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#1746764 - 06/27/12 08:26 AM Re: islam is real threat to world peace! [Re: Sticky_Icky]
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"Former British Colony of Palestine, handed to the European Jews, against the wishes of the NATIVES in that area. Result? Chaos, chaos and chaos."

God gave it to those European Jews fair and square!
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#1746819 - 06/27/12 04:53 PM Re: islam is real threat to world peace! [Re: Sir Robin the Fisherman]
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Jews have always lived in Israel. Anyone saying otherwise is spreading propaganda.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-CaG8jgVW0


Edited by Mr Hand (06/27/12 04:54 PM)

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#1746820 - 06/27/12 05:24 PM Re: islam is real threat to world peace! [Re: Mr Hand]
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In the year 638CE the muslims captured Jerusalem from the Byzantines and built a mosque on the site of the Jewish holy Temple.

Jews pray facing Jerusalem and the Temple Mount.

Muslims pray toward the city of Meca in Soudi Arabia.

Whem Muslims pray in Jerusalem they point their behinds to the Dome of the rock and the Temple mount.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU9CauJP4Pg&feature=related


[img]http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b71f69e20167631183af970b-400wi[/img]

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#1746834 - 06/27/12 10:16 PM Re: islam is real threat to world peace! [Re: Mr Hand]
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"Terah, the tenth in descent from Noah, fathered Abram, Nahor and Haran, and Haran fathered Lot. Haran died in his native Ur of the Chaldees,"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham

"Ur... Ur of the Chaldees ... is a biblical place mentioned in the Book of Genesis that refers to a location that the Patriarch Abraham may have been from. ... 1927 Leonard Woolley identified Ur Ka&#347;dim with the Sumerian city of Ur, in southern Mesopotamia, where the Chaldeans had settled around the 9th century BCE;[1] Ur lay on the boundary of the region called Kaldu (Chaldea, corresponding to Hebrew Ka&#347;dim) in the first millennium BCE."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur_of_the_Chaldees

"Ur (Sumerian: Urim;[1] Sumerian Cuneiform: &#74432;&#73749;&#74144; URIM2KI or &#74432;&#73738;&#74144; URIM5KI;[2] Akkadian: Uru[3]) was an important Sumerian city-state in ancient Mesopotamia located at the site of modern Tell el-Muqayyar in Iraq's Dhi Qar Governorate.[4] Once a coastal city near the mouth of the Euphrates on the Persian Gulf, Ur is now well inland, south of the Euphrates on its right bank, 16 kilometres (9.9 mi) from Nasiriyah."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur


Oh look ... the Jews are actually from Iraq. They lived outside of Israel from Abraham to Moses ... from 1976 BCE to around 1391–1271 ... the Jews spent their first seven hundred years outside of Israel ... according to the Old Testament.

If you're willing to call the OT "propaganda" and dismiss it as such, then you can also discount any claim that the Jews have to Israel, for all such claims ALSO come from the Old Testament.

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#1746835 - 06/27/12 10:20 PM Re: islam is real threat to world peace! [Re: Mr Hand]
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In February 2006, the U.S. and Israel imposed a siege in Gaza after the "wrong side" -- Hamas -- won elections in Palestine, recognized as free and fair. The siege became much harsher in June 2007 after the failure of a U.S.-backed military coup to overthrow the elected government.

In June 2010, the siege of Gaza was condemned by the International Committee of the Red Cross -- which rarely issues such reports -- as "collective punishment imposed in clear violation" of international humanitarian law. The BBC reported that the ICRC "paints a bleak picture of conditions in Gaza: hospitals short of equipment, power cuts lasting hours each day, drinking water unfit for consumption," and the population of course imprisoned.

The criminal siege extends the U.S.-Israeli policy since 1991 of separating Gaza from the West Bank, thus ensuring that any eventual Palestinian state would be effectively contained within hostile powers -- Israel and the Jordanian dictatorship. The Oslo Accords, signed by Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization in 1993, proscribe separating Gaza from the West Bank.

A more immediate threat facing U.S.-Israeli rejectionism is the Freedom Flotilla that seeks to challenge the blockade of Gaza by bringing letters and humanitarian aid. In May 2010, the last such attempt led to an attack by Israeli commandoes in international waters -- a major crime in itself -- in which nine passengers were killed, actions bitterly condemned outside the U.S.

In Israel, most people convinced themselves that the commandoes were the innocent victims, attacked by passengers, another sign of the self-destructive irrationality sweeping the society.

Today the U.S. and Israel are vigorously seeking to block the flotilla. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton virtually authorized violence, stating that "Israelis have the right to defend themselves" if flotillas "try to provoke action by entering into Israeli waters" -- that is, the territorial waters of Gaza, as if Gaza belonged to Israel.

Greece agreed to prevent the boats from leaving (that is, those boats not already sabotaged) -- though, unlike Clinton, Greece referred rightly to "the maritime area of Gaza."

In January 2009, Greece had distinguished itself by refusing to permit U.S. arms to be shipped to Israel from Greek ports during the vicious U.S.-Israeli assault in Gaza. No longer an independent country in its current financial duress, Greece evidently cannot risk such unusual integrity.

Asked whether the flotilla is a "provocation," Chris Gunness, the spokesperson for the U.N. Relief and Works Agency, the major aid agency for Gaza, described the situation as desperate: "If there were no humanitarian crisis, if there weren't a crisis in almost every aspect of life in Gaza there would be no need for the flotilla. 95 percent of all water in Gaza is undrinkable, 40 percent of all disease is water-borne … 45.2 percent of the labor force is unemployed, 80 percent aid dependency, a tripling of the abject poor since the start of the blockade. Let's get rid of this blockade and there would be no need for a flotilla."

Diplomatic initiatives such as the Palestinian state strategy, and nonviolent actions generally, threaten those who hold a virtual monopoly on violence. The U.S. and Israel are trying to sustain indefensible positions: the occupation and its subversion of the overwhelming, long-standing consensus on a diplomatic settlement.

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/20110707.htm
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#1746884 - 06/28/12 09:48 AM Re: islam is real threat to world peace! [Re: davidmalmolevine]
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Israel map throughout history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FspfOI_YRU&feature=related


So: What did non-Muslims have to say about Muhammad and Islam, during his lifetime, and for 60 years afterward?

Nothing.

They made no mention of Muhammad or Muslims or Islam at all, at least until around the start of the 8th century.



Edited by Mr Hand (06/28/12 09:50 AM)

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#1746887 - 06/28/12 10:26 AM Re: islam is real threat to world peace! [Re: Mr Hand]
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Why do we always worry about the Jews? Let's worry about the citizens of the United States first. As a matter of fact, I think we need a constitutional ammendment which requires that the congress can make no law which sends unsecured monies to any other nation.
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#1746928 - 06/28/12 06:40 PM Re: islam is real threat to world peace! [Re: OCNORML]
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America gives aid to 190 countries around the world. Most are Muslim countries that hate both us and Israel. They call us Big Satan and little Satan. Lets start by cutting off all countries that hate us first. That would be a great start!

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#1753797 - 09/14/12 11:52 PM Re: islam is real threat to world peace! [Re: OCNORML]
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JAY CARNEY ON UNREST IN MIDDLE EAST: ‘THIS IS NOT A CASE OF PROTESTS DIRECTED AT THE UNITED STATES’


Posted on September 14, 2012 at 12:45pm by Jason Howerton Print »Email »
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Jay Carney (file, AP)
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney on Friday insisted that the protests in the Middle East are not “directed at the United States” but are instead the direct result of an anti-Muslim YouTube clip.

“This is a fairly volatile situation, and it is in response not to United States policy, obviously not to the administration, not to the American people. It is in response to a video, a film, that we have judged to be reprehensible and disgusting — that in no way justifies any violent reaction to it.”

Carney went on to repeat this point at least two more times during his daily press briefing with reporters.

“But this is not a case of protests directed at the United States writ large or at U.S. policy, but it is in response to video that is offensive to Muslims,” said Carney.

“The unrest we’ve seen is in reaction to a film in which the United States government had no involvement,”he added.

Watch some of Carney’s remarks here:



Carney explained that for other countries it can be “difficult to understand” why the United States allows such offensive speech as that displayed in the anti-Muhammad flick “Innocence of Muslims.” He reiterated that the Obama administration would not seek to limit freedom of speech, even speech it finds offensive.

However, today’s events — in addition to the anti-American protests throughout the week — seemingly contradict Carney’s assertion. In country’s like Tunisia, Lebanon, Malaysia, Indonesia, India and even Israel, protesters burned American flags and chanted phrases like “death to America,” Fox News reported.


(Photo: AFP/Getty Images)

Palestinian Hamas supporters burn a U.S. flag during a protest in Gaza City, Friday, Sept. 14, 2012 as part of widespread anger across the Muslim world about a film ridiculing Islam's Prophet Muhammad. (Credit: AP)
Earlier this week, U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, and three staffers were killed after a group of armed radical Islamists stormed the American embassy complex in Benghazi.

Additionally, anti-American protesters in Morocco Wednesday reportedly chanted “Death to Obama” outside the U.S. consulate in Casablanca.

Despite numerous news reports that indicate the attacks on the U.S. consulate in Libya was planned ahead of time to occur on the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, Carney also said there was no evidence to suggest that was the case.

Watch more of Carney’s presser via the Washington Free Beacon:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/jay-carn...-united-states/

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#1753828 - 09/15/12 09:32 AM Re: islam is real threat to world peace! [Re: Mr Hand]
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Where are the interviews with the people who are doing the destruction saying "we are doing this because of that fucking movie" ??
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