is a prennial favorite.
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#582207 - 01/04/04 08:20 PM
Re: Poll: Mushrooms VS. LSD
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 01/11/02
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good post tom, but i have to comment on this
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LSD is wasted on the young.
LSD isnt wasted on anyone. even terrifying trips that make you want to kill yourself to get over them send a messege, and that messege should be studied to get whatever you want out of it. I dont think we should limit kids at all, inform them about the LSD. tell them that you can use it just to get high and for kicks, but also tell em that if they want to they can learn from it (or more specifially let the LSD open there eyes and tell them that they can glean much information from the increased perception.) If they choose just to use it for fun and arent interested in contacting themselves then so be it. As long as there not physically hurting me... To each there own even if you think its a waste.
turtle, i just got back from a cruise. Left from tampa, florida sailed to grand caymen and cozumel. 5 days of hedonism courtesy of of my dad. It was his x-mas present to me and my little brother. The only thing that got under my skin was all the damn security. Get your bag rifled through by the TSA, get your bag rifled through by the boat, get your bag rifled through by custums. Metel detectors in the airports and on the boats. Coming back to the ship in cozumel (cozumel is right next to the yucatan penninsila) there were mexican MP's with m-16's making sure no one rushed the boat. but the thing that struck me as the most invasive was the camera we had to look into as we were boarding the plane in tampa airport to fly back north. As you weaved your way through the line at the check point you came to a guy that told you to look into a camera. Right next to the eye of the camera (it was situated in a pillar so you could only see the eye) there were two lights, one on each side right at the level of the camera. One blinked red the other green. one at a time, alternating kinda. The area was well lit with cool white flourescents so i dont know what purpose the lights served. The only think i can think of is it helps it take a better picture OR the blinking lights kinda hypnotyze so they capture everones face in kinda the same state. As i walked through that area i pulled my hat real low and elongated my jawand puckerd my lips, so the camera would measure features that are different then my normal resting face. As i walked past the camera... to the metal detectors .... i saw the monitor that was hooked up to the computer that was operating the camera. As my dad stepped up behind me to the cammera i saw about 20 snapshots of his face quickly appear on the screen. That appeared in the upper right hand corner, the upper left was a box that showed a real time image of the cammera and in the lower left there was a red box that had "aquired suspects" bannered above it. It was a place, i assume that displays the messeges and warnings if the face scanning technology recognized a "bad guy" pppffffghhhhhh... but of course its all for our own good right.
That shit didnt ruin my trip though, had an awesome time. Never thought i would ever be in a place for xmas and new years (had new years on the boat, was the last night of the trip. was the biggest/best party of the 5 day trip) that is so warm. I went snorkling on both islands. the fish were cool, so was the coral. and the water was so warm. In cozumel we lounged on the beach in the national park and snorkled off there... made a day of it. In grand caymen we sorta walked around and hit different spots.
dont know why i relayed all this in this thread under this topic. Guess i said id give a report and what started off on topic slowly driffted (so sue me!!! )
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#582210 - 06/26/04 12:53 PM
Re: Poll: Mushrooms VS. LSD
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but you see the thing people totally forget when talking about organic and synthetic drugs is that many organic drugs have bad side effects as well. Coke and morphine and any other opiates come from the ground and they have their share of damage. heroine is considered sinthetic but it's only slightly altered from its natural form wich is morphine. I've only done mushrooms and they're pretty fun but my fucking head always hurts the next day dammit  .Salvia is fun too but it usually freaks me out because it comes on soooo fast. I have a friend who almost died from a cid trip once. He thought spiders were crawling out of his wrist so he started slashing at it with a knife and almost bled to death before he got to the hospital. Just from that experience Im probably not gonna do acid, even tho In my opinion its probably as safe as mushrooms I don't wanna end up like him
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#582212 - 07/08/04 12:56 AM
Re: Poll: Mushrooms VS. LSD
[Re: Niko420]
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Ganja God
Registered: 10/27/02
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Loc: Vansterdam
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i've been doing more shrooms lately than i have in years... and enjoying it alot something about spending the day in the park tripping on zoomers... seems ideal to me. disc golf, weed, beers, shrooms... it's all good  and as a bonus, people grow exotic shrooms indoors now... no need to wait till october anymore
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#582214 - 07/08/04 11:39 AM
Re: Poll: Mushrooms VS. LSD
[Re: Weedabix]
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spending the day in the park tripping on zoomers... seems ideal to me.
disc golf, weed, beers, shrooms... it's all good
Fo sho dude thats what my friends and I do. Except minus the disc golf part cause most of them cant throw a disc but we usually just play freezbee.
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#1735012 - 02/28/12 10:56 PM
Re: Poll: Mushrooms VS. LSD
[Re: sammyboy]
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Stranger
Registered: 02/28/12
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Loc: Vancouver
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As a person who has used both I feel obligated to post.
I voted on mushrooms, but because of the circumstances I was in for all of my lsd experiences I think I may be biased.
For me mushrooms felt like a more organic and natural experience. I felt more connected to the universe and the distortion of space was intense.
Acid for me felt like psychotherapy or something of that nature. Acid also lasted a bit to long for my liking.
I also have to take into account that both times I did acid I did one tab. While I did 3.5 grams of mushrooms one time, and lower doses 5 times. I think it is dependent on the setting and emotion of a trip so it's very hard for me to judge.
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