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#1745464 - 06/16/12 09:37 AM Re: Popped the Tea cherry ! [Re: GBuds]
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Makes sense GB, thanks for confirming my suspicions. Fed the girls nothing but molasses the past two weeks, as it's harvest time smile

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#1746621 - 06/25/12 07:31 PM Re: Popped the Tea cherry ! [Re: GBuds]
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Originally Posted By: Doobie_Brother
With chemical ferts, it is usually wise to stop pois...I mean feeding your plants a few weeks before harvest, in order to flush. As this does not apply to organics, should I apply my tea right up to the end ?


Don't know why you had to take a shot at synthetic nutes to ask a question about flushing or actually whether to keep feeding your plants organic tea. We shouldn't give people idea that synthetic nutes pois..... Plants.

Because if used properly they don't. The problem is most growers don't know how to use the exact feeding their particular plants use. So they over feed and its gets stored organelles. It's hard to figure out with out tons of time and experience.

But to answer you question it's better to slowly stop feeding and make the plant EVENLY use up it's food in soil and stored in plant to properly ensure all compounds (mobile and immobile) are used to their potential. It's a lot more complex but I'm stoned and tired. I'm sure with some research you can figure this out. Seems simple enough.

Good luck with the tea and such.
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#1747051 - 06/30/12 08:06 AM Re: Popped the Tea cherry ! [Re: JumpinLow]
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Thanks Free. I have nothing against those using chems. My 'shot' was done in jest - with a hint of truth behind it. You are bang on when you mentioned that many people tend to use them incorrectly, ending up with harsh, black-ashed buds. If used correctly, and totally flushed out, they can be very effective and definitely have a place in growing good canna.

I'll need a few more years experience growing organically before I have the amounts dialed-in. Been playing with my media mixes, but am probably overdoing some things, and under-adding others. Until then, I'll flush for two weeks.

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#1749159 - 07/25/12 07:18 AM Re: Popped the Tea cherry ! [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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Been having a few issues recently, so this is a call to the organic gods for help!

My last few teas have not had the foamy head the first few did, but worse they are starting to smell nasty, meaning anaerobes are forming (I believe). Would a simple increase in aeration do the trick ?

Details: I am now removing my sock full of goodies after 12-18 hrs, allowing the tea to bubble overnight at that point. This I decided after watching a few vids on U-tube: good idea or not ?
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#1749295 - 07/26/12 01:47 PM Re: Popped the Tea cherry ! [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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dump the tea if it goes sewer and start over. is the room a little warm? maybe it's getting too warm and not holding oxygen. which if it's the case no matter how much aeration you have it'll keep doing the same thing.

I'd also just keep the sock full of goodies in there while brewing, it's what I do.

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#1749307 - 07/26/12 05:25 PM Re: Popped the Tea cherry ! [Re: Chauncey Gardinir]
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High CG, welcome to the forums.

Tossed. You'd think someone with a background in micro would know a thing or two about growing a culture! It's the plant-food-provider thing I need to brush up on: thanks for the post. Yep, it's probably a combo of high temps and inadequate aeration -
should upgrade the pump...

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#1752023 - 08/25/12 08:19 AM Re: Popped the Tea cherry ! [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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Just curious, does anyone make up tea without the use of an air pump? I've seen a few vids where it seemed these guys did not have any aeration at all.
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#1752030 - 08/25/12 10:04 AM Re: Popped the Tea cherry ! [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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Should work fine, Doobie. Just mix and pour. I wouldn't let it sit without air, though. Mix and use right away. Pretty sure the air is to get the beneficials going. If you just want to get some goodies to your plants, this method will work fine. Think of it as glorified top dressing.
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#1752154 - 08/27/12 07:40 AM Re: Popped the Tea cherry ! [Re: GBuds]
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Sounds like a plan GB, thanks bro.

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#1752179 - 08/27/12 12:38 PM Re: Popped the Tea cherry ! [Re: JumpinLow]
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Originally Posted By: JumpinLow
The problem is most growers don't know how to use the exact feeding their particular plants use.


....and unfortunately, no amount of reading or talking will give you the answer. Jorge C just says "follow the labels on the hydro nute bottle". There are no baselines out there. Wish there were. His first book came out in '83 and he has worked with many labs over the years..

I gather that you should start with a organic fert of @ 400 ppm and max out in budding at 1K ppm but this has been argued as well...

On the flip side, we have a group that after they mix the soil, they add no nutes...everything being provided by the amendments to the soil..

You do what works for you over time...

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