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#1751274 - 08/17/12 11:12 AM Re: How-Congress-Failed-To-Protect-Our-Economy-Obama-B [Re: OCNORML]
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One question if the ARABS won this land from the jews by conquest how is it that the jews winning it back and keeping it is any different?

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#1751279 - 08/17/12 11:32 AM Re: How-Congress-Failed-To-Protect-Our-Economy-Obama-B [Re: topcat1666]
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they didnt the british empire did and it was given to them as apology for the nazis atrocities. Except, it wasnt theirs to give away, and if you were going to give them ANYPLACe, why not GERMANY? Oh yeah, cuz that was split up by the Soviets and US.
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#1751281 - 08/17/12 12:54 PM Re: How-Congress-Failed-To-Protect-Our-Economy-Obama-B [Re: OCNORML]
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Originally Posted By: OCNORML
Source?

Yes, my bad.
Originally Posted By: Mr Hand
A common misperception is that the Jews were forced into the diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 A.D. and then, 1,800 years later, suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years. A national language and a distinct civilization have been maintained.

The Jewish people base their claim to the land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham; 2) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 3) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people and 4) the territory was captured in defensive wars.

The term "Palestine" is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what is now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century A.D., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Arabic word "Filastin" is derived from this Latin name.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/The_Jewish_Claim_To_The_Land_Of_Israel.html

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#1751282 - 08/17/12 12:56 PM Re: How-Congress-Failed-To-Protect-Our-Economy-Obama-B [Re: Mr Hand]
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Well I was hoping you had an unbiased source. Like mine.

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#1751284 - 08/17/12 01:05 PM Re: How-Congress-Failed-To-Protect-Our-Economy-Obama-B [Re: Sticky_Icky]
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Originally Posted By: Sticky_Icky
Well I was hoping you had an unbiased source. Like mine.

No, I only have fact and history to offer. I would point to the Bible but you are probably on the wrong side of that too.

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#1751310 - 08/17/12 05:54 PM Re: How-Congress-Failed-To-Protect-Our-Economy-Obama-B [Re: Mr Hand]
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I'm on the right side of god and he told me, the bible doesn't make you one of mine, good acts do. Following the ten commandments. You know, Love god above all others, no false idols, don't commit murder, theft or lust.. How are you doing with that list?

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#1751333 - 08/17/12 10:49 PM Re: How-Congress-Failed-To-Protect-Our-Economy-Obama-B [Re: YouMadBro?]
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Get ready Ron, this is going to get ugly!
'Tumour' of Israel will soon be destroyed: Ahmadinejad


Israel protest in Tehran on Friday that the Jewish state was a "cancerous tumour" that will soon be excised, drawing Western rebukes.

Washington said Ahmadinejad's statements were "reprehensible", while Paris viewed them as "outrageous."

Ahmadinejad's diatribe against Israel in his Quds (Jerusalem) Day address was the latest in a long line to have drawn criticism from Western governments.

"The Zionist regime and the Zionists are a cancerous tumour," he said.

"The nations of the region will soon finish off the usurper Zionists in the Palestinian land.... A new Middle East will definitely be formed. With the grace of God and help of the nations, in the new Middle East there will be no trace of the Americans and Zionists," he said.

The diatribe took place amid heightened tensions between Israel and Iran over Tehran's controversial nuclear programme.

The Jewish state has in recent weeks intensified its threats to possibly bomb Iran's nuclear facilities to prevent it having the capability to produce atomic weapons.

Iran, which is suffering under severe Western sanctions, denies its nuclear programme is anything but peaceful. Its military has warned it will destroy Israel if it attacks.

"They (the Israelis) know very well they don't have the ability" to successfully attack Iran, foreign ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast was quoted as saying by the ISNA news agency.

"If they make a mistake, our nation's reaction will lead to the end of the Zionist regime," he said.

State television showed crowds marching under blazing sunshine in Tehran and other Iranian cities to mark Quds Days, an annual commemoration launched by the founder of the Islamic republic, the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, just after the 1979 revolution that brought him to power.

Demonstrators held up Palestinian flags and pictures of Khomeini's successor as Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and banners reading "Death to Israel" and "Death to America."

The head of Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guards, General Mohammad Ali Jafari, told the Fars news agency as he attended the Tehran rally that "the Iranian nation has always been at the forefront of the (regional anti-Israeli) resistance in showing its animosity with Israel."

He added that Iran intended to maintain that virulent stance.

Ahmadinejad, in his speech, claimed that "Zionists" triggered World Wars I and II, and had "taken control over world affairs since the moment they became dominant over the US government."

US National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told AFP that Ahmadinejad's comments were "hateful and divisive."

"We strongly condemn the latest series of offensive and reprehensible comments by senior Iranian officials that are aimed at Israel," Vietor said.

"The entire international community should condemn this hateful and divisive rhetoric."

French deputy foreign ministry spokesman Vincent Floreani hit out at the "latest provocations" from the Iranian president.

"We firmly condemn these outrageous and totally unacceptable statements and we remind (Iran) that we would never allow the right of Israel to live in peace to be called into question," he said.

Ahmadinejad's past broadsides against the Jewish state, and his denial that the Holocaust occurred, have earned him opprobrium from Western and other nations, and walkouts during his addresses to the UN General Assembly.

Israel has been employing its own invective against Iran and its leaders, invoking the image of Hitler and the Nazis on the eve of World War II and accusing Tehran of being bent on Israeli genocide.
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#1751364 - 08/18/12 09:04 AM Re: How-Congress-Failed-To-Protect-Our-Economy-Obama-B [Re: Mr Hand]
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Yeah. It's pretty ugly. Too bad it is absolutely none of our business and just a way to steal oil and land. I am not a killer of babies, nor do I condone the killing of men, women and children as happened in the Iraq war.

It's UnAmerican. But it is great fascism and Hegemony.

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#1751375 - 08/18/12 10:06 AM Re: How-Congress-Failed-To-Protect-Our-Economy-Obama-B [Re: YouMadBro?]
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Just hand trying to lead you of topic when he sees he's losing this one.

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#1751377 - 08/18/12 10:09 AM Re: How-Congress-Failed-To-Protect-Our-Economy-Obama-B [Re: YouMadBro?]
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Originally Posted By: Ron Paul 4 Prez
Yeah. It's pretty ugly. Too bad it is absolutely none of our business and just a way to steal oil and land. I am not a killer of babies, nor do I condone the killing of men, women and children as happened in the Iraq war.

It's UnAmerican. But it is great fascism and Hegemony.

Muslims openly call America Big Satan and Isrrael is Little Satan, after Israel is gone who do you think is next on the list?




Iran: Israel's existence 'insult to all humanity'
Associated Press – 13 hrs ago.. .


TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Israel's existence is an "insult to all humanity," Iran's president said Friday in one of his sharpest attacks yet against the Jewish state, as Israel openly debates whether to attack Iran over its nuclear program.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said confronting Israel is an effort to "protect the dignity of all human beings."

"The existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to all humanity," Ahmadinejad said. He was addressing worshippers at Tehran University after nationwide pro-Palestinian rallies, an annual event marking Quds (Jerusalem) Day on the last Friday of the holy month of Ramadan.

Israel considers Iran an existential threat because of its nuclear and missile programs, support for radical anti-Israel groups on its borders and repeated references by Iranian leaders to Israel's destruction. Ahmadinejad himself has repeatedly made such calls, as has Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Iran has denied allegations that it is seeking to build nuclear weapons, saying its nuclear program is peaceful and aimed at producing electricity and radioisotopes used to treat cancer patients.

Israel has been carrying on an increasingly public debate about whether to attack Iran's nuclear facilities. Israel's official position is to favor diplomatic and economic measures to persuade Iran to halt its uranium enrichment program, but Israel insists that Iran must not be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons. Israeli leaders say "all options are on the table," a clear reference to a military strike, if they determine that other measures have failed.

Iran has warned it would hit back at Israel if it is attacked, also threatening to strike at American interests in the region.

Ahmadinejad called Israel "a corrupt, anti-human organized minority group standing up to all divine values."

"Today, confronting the existence of the fabricated Zionist regime is in fact protecting the rights and dignity of all human beings," said Ahmadinejad, with a black and white scarf many Palestinians wear around his neck.

Demonstrators in Tehran set U.S. and Israeli flags on fire and chanted "Death to the U.S." and "Death to Israel" during their pro-Palestinian rally.

In Washington, National Security Council Spokesman Tommy Vietor strongly condemned the Iranian leaders comments.

"If Iranian officials are truly concerned about protecting the rights and dignity of all human beings, then Iran should stop supporting Assad's brutal assault on the Syrian people. Iran and Syria's blatant disregard for basic human rights is the real insult to humanity," Vietor said.

A spokesperson for U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said in a statement that Ban also condemned the comments and said leaders in the region should use their voices to "lower, rather than to escalate, tensions."

Iran and Israel have been bitter enemies for decades. Khamenei has called Israel a "cancerous tumor" that must be wiped out.

Tensions between Iran and Israel have intensified since 2005, when Ahmadinejad said in a speech that Israel will one day be "wiped off the map." The Iranian president has also described the Holocaust, when 6 million Jews were killed by German Nazis and their collaborators during World War II, as a "myth."


http://news.yahoo.com/iran-israels-existence-insult-humanity-093922735.html



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