Hi RTF
Neither, just countering the early collective classification of all policing by kmkfan - there are varieties. With a UK background I sometimes despair at the perceptions of police attitudes in the USA and Canada.

How about advice dick!

RTF let me apologize, i seen that ur reply was to Eddie and not me. I am sorry for being snappy. Had a rough day at work today. Sorry

You got caught just plead guilty take the fine and be more careful next time,instead of sitting in cars smoking weed especially in the USA.Pleading not guilty is just going to drag it out unecessarily.They caught you with the good and the deed ,pay the grand and learn from it.Just my 2 cents worth.

Thats the problem people should not plead guilty to bad and wrong laws,do not plead guilty because you should not be persecuted for a harmless non toxic herb when poison like tobbacco is ok to consume in mass quantities,DO NOT plea guilty fuck those assholes ,do not support bad laws.Do not agree to a life long criminal record ,just say no to PIGS.

Decisions, Decisions. Whats a man supposed to do?

If someone feels the law is wrong it is there duty to fight the wrong law and make a jury see the wrong law is wrong and the law should not be recognised. If you have an honest jury you will be aquited.Look at the thread in the Cannabis spirituality forum,
by excele1 called "The Supreme Defence" your rights under gods law which comes before mans law.This applies to any comenwealth country.

I copied and pasted this from the other forum everyone should read this.


Please bear with me bretheren this is my first post here. I apologise for the length but it is worth the read if you believe in God. I cannot help those who do not and have no intent to dis them or to make them feel insecure that this defense works and theirs do not. God bless all and have faith and belief in yourself first and the rest will follow!

The supreme undefeatable defense for those of faith

Hello Bretheren, I have been busy in the courts and in the word and have drawn the following conclusions and facts to the awareness of the top legal controllers in the land their reply was to immediately stay the charges against me of Posession of a created by God substance.
The law is clear for those who chose to read that supreme Book, and I do not mean the constitution although it gives credence to that law in the first line of that unlawful constitution.

Read before the first line of the constitution where the Queen says she get advise and consent fromn the Lords spiritual.

Read the first line of the Canadian Constitution.http://www.solon.org/Constitutions/Canada/English/ca_1982.html

"Whereas Canada is founded on the principles that recognise the supremacy of God and the rule of law"

Read Genesis 1:29 in your Bible. "I give you every seed bearing plant on the face of the earth and every tree that has fruit with a seed within it. They will be yours for meat"

The Queen of England is the head of the Church of England Head of the state of Canada and defender of the faith. http://www.solon.org/Constitutions/Canada/English/proc_1982.html( the proclamation of the act) In approving all the laws in Canada in principle she gets advise and consent from the Lords spiritual. The Queen in defense of the faith cannot commit blasphemy.

Read Deuteronomy 4:1-2;12:32. I do not intend to preach just provide you with startling facts as to why I am being watched by Cisis. Read section 32 of the Canadian constitution for a real shock; it does not apply to you!! That is correct it only applys to the government in all it's authority vested in God!

What law applys to you you may ask? Go back to the first line and read the rule of law.......God's law as defended by the Queen of England.

Wow eh ? Too much to swallow or just to simple to believe. Oh well take it or leave it .it still stands as the truth and the Crown Prosecutor in St Albert Stayed the charges against me because I told him what I would do! I have included the Challenge I sent to him for those of you who feel the law of man denying God's law and his gift to man is unjust and unlawful.

Hello,
My name is Edward-Jay-Robin: Belanger, you may have heard about my religious challenge of (possessing a created by God controlled substance), to the crown prosecutor here in Alberta Canada. I am asking for the message to be amplified and spread in these the final days of the year of the jubilee.

The Queen in all commonweath countries is the defender of the faith head of the church of England and head of the state. She is exactly like the biblical figure Melchizadek who was high preist and King in one body. The constitutions of the commonwealth countries all start offf saying the Queen got advise and consent from the Lords Spiritual and the preamble says God is Supeme and the rule of law.

Now the Queen as head of the church and defender of the faith cannot commit blasphemy in saying mans law is precedential and supercedent to Gods law as the command of Deuteronomy
4:1-2;12:32 to not add to or take away from Gods law is clear.

The Bible is in every court room in the commonweath and the court if asked will recognise it. The judges,prosecutors and officers of the court and police all swore an oath of allegiance to the defender of the faith and to uphold the law of Canada the constitution, inclusive of the preamble. I then ask the court to recognise the supremacy of God, if they say yes I ask does the court recognise the holy scriptures? I then recite for evidence Genesis 1: 29 and ask the Court if it recognises this as God's gift to man? They must reply yes or call God a liar. When they do I ask where did the court got the authority to take away God's gift. That is the end of the case and judge retires in awe.

They knew what was comming to their court room so they wisely decided to stay the charges against me (will fax documents to prove if requested) as this would recieve massive media coverage that would destroy the plan to legalise for medicinal purposes as you would need no permit for religious use and it could not be taxed.

There are many tokers that do not like the idea of the holy herb being free to grow and consume on religious grounds as it cut's in on their potential market place. To bad for them as God did give this as a gift and they cannot tell one of faith that it is illegal to grow use and distribute. That would be blasphemy,and they have been dong that since Henry Ford wanted to build his cars with it and as a result it was decared illegal.

I told the Attorney General of Canada if they proceeded they the judges and prosecution would be commiting treason as they will all stubbornly refuse to recognise the supremacy of God thereby violating their oath to uphold the law and to the defender of the faith effecting zero jurisdiction and are in fact defacto government attempting to run a private court outside the law. I have on four separate occasions been in the court stood and declared that the judge and prosecutor are commiting treason when they proceed against someone without jurisdiction or permission invoked by the recognition of God as Supreme. Section 32 of the Canadian Constitution, clearly in easy to understand english, says the Charter of rights and freedoms does not apply to the people of Canada but rather to the Government exclusively in it's authority vested in God as the preamble(first line) displays. I am not nor are the peopleof this land the government, so what is our law if it does not apply to us? Read the preamble first line as it tells you the rule of law,God's law not mans law.

Her majesty the Queen is the Head of the church of England defender of the faith the constitutons of the commonwealth Say God is supreme and in Canada the rule of law.is most definately God's as to say otherwise is blasphemy
This was sent to a Crown Prosecutor on November13 for a Challenge on December4th2000A.D.

Please distribute as widely as your time will permit or consider doing a story. The truth must be revealed about the legal industry of putting people in jail and claiming them as criminals for using one of God’s gifts. I will take this all the way to the supreme court and the privy council of Canada if need be. It will cost me zero as I will apply in forma pauperis that will be accepted according to Supreme court rules.

I will then if need arises go the international court in the Haugue to again expose the treason and lies. You are guaranteed the right to worship God as you wish failing harming anyone. This must not be left unchallenged for it is dark forces not of God that are at work here. Those that would attempt to says Gods gift is dangerous are misguided, wrong, corrupted, and in commission of a treasoness act. They in this malicious action attempt to overthrow the rule of Government. God’s government.

To: Crown Counsel Mr. Von Myers November 14 2000 A.D.

St Albert Court

Fax:780- 459-5088 Constitutional Challenge notice

From: Minister of God Edward-Jay-Robin: Belanger

Tel/Fax:780-967-3915

Re: Charges of Possession of a controlled herb created by God substance ie. Religious sacramental marijuana a non criminal civil violation(Queen vs. Hauser BC SCR.1979)


You are in violation of your Supreme law of Canada in preamble and section 32 invoking the application of the charter law upon you, not me, as I am a registered Minister of God and am following the Biblical theistic dictate and gift of Genesis 1:29 and Deuteronomy Chapter 4:1-2; Chapter 7:-;Chapter 8-;Chapter9-;Chapter10;11;12;13;14;Etc. This is God’s book of laws, laws that apply to me as the preamble so subliminally puts. If the Queen with the advise of the Lords Spiritual says God is Supreme and the rule of law, then you, or any other Crown allegiant, that says mans rule code and regulations take precedent over Gods rule are in breach of their oath of allegiance to the Defender of the faith acting in a seditious manner contrary to the royal style as clearly defined in the Queens act the statute of Westminister that applies to you as agent and representative of the Crown, directly, and making a blasphemic statement.

I as a minister of a registered Church disavow any Corporate Status and that any bonafide contract exists between myself and the Crown or the Government of Canada. I am a Creation of God and Challenge you and all the Justice ministers of Canada constitutionally to prove otherwise or that you have authority direct from God that says you have jurisdiction over me or that you can take away God’s gift, or tell me how to worship God, when God’s rule of law has not been violated.

The Defender of the faith as Gods representative acknowledges the Supremacy of God. I ask you as the representative of the Defender of the faith do you recognise God as supreme? Do you recognise Gods scriptural word as the rule of law? Do you know what Blasphemy is?

Would you as the Crowns counsel come before another Crown allegiant, a judge, encouraging and advocating Blasphemy? Blasphemy is stating that mans law is precedential and supercedent to Gods law. Do you know the definition of sedition and treason? These are some of the issues that I intend to challenge with regards to jurisdiction.

Let us be reasonable, Marijuana is Gods gift to man. It has never been proven that anyone is damaged by using it. The Australian Government’s two year study exposed by Foip at the request of the CBC said that drivers that use Marijuana are actually better drivers than sober drivers. They shelved that study for obvious reasons. No one has ever made a formal complaint or filed an information they were harmed by the use of marijuana. I ask you what is the purpose of an unconstitutional law? The courts have told the Federal Justice minister that this archaic repressive dictate has no force or affect and to revise the law to apply constitutionally.

I have heard, through, albeit rumours from more than one source, that some Crown prosecutors use Cocaine. Will you submit to an urinalysis? Will the possible use of this drug influence your ability to properly represent the Crown in a matter of theistic jurisdiction? These questions have no intent to defame you or discredit you anymore than a man hiring a worker that he has heard is an alcoholic. He has the right to ask and you have the right to reply in denial or in tacit consent say nothing and admit the fact by failure to rebut. Will you deny or fail to issue recognition of the Supremacy of God and will this denial or failure on your part influence the record and your jurisdiction so as to make you just a man with some words of no force or effect? Can an atheist or a Man or woman of contrary religion participate in the religious prosecution and adjudication of a Christian using one of God’s gifts as his right and religious practice and belief ? Would this represent a conflict of interest if so addressed as a concern? Can an allegiant to the defender of the faith and servant of the Crown deny the supremacy of God when asked to do so? How can God reign as supreme and his rule of law if that is possible? Can a man dictate that God’s gifts are illegal without committing blasphemy? Can you prove that God gave you or anyone else permission to take away his gift to his creations of men and women? Did the King draft the statute of Westminister to protect the Royal style in particle. Is being head of the church of England part of the Royal style? For how many centuries?

Please do not dismiss this case or withdraw the charges. I intend to set the record straight with these questions and if you attempt to thwart my efforts this is called obstruction of Justice by you! And I will press forward with an information against you! Remember your allegiance and ask yourself what the Queen would say. If you fumble this case she will not be amused!

You are hereby ordered and relinquished of permission, as you never had it, to use my name in any other form than what appears above. I will not answer to any other name and will press for Fraud Charges if you violate my dictate and my unalienable right to my name. The Federal Treasury board, that has authority over you, has a document called the "Canadian Style" You may be interested to note that it is authoritative over all federal departments as a format for communication in all forms and is respected internationally as an authority for grammar and punctuation. It clearly says you shall use upper lower case for a name inclusive of indicated punctuation and that an all capital name is reserved for a department of defence operation as in SILENT DEFENDER. There are other federal documents that state that a corporate name will be printed in all capitals. Can you prove I am a Corporation when I state I am God Allegiant? Is there a signature on a valid contract that says I am a corporation? Are you aware Judge Spevakow violated 606 of his Criminal code when he himself entered the not guilty plea for me rather than directing the Clerk of the court to do so. This is supported by the transcript record.

Will you deliver, poste haste, a full unedited bill of particulars according to your recognised case of Stinchcombe? This has never happened as the records of the other attending officers were not made available to me.

CC: Reverend’s Walter Tucker and Michael Baldasaro of The Assembly of the Universe The Honourable Anne Mclellan M.P. Minister of Justice, Defender of the faith

The Solicitor General of Canada Lawrence MacAuly, Defender of the faith

Her Excellency the Governor General of Canada Adrianne Clarkson, Defender of the faith Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II Defender of the faith.

The Honourable Dave Hancock Justice Minister Defender of the faith

Sincerely in Christian allegiance and love of all God’s creation,

Edward-Jay-Robin: Belanger 1-780-967-3915

Subject: God The Queen,the servant and Holy smoke


Dear Allan Rock Dec1.2000A.D.
Did you swear an oath of allegiance to her majesty the Queen. Will you step in yourself soon, as the judge and counsel for the Crown could well be charged with treason by their procession with out jurisdiction.

You have charged a minster of God with possesion of a sacramental herb a gift of God.
That act is not only blasphemic in proportions but unlawful and discriminatory on religious grounds.

Would You dare tell me how to worship God?

Will you acknowledge your error?

Will you fail to acknowledge the Supremacy of God when asked as an allegiant to her majesty the Queen defender of the faith. Will you violate your oath to be allegiant to the defender of the faith head of the Church of England. Do You deny God as Supreme? Will I recognise the jurisdiction of anyone that is not allegiant to God via the Queen? Can I be forced to without it being an act of treason?

Would you commit blasphemy in stating that one of Gods gifts to man is illegal?Genesis 1:29

Would you commit further blasphemy as a servant of God via her majesty in superceding and precedenting mans law to Gods and saying mans law is superior and mandatory? Deuteronomy 4:1-2; 12:32

Would you, as a servant of her majesty, dare challenge the Royal Style and the Head of the Church of England, as the Queens father insisted not happen in 1931, in the Statute of Westminister?

Would you call God a liar and commit further blasphemy?

Would you commit treason in overthrowing her majesty's Government that was given in Gods consent to her majesty? Romans13. Introduction Canadian Constitution.

Would you compell me to worship and partake in your Godless laws? Romans 16:17-20

Have I given anyone consent to proceed against me in fraud or change my name in the all capital fiction of attached to an AKA.?

Has ther ever been valid bonifide proof that the holy annointing oil of the old testament for the annointing of Kings and preists contained kanehbosm(Hebrew for cannibus)Sweet smelling cane Exodus 30:23 New King James Version Her Majesty's Bible.

Was Jesus the annointed one? The Holy oil was used to annoint Kings!

Is cannibus seed the most perfect food of God's creational gift to man?

Is the oil of the seed the most perfect lubricant for engines and body?

Doe the fibre make the most perfect clothing and textiles?

Will the use of this plant for building products and paper save our forests the lungs of the planet?
Did Henry Ford Plan to build and run his cars with the products of this plant?

Did Randolph Hearst, Dupont Chemicals, the Cotton industry the petroleum industry, the metal industry, the pharmacuetical industry;the medical industry;The rubber industry,The lumber industry and the criminal justice system industry have anything to gain by lobbying Congress in 1936 to institute the illegalityof this sacred chosen plant of God that Mr. Ford wished to utilize?

Can you produce a damaged party or witness of such damage?

Did Hitler use this plant in his war machine because of it's superior nature. Is it's fibre as strong as steel. Is its medicinal quality well established historically? Does the Canadian judicial system make money out of keeping it illegal? Are you participating in this religious and unconstitutional discrimination and persecution?

From Minister of God Edward-Jay-Robin: Belanger

I hope you realise the brevity and precarious position this puts you in. You can come out of this as sweet smelling cane or as Hemlock. You must decide if you bear allegiance to God through her Majesty or violate your oath to not only God but to uphold his law. The constitution of Canada you swore to enforce and uphold is Precedentially and absolutely Gods law as supreme as the preamble so aptly puts. Remember to bite your tongue when you habitually wish to apply mans law against me the man creation of God. Will you respect this knowledge ? Hosea 4:6

In love of Christ and on Guard of the faith eternal.

Your servant in the Lord


Edward-Jay-Robin: Belanger
Sock it to them bretheren, in defence of the faith Love and blessings, your servant of the Lord faithfull and discreet slave

Brother Edward
P.S. I will speak for all who ask to whereever. I only Charge for Meals , accomodation and transportation in advance. This allows me to be there for you as I am unemployed in the secular field. 1-780-967-3915


Edward-Jay

Edward-Jay-Robin: Belanger

my 2 cents..........plead not guilty.........push it as far as you can, jury trial if possible, then wait for them to come with a plea, tell them you will plead guilty to disorderly conduct, but you dont want the stigma of a drug conviction to haunt you the rest of your life--ie getting any federal aid for post secondary education. They are not going to be willing to let you off completely, but as long as they get the moneys they desire, they will be more understanding of your wishes to not screw yourself at this time in your life.........also helps if you are not already known by the cops--prior record....

PufferPhish, i really like your idea. I am currently applying to a college, and i am lucky that i can send my application before my court date. They ask on the app if u have a criminal record. I am able to say no b/c i dont have to go to court till April 23, that will be the determining factor of my record. So thank you i appreciate your input.