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#546277 - 08/28/03 10:11 AM Re: Make Your Own Bubblehash Kit for $37 or less,, *****
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so there you go. i have solved the riddle of the xx measurement, as well as the confusion about mesh count versus micron expression.

conclusion:
the larger the mesh number, the finer the screen.
the larger the micron opening, the more coarse the screen.
just depends on what you are measuring.
the equivalents for the xx measurements are listed above.

thank you for your time, hope this clears everything up. makes a lot more sense to me now.




Cleared up the differences, yes. Left out the most important part.....

A 25u screen = what mesh or threads per inch?

Something in the format of...
25u = ??? mesh
45u = ??? mesh
73u = ??? mesh
120u = ??? mesh
190u = ??? mesh


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a screen with a mesh number of 8 has a micron measurement of 2460, or .0968502 inches.



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a screen with a mesh number of 635 would have 635 threads per inch, and each opening would have a micron size of 20



Sorry, but I am a bit slow with the math here. how did you get 2460 from .0968502?

Is this determined by the thread thickness?

What formula did you use to get the micron size of 20 from the 635 mesh?

Thanks in advance.

B_M



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#546278 - 08/28/03 07:54 PM Re: Make Your Own Bubblehash Kit for $37 or less,,
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nice catch, monster. after reviewing my posts, i have determined that i must have gotten those numbers (635 threads per inch = 20 microns) (8 threads per inch = 2460 microns) from a pre-calculated table during my research. the thickness of the threads is surely a contributing factor in the end micron rating.

so nice catch. i forgot to give reasons for that calculation.

and as for this question of yours:
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how did you get 2460 from .0968502?





i will answer by saying that i got .0968502 inches from the micron size of 2460.
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One micron is equivalent to 0.00003937 of one inch.




so 2460microns x .00003937inches per micron = .968502 inches.

and this:
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A 25u screen = what mesh or threads per inch?

Something in the format of...
25u = ??? mesh
45u = ??? mesh
73u = ??? mesh
120u = ??? mesh
190u = ??? mesh





u means the same as micron.

maybe you could take a formula from the equivalents which i posted.

635 threads per inch = 20 microns
8 threads per inch = 2460 microns

20 divided by 635 = .031496062 (isn't that pi?)

8 = 2460
16 = 1230
32 = 615
64 = 307.5
128 = 153.75
256 = 76.875
512 = 38.4375
1024 = 19.21875

635 = 20
317.5 = 40
158.75 = 80
79.375 = 160
39.6875 = 320

these numbers don't work.

i don't know. why do you want to know thread count?

i am giving up on all this jazz. i'm gonna quit eating food for a month so that i may afford to buy the real bubblebags.

sorry, monster, i'm not much help after all.
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#546279 - 08/28/03 08:27 PM Re: Make Your Own Bubblehash Kit for $37 or less,,
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i don't know. why do you want to know thread count?




Welp, the origional poster could only get the mesh info, not the micron info. From scouring the web, I found a few places that sell silk screen, but they only list the mesh. I was hoping maybe to get a "conversion" thingy going for those who can only find out the mesh of the screen.

We know what micron sizes work best, we just need to know the correlating mesh size for each of the different micron sizes.

Smoke on!

B_M



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#546280 - 08/29/03 11:50 PM Re: Make Your Own Bubblehash Kit for $37 or less,,
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Yeah everyone should make their own! Just like growing their own. Besides when the shit goes down, as it inevitably does, everyone who bought bags from a compromised source will get a visit from Johny Law... sorry just paranoid I guess.... Welcome to America.
Cheers!

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#546281 - 08/30/03 01:40 AM Re: Make Your Own Bubblehash Kit for $37 or less,,,,
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Damn nice post.Oil is a pain in the ass to handle.Thanks for the info.
madT

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#546282 - 08/30/03 01:24 PM Re: Make Your Own Bubblehash Kit for $37 or less,,,,
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What strain of MJ did you use for this bubblehash anyways?

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#546283 - 09/01/03 02:16 AM Re: Make Your Own Bubblehash Kit for $37 or less,,,,
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rofl

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#546284 - 09/09/03 05:13 PM Re: Make Your Own Bubblehash Kit for $37 or less,,
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Anyone found any really good places to get screen at yet? Most of the places I found were too much effort or too pricey. Pm or just reply back if anyone has found it cheaply somewhere.

In looking, I found a super-old overgrow post, which contained this info:

Glandular trichome size:
.0027"-.0047" or 70-120 µm=micron
.0018"-.0027" or 45-70 µm


Mesh sizes and their hole opening sizes:
80 mesh = .0073" or 185.42 µm=micron
110 mesh = .0059" or 149.85 µm
230 mesh = .0022" or 55.88 µm
355 mesh = .0015" or 38.1 µm

Can't vouch for it's accuracy, but I think it's right

also found this link:
http://www.faultlinegraphics.com/mesh/

not too cheap, but workable.

I have to get mine together soon, so if anyone has ideas, plz let me know asap!

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#546285 - 10/10/03 10:15 AM Re: Make Your Own Bubblehash Kit for $37 or less,,
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From looking at the pic's you guys have of your own hash and looking at the pictures of hash with the bubble bags i think their is a big diffrence the ones that are home made look very fibery and not very clean the ones that are made with the bubble bags looks like sticky carmel.. im sure the homemade ones work but i guess its how good you want your hash to be.. also you have to take in that fact that the 3 bag bubbler kit sells for over 200 bucks CAN and the 7 bag ons its even more then that.

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#546286 - 10/10/03 08:54 PM Re: Make Your Own Bubblehash Kit for $37 or less,,
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From looking at the pic's you guys have of your own hash and looking at the pictures of hash with the bubble bags i think their is a big difference the ones that are home made look very fibery and not very clean




Well golly gee whiz Zena, you are a real rocket scientist aren't you. If you had even taken the time to read the words under the pictures you would have seen it was pointed out the various screens and the corresponding grades of hash that is produced from them.




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i think their is a big difference the ones that are home made look very fibery and not very clean the ones that are made with the bubble bags looks like sticky caramel.







"You think,,,,,,,,,," is that so, well this sure looks pretty clean, caramely and sticky to me. Have you ever seen real hashish




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im sure the homemade ones work but i guess its how good you want your hash to be.




Well without trying it how do you actually know how good it is? Quite frankly it is VERY GOOD! Having been raised on smoking hash and having had lots of experience with good and bad, this homemade is just as good as any hashish I have ever smoked and all my friends agree. The blonde caramelly piece shown above is full melt, contains no green plant fibre and bound together with minimal finger pressure. It was also from the bottom of the bucket, because as pointed out my smallest screen was an 85U. This is the product that would have been trapped by the 25U and 45U screens had I had them.
As pointed out above and in other various posts the different size screens allow the tricombes to pass through and collect on the lower screens and the green plant material is filtered out to varying degrees in the larger screens above.




Hence the varying degrees and amount of greenness and graininess in each different screen produces. Have you ever seen real green Moroccan hashish? Gee I wonder where the green and graininess come from there? Maybe their screen size. There doesn't seem to be any question of the "quality" of it because its green and grainey.Yet you question the quality, just by looking at it??????????? I question the validity of your statement as I question any first hand experience you have had either making or smoking good hashish. Your credibility is severely lacking here!!!!!!

Commercially made hashish is made by two basic methods, by screening and with friction/heat (rubbing). Screened hashish is a powder that then has to be bound with something and pressed, to be formed. Green Moroccan is mixed with water, then pressed. Blonde, brown and red Lebanese is bound with honey and then pressed. Most black hashish is “rubbed” and collected with the friction and heat caused by this. It also contains plenty of plant material. The Nepalese “finger” and “ball” hash we used to get contained lot’s of fibrous materials, but was still very moist and sticky. The grain and plant material in it never detracted from the quality. Some black hashish is even bound with molasses to hold it together. So what would make you question the quality of the hashish made in this method as opposed to paying big bucks for someone to make the bags for you? Possibly ignorance, a lack of education and a real understanding of what hashish is and how it is made.

As you said in your very first post:

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Hi im a new grower and well i dont really know all that much about growing pot but i have been reading on here to find out more..




My suggestion is you start reading and learning more, not just about growing, but possibly all aspects of making bubble hash, before you comment again on something you know very little about. Enlighten you mind, before you engage your brain and put your fingers to the keyboard next time. Then maybe you can comment intelligently on something you know very little of right now.

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also you have to take in that fact that the 3 bag bubbler kit sells for over 200 bucks CAN and the 7 bag ons its even more then that.




That was the whole point of this post “Make Your Own Bubblehash Kit for $37 or less,,” what was the point of your reply????????? Not everyone has a few hundred bucks to drop on bubblebags and this offers them a cheaper alternative.





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Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and die."
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