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#1746673 - 06/26/12 09:00 AM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: smokum]
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Well I may not have all the answers and agree that if HC says you can have it, you should have it. Maybe they should offer health coverage for our meds and or equipment.

Keep in mind 'unable to grow for whatever reason' leads to things like...I'm too lazy/drunk to grow, this dood sends me free bud, why would I bother - it's awesome!

I realize it's expensive to get started and can be challenging, but I also believe the best, strongest healing is from the whole plant. People serious about the MMAR program and their health will almost always be growing their own supply to ensure things like ferts, curing, extracts, etc are within their desired range. Anyone ever hear of a DG being asked to send leaf in place of bud for juicing say? There is also the bond between patient and plant and medicine that forms over time.

Maybe if they started a program where they oversee DG operations to ensure compliance. As I have heard earlier, there may be a connection that exists between a patient receiving free meds and proceeds of crime should that persons DG ever be busted, leaving the end-patient vulnerable to police charges, although I am unsure on this.
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#1746680 - 06/26/12 10:29 AM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: Iam]
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Originally Posted By: Iam
No, most home-based growers that I know do NOT light up a 49 plant license in a warehouse with 50k watts of light!! IT IS NOT THE SAME. A person at home selling a oz here and there is a lot different than a DG pumping out pounds and pounds and pounds (and pounds).


And that still leaves patients who cannot grow for themselves out in the cold. Not a logical step. Give those who have the ability to produce their own medicine, the ability to produce their own medicine, who are also likely to be functional in the work place, and have potential for above average income.

All the while leaving people who are unable to grow for themselves due to whatever physical restriction they may have, meanwhile, their also unlikely to be functional in the workplace, limiting their income to a low end fixed income.

Why make them pay for their meds @ whatever a commercial grower would charge, when you can grow your own for next to nothing, all the while your able bodied enough to WORK.


You think a cancer patient who earns $29,000 a year on a fixed income has the money to purchase their own medicine, and depending on the severity of their condition, the physical abilities to produce their own medicine...

What you saying is this Cancer patient should have to suffer because he shouldn't be allowed to have someone grow for them, that they should spend half of their measly $29,000/year income on what makes the last remaining days/weeks/months/years of their life at least a little bit worth living. All the while you, who is earning $35,000/year or more gets to sit back and ride the gravy train.

You're logic is severely flawed, and if you believe for a second anything your actually saying, you're no better than Harper himself.


Edited by PharOG (06/26/12 10:32 AM)
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#1746688 - 06/26/12 11:22 AM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: PharOG]
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PharOG, you are missing the point..greedy DG's have been using the system to their monetary gain. This is a fact. There is no compassion, otherwise why no 'free weed' unless your daily limit is high enough?

What about the cancer patient who has MMAR limit of 5 grams and NO DG will grow for him since it's not worth it financially from their stand point.

I am NOT talking about the DG's that are providing the service as it should be provided. I am talking about the 'super croppers' that are taking your total plant count and flowering each one of them under 1000w. THAT is what is wrong. Where do you think all the extra weed goes? WHO do you think has the kind of cash to load up all the required equipment.

My logic remains intact. I am like Harper because I think that DG's taking a patients license and making 6 figures a year is fundamentally wrong? I am PRO weed and ANTI organized crime thank you very much.
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#1746695 - 06/26/12 12:14 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: Iam]
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750 a day. Wow. How can someone even grow that many plants? its like 3750

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#1746698 - 06/26/12 12:32 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: GreenGuy0420]
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^^^^^ More like 22,500 grams a month (49.55 pounds) or 270,000 grams a year (594.6 pounds)
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#1746714 - 06/26/12 02:57 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: Iam]
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Originally Posted By: Iam
PharOG, you are missing the point..greedy DG's have been using the system to their monetary gain. This is a fact. There is no compassion, otherwise why no 'free weed' unless your daily limit is high enough?

What about the cancer patient who has MMAR limit of 5 grams and NO DG will grow for him since it's not worth it financially from their stand point.

I am NOT talking about the DG's that are providing the service as it should be provided. I am talking about the 'super croppers' that are taking your total plant count and flowering each one of them under 1000w. THAT is what is wrong. Where do you think all the extra weed goes? WHO do you think has the kind of cash to load up all the required equipment.

My logic remains intact. I am like Harper because I think that DG's taking a patients license and making 6 figures a year is fundamentally wrong? I am PRO weed and ANTI organized crime thank you very much.



Despite that, abolishing DG's will not solve any problem, there needs to be more in terms of screening etc, or complete legalization, removing something that most end of life patients need just so you can continue to grow your medicine legally is inhumane at it's core.


DG's are DG's, one is no different than the other if that portion is removed., ALL DG's, even the good ones, get fucked, as do their patients.


Edited by PharOG (06/26/12 03:00 PM)
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#1746725 - 06/26/12 04:14 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: Iam]
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My logic remains intact. I am like Harper because I think that DG's taking a patients license and making 6 figures a year is fundamentally wrong? I am PRO weed and ANTI organized crime thank you very much.


I hope you are nothing like HARPER. What a dg does, is between his or hers patient. If a dg, uses the system , to make lots of $$$$$$, isnt up to the patient, to be more knowledgeable, not to allow the rights to be pimped out. Instead of Harper, making changes. more patients just need to be more responsible for there self.

Overgrow the government.

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#1746727 - 06/26/12 04:29 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: Iam]
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So, whats the answer. Take the profit away from a DG and give it to some ethnic groups instead?
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#1746730 - 06/26/12 04:47 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: banty2]
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ya Harper will need extra income, to take care of jails , he is hoping to fill. Legalize it, take the power out.

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#1746776 - 06/27/12 11:10 AM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: seabc]
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