Holy Happy Days, it's Harry Houdini !!
Glad to see you back bro. Why not pick up a few CFLs ? Trust me, cost-wise these are the way to go, and you can always use them around the house if you later purchase HIDs and/or LEDs.

If you need any help with setting up a CFL grow, just ask myself or 52. Nice to see you again

Cheers

Hello Harry,

I was glad to read your post here yesterday, as it was very similar to what Ayos was asking when he started this thread. He is a newbie... a stranger actually, and this is his first post. I'm still waiting for more information from him, but am willing to help you and him both, in any way I can. A friend of DB's is a friend of mine, and I agree with his post above.

Feel free to contact me via PM and I will respond with details.

It's a pleasure meeting you and best regards, 52.

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to start a LED vs. HID vs. CFL discussion or hijack this thread.

Leds will work for flowering...if you sog only and cut the suggested footprint in half. In 3'x3' i once grew 8 oz with LED, but it took $1000 worth of lights to do it. On the up side I had no heat and ventilation costs were cut to less than $100. I have also used them for supplemental lighting with decent results. There again, to expand a 4'x4' to 5'x5' will cost over $1000 to do it properly.

Any opinions on the magnum 357 or the magnum plus?

Or is the penetrator series better?

As you can see Ayos, everybody wants to help you but you need to talk to us or this thread will become a LED vs. HID vs. CFL debate.

I agree with you Gbud, small foot print and initially expensive.

I'm sorry JumpinLow, while I've done some reading on these LED units, as well as Apollo10, and others, I still need to do more before commenting further.

One of the reasons I've grown with HIDs and now use CFLs and am waiting on LEDs is cost. Let's hope Ayos will get back soon or we'll hijack and start the debating.

But, I'll be back... 52.

The one thing I disagree with in this whole led debate and sales pitch is the heat issue. The fans blow plenty of heat off the heat sinks and there is no way of sucking it out of the room like you can with a hid hood.

Nutogrow,

I agree with your comment regarding heat, as all forms of converting electricity into light are inefficient to some degree (pun intended) and thus give off heat as well as light, although I believe in this case, you are referring to the power supply and it too has it's inefficiency, as does the ballasts on HIDs and CFLs. It comes under the conservation of energy section of thermodynamics and is a fact of life, with the exception being super conductors.

Where I respectfully disagree with you is your comment that this is a "led debate and sales pitch" as the original statement from Ayos was "I am looking to see if a led light would do my plant any good and if so what color would be best".

I asked Ayos for more information and stated twice that "I'm not trying to start a LED vs. HID vs. CFL discussion or hijack this thread" and once stated "As you can see Ayos, everybody wants to help you but you need to talk to us or this thread will become a LED vs. HID vs. CFL debate."

That being said, I'm willing to give Ayos two weeks to respond (he started this thread on Monday, the second of July) and then we will start debating.

Best regards to all,

52.

I am with you all the way on this one. I presently have 2 x 600 hps in a 4x4 tent. Each light has a 500 cfm fan pulling through a carbon filter and then ducting straight out of the room. I also have another 4x4 tent right next to it with a 1000 hps in it doing the same exhaust, an in room portable 11,000 btu ac, and the interior of those tents run right at 72f 24/7.

AND I GUARANTEE I GET MORE YIELD THAN ANYONE USING LED!!!!!! 1 TO 2 LBS every 4 to 5 weeks and still stay within legal limits in my state.

what is hid short for ??





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led bulbs wholesale

High Intensity Discharge lamp, like an HPS (High Pressure Sodium) or MH (Metal Halide).