I'm not sure if you're just a troll diverting from the topic. But yes energy is lost converting it. That's why electric cars are better for city smog and traffic pollution but overall the earth gets more pollution from the transmission loss from the generator. Mostly run on coal or nukes.

Yes of coarse solar power would be best for fuel and heat. But the technology isn't here. The same electricity to isolate the hydrogen from the H2O is a loss. Limited to political budgets. Same people gutting maintenance budgets to rid us of electric trollies replaced by diesel buses. Or Enron gutting the power plants in CA forcing imported power and gouged prices to the citizens. Or the sham of drill baby drill when gasoline shortages and cost are due to lack of refineries. Plenty of oil reserved, just a bottleneck turning it into gasoline. Not a problem since hemp grows about anywhere. Any amount locally required can be supplied. Not banking on traffic jams because the oil companies profit more when you're stuck in traffic.

Like the Ganjawar or the Alcohol prohibition at the end of the day only accomplishing the removal of farmers distilling their own tractor fuel. That they did before prohibition. Same Hearst Rocky propaganda selling the public as would selling reefer madness later. The Women's Christian TEMPERANCE League or Lincoln was not advocating PROHIBITION. Temperance is toning down something. Public drunks, kids and domestic violence were the topics. Not prohibition. It was swindlers greed bringing in the 18th amendment. Fill er up with Ethyl! Due to the fossil fools shelving anything in competition with their crud crap. In some far distant future the 1 second of sunshine will power the earth for a thousand years. Today the powers that be see 7 billion people as the problem. Easier for the 1% to remove most of the energy users, than put themselves out of business with alternatives.

Hemp is the best choice as far as present applications due to its versatility. Removing crude oil several different ways. Not just for biodiesel or biomass. Removing the fossil fools plastic with veggie oil would be a good start to clean up the oceans. Clothing made of OPEC polyfiber is more suitable for certain applications perhaps, lighter than canvas. But Hemp clothing has come a long way since knickers. Blends make it a good source. It is also versatile in where it grows. Hillsides prone to mudslides could serve a duel purpose. Saving the hill and then harvest some blue jeans to sell of serve the community. It bypasses Wall St many ways and that is why it is illegal since Nixon lumped it into the CSA as a schedule #1 narcotic. Not outlawed by the 1937 Marihuana Tax Act that was over turned in 1969 as unConstitutional to the 5th amendment rights of an individual. Nexxon served his masters well at the expense of the American people.

So in the meantime some places could produce 3 crops a year to replace tree clear cutting and more miles of devastating lumber roads than all of the Interstate Highways combined. Replace cotton and the 90 million pounds of Monsanto's and others abortion causing chemicals. Mostly in the so called pro life bible belt territory.



Homegrown anything removes the 15,000 gallons of crud leaking out of tankers normally, as engines, valves, flanges and bildge tend to do. Also the same machines digging coal and drilling oil, run on crud. Although I have heard they are adapting to biomass. They will not stop just because it makes us sick. It's their subsidiaries selling the drugs to treat the sickness.

As they shelved solar panels in the 80's until the 17 year patent ran out. We didn't have an alternative that is proving very clean, yet still pricey. New ideas on utilizing them, shingles, siding etc... Also happen with the billions of dollars in local profits and local jobs. Hemp Food sales grow every year, approaching a half a billion. Less carbon footprint than the chemicals. Omega 3, 6 and 9 in perfect human balance. Starving babies and illegal food. Is that America? Yeah, in the home of the Teabog ditto's blind trust of the Dick Armey. Cures and prevention remove profits. Peace doesn't sell war toys or the barrels of oil to operate them. Prohibition not only profits Koch's private prisons, or Califony's rehabilitation asylums or the random acts of stealing bodily fluids.

Thats a trillion dollar racket, and it removes fossil fool fascist competition? No brainer. With 95% of all media, programmed by 5 corporations sharing a message and agenda. Nothing personal, just business.

The Big Pharma and DEA have patents on cannabinoids. GW, Bayer and Barthwell have a sublingual spray. The Mississippi schwagg farm can grow kynd buds. Many patents and many cannabinoids will be sold by Pharmacy's. All while keeping Hemp and GanjaRx outlawed for we the people to grow and sell.

As individuals we can grow it and smoke a "reasonable" amount. Raich vs Gonzales only claimed any amount exchanged in a profit or non profit manner was considered Commerce, under the Clause enforced by the IRS. The same group accompanying the DEAth squids busting the buyers clubs. Not individuals. The only true way to stop them is to overturn the bogus Controlled Substance Act. En masse. They have thwarted every attempt to question it since Nixon. Lie cheat and stall. The IOM still sits at the HHS so the FDA won't even start testing it until they get the go ahead.

So as Obama said and what no one listens too. He not only won't bust individuals following state law. He can't. He hasn't the jurisdiction under the protection of the 10th amendment protecting the state laws on the books. The individual is protected according to the individual states laws. So whatever the state law says or doesn't say. is the law of the land. Most are MMJ laws, requiring doctors and crappy meaningless loopholes. Fees and games yokels play to fuck with the hippies. CA prop 215 has no restrictions on individuals. Anyone for any reason. No politician or city council can over ride the individual citizens protection, nor can the feds for a reasonable amount.

This precedent is already established in the IND program where the Feds grow, crush, roll, package and ship 300 joints every 25 days to 4 remaining patients. So the Feds say a reasonable amount is 12 joints a day. They also won't budget for under 100 plants. Considering half will be uprooted as males to prevent stealing potency. So a crop after pollination prevention seems reasonably 49 plants per person. I haven't done the math to see if its close to 12 joints a day. I'd say that's more than most stoners use, but it is government schwagg stems, seeds and leaves. Jeopardy question... What three things on a cannabis plant should you never smoke? Alec that would be what are the stems, seeds and leaves... Right your are. Bonus round. Does prop 215 provide for selling? What is NO. Even if it did would Feds still bust it as Commerce? What is YES. Sorta makes these initiatives trying to tax a vegetable null and void.

But then, with elections we only hear about the cost and how much each spends. Hundreds of millions. Same with initiatives. In dollars and taxes for the processors and government authorizations. What we should look it is who gets that money. Madison Ave ad agency's, Fox, MSNBCNN and the alphabet channels. Bumper stickers to the horde of lawyers. Same with wars, we "wasted" almost a trillion dollars on Lieraq or Halliburton, Dyncorps and Exxon made a huge hunk of the trillion. Who is making money on the initiatives vs those in it for the peoples benefits. The 10th amendment doesn't cover Commerce. Right or wrongly, bad law or not. Same with the lies perpetuating this god awful Ganjawar make no difference if no one questions them. The few and far between attempts are followed by years of waiting, appealing and now maybe in the future a court can decide if the DEA should have infallible power to overturn judges and science.



Buyers clubs are a public service. Common sense and safe for those without connections to growers. More expensive but more varieties. But the Feds claim jurisdiction. Individuals covered by states are legal. In states not covered individuals are not protected and states can be more draconian than the feds. Still no one is covered to exchange cannabis. Caregivers most likely assisting patients would be excluded but maybe not exempt technically by a dung worrier politician or zealot sheriff.

So Hemp to replace the imported crud, poison cotton and wasteful less cellulose trees doing so much more alive and filtering fresh water and oxygen, removing carbon dioxide. Such a waste for a few greedy barons and now international corporations with no allegiance to America. Why support them when anything they process into a product will require the same jobs. Changing raw materials will replace jobs from one field to another. But we can't afford to look at poisoning people as a job. Necessity used to be the Mother Of Invention before Zappa titled his band with it. Today it is profits and necessity be damned. The only entrepreneurs are making I phones in India or in the Hemp industry from auto plastic to waffles and whiffers. Ganjabars in vending machines? Come on, ain't that America home of the free baby?



Al Capone and Watergate were red herrings to divert the countries attention from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition.
Booze/Ethanol or Ganja//Hemp.

Great info DdC to answer the question of engery loss let's put it this way, all engery in a plant that we can remove,[fiber, oil, even burning] is stored engery. The plant took it in as sunlight and changed it to a form of stored engery now how much it stored and how easy it is to release, plus how much is lost by how we choose to release it is the main thing. Burn it and while you get lots of engery it very wasteful engery. Press it for oil and you lose some engery getting it but if you used solar or even gravity to press you have a stored engery left over.[oil] Since this engery has been prepared to have an easy release ofengery it is usable and transportable and can be profitable. The oil we pump out of the ground was plant matter[condensed sunlight] that went through a gravity press. Kinda simple but the best I can do in simple terms.