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#1746853 - 06/28/12 04:28 AM miami zombie not high on bath salts
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http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27/medical-examiner-causeway-cannibal-not-high-on-bath-salts/

Medical Examiner: Causeway Cannibal Not High On Bath Salts

MIAMI (CBSMiami) – Rudy Eugene, the Causeway Cannibal who ate the face off a homeless man he attacked along the MacArthur Causeway, was apparently not high on bath salts or any other exotic street drug at the time of the attack, according to a report released Wednesday by the Miami-Dade Medical Examiner.

The news leaves law enforcement officials wondering what drove Eugene to strip off his clothes, attack homeless man Ronald Poppo, and chew off pieces of flesh from Poppo’s face.

Speculation about the cause of Eugene’s rampage on Poppo’s face centered on drugs, specifically bath salts, after police union officials claimed an increase in bizarre behavior among people on the street using such drugs.

The much-anticipated toxicology report released by Miami-Dade Medical Examiner Dr. Bruce Hyma found marijuana in Eugene’s system, something CBS4 News had previously reported, but no evidence of any other street drugs, alcohol or prescription drugs, or any adulterants found in street drugs.

The report said this includes cocaine, LSD, amphetamines (Ecstasy, Meth and others), phencyclidine (PCP or Angel Dust), heroin, oxycodone, Xanax, synthetic marijuana (Spice), and many other similar compounds.

Hyma’s office specifically ruled out bath salts, a class of synthetic drugs that have been known to cause bizarre behavior and overheating of people who use them, two things that made some believe Eugene’s cannibalistic behavior could be blamed on the drugs.

“The department has also sought the assistance of an outside forensic toxicology reference laboratory, which has confirmed the absence of “bath salts,” synthetic marijuana and LSD,” the report said.

“Within the limits of current technology by both laboratories, marijuana is the only drug identified in the body of Mr. Rudy Eugene.”

The news from the medical examiner sends investigators back to square one as they look for what caused Eugene’s bizarre behavior

A girlfriend and a friend who had seen Eugene hours before the attack said he had used marijuana, but had seen him use no other drug before traveling to the Urban Beach Weekend on Miami Beach the morning of the attack.

Eugene abandoned his car on the beach and walked back to Miami on the MacArthur Causeway, stripping off his clothes during the three-mile trip, and at one point he was spotted swinging from a lamp post.

Once on the Miami side of the causeway, he encountered Poppo where the MiamiMover crosses the causeway, in view of security cameras atop the Miami Herald building. Those cameras detailed how the naked cannibal attacked the much older Poppo, knocked him to the ground, and stripped him of his clothing.

Once overcome, Eugene chewed flesh from Poppo’s face, but a later autopsy report found he did not actually eat it.

A police officer was called to the scene by people who spotted the bizarre attack. He tried to intervene but was forced to shoot, killing Eugene and apparently striking the badly wounded Poppo.

Poppo, who was taken to Ryder Trauma Center, survived the attack but has no memory of it. His face was virtually destroyed but doctors say much of it can be repaired.

Eugene’s family and friends say they are clueless about why he attacked Poppo, claiming the former high school football player and car wash employee had never shown such violent tendencies. Many believed drugs were to blame, but with Wednesday’s report the search has begun for a new cause for one of South Florida’s most bizarre crimes.
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#1746854 - 06/28/12 04:55 AM Re: miami zombie not high on bath salts [Re: blue skies]
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bet they turn it to the pot as the cause ..
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#1746867 - 06/28/12 06:28 AM Re: miami zombie not high on bath salts [Re: weedmen]
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I'm not seeing much in the way blaming the marijuana...which is good...one does not equate the events to use. My guess, he was insane and possibly fueled by religious concepts as he was a Haitian. His girlfriend suggested a "voodoo" curse and a friend suggested he was under attack by the Devil. With such religious pressures perhaps his mental illness was fueled by it.
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#1746891 - 06/28/12 11:00 AM Re: miami zombie not high on bath salts [Re: Ohigho]
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Sometimes the only true answer is he went crazy! I am glad they are all shouting this was weeds fault.

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#1747054 - 06/30/12 10:17 AM Re: miami zombie not high on bath salts [Re: topcat1666]
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Last story I read pointed out that he could have still been on a substance like Bath Salts. These chemicals differ between brands and are routinely changed to beat illegality and while they tested for "Bath Salts" etc they only tested for the most common oldest known bath salts chemical. And it pointed out that it was beyond belief that weed was the cause.

Personally if they want to try to make pot to be this big new monster all of a sudden...I think it is not in 'their' interest...only make themselves look more silly.
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#1747057 - 06/30/12 10:36 AM Re: miami zombie not high on bath salts [Re: Ohigho]
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They've looked silly for years and are to brainwashed for that to matter to them.

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