Even with my solar power setup my monthly power bill is nasty.

I expect it to go up more now that I have a grow, but that's gonna be factored into the monthly cost of my meds, what can ya do??

I thought my seed limit was only 60 seeds as well, but the forms that HC sent to me said I was allowed to order 90 seeds from them, so whatever they say goes I guess...lol.

I've already had discussions with NS power about how high the bills have been, so I would be surprised if they flagged me for high usage, anyhow, if they did, who cares, I'm totally legit, and they can kiss my ass.

I'm tired of the stigma that goes along with trying to lead a normal life.

After people looking at me funny for 5 years of being on methadone for severe pain (even pharmacies)I really don't care what people think of me if I'm just trying to get well and lead a normal productive life.

Don't we all deserve that?

yall are really bored to take a guys simple question of can I clone from a late flowering plant to where yall have gone with this. I'm not sure I would say it got hijacked but this thread certainly went much deeper than the question required.

What's all this bs have to do with answering the mans question?

Some of you Canadians that have learned to live with the 15 plant count need to explain to him how to do this.

Where I live we are only allowed 7 plants and I have taught many how to do a perpetual harvest where one can harvest a qp every month with.
Surely a 15 plant count can be managed for the man.

Wow...missed this thread for a couple of days and see what happens!

Have I seen this happen ? Nope, don't need to see everything myself before I can form an opinion. I have, unfortunately, experienced the pain and embarrassment of hermies popping up in my flowering room (is it even possible for this to happen while in veg ?...not likely). The plant in question was apparently from a batch of seed produced from a hermie... something I was not aware of at the time.

If you carefully read what I wrote, I indicated that forcing a flowering plant back to vegging mode May lead to nastyness. Certainly you are not going to argue with that ? Of course it can work, but why take the chance of polluting an entire crop with hermie dust ? Unless something unexpected happens, the only excuse for attempting this is a lack of planning ahead.

If a method is proven, repeatable and effective, why mess with success ? Keep it simple and do whatever is necessary to reduce the number and severity of problems. I would no more choose to clone flowering plants than I would try to take cuttings from a plant hanging upside down in my drying room.

Not to get back on topic or anything...

As this thread started last Saturday, I'm sure you're even closer to making the final cut now. Time may be critical if you have produced a lady, or two, that has done exceptionally well. Cloning can be tried at this late stage, however the success rate will be low as several have pointed out. Cloning a flower must be done as early as is possible in order to increase the chances of survival.

At this point, I would like to reiterate what I know of your grow, i.e., fifteen plants maximum, small grow area, power consumption an issue, etc., and ask for a few more details.

What is your flower area size? Is this a room, closet, basement, tent or what? How do you light this area and what ancillary equipment do you use? Do you grow all fifteen plants at the same stage at the same time and thus harvest all at once? Are you growing in dirt or hydro? How do you plan on cloning? How long have the plants in flower taken to mature to a point that you wish to harvest, including flush?

For your immediate situation, this close to harvest, I still recommend re-vegetating a plant or two, that has been harvested (even after flush) per my first post at the bottom of page one, as you will already know the sex and what she is capable of producing. It will take a while and you will be investing money for power to do so, but you have already invested quite a bit (in both power and nutrients) to get the plant to the point at which it is now, only to throw those beautiful roots and trunk away and start all over. Re-vegetating can be done with a twenty-three watt, five-thousand degree Kelvin (or higher) CFL mounted in a brooder reflector and you can purchase both of these at a Home Depot (or equivalent). Those reflectors will really do a good job concentrating the light from a small bulb on the plant, similar to a flashlight. I use this same bulb/reflector in my veggie area and the concentrated blueish light will keep the plant from stretching, just keep them right on top of the plant without actually touching and raise them to follow growth.

For your long term goals and due to you fifteen plant limit, I would recommend a perpetual grow. Take the best reverted plant, and let it become a temporary mother. Take any other reverted plants and re-flower. As it (the one you keep) gets taller, trim the main stem (it will usually end up being your best clone) and side branches and clone them, keeping at least three nodes above the dirt/water level and at least one node below. There are several good cloning threads on this forum so check them out. Once you have viable clones, destroy the weakest and move the strongest into vegetation. As these grow taller, you can trim them back and use the trimmed parts for cloning. At some point, as you have clones going and veggies vegging, you can move the temporary mother into flower for a second harvest as now you can take cuttings for future clones from your veggies.

Keep records, and in time you will know exactly how long each process takes, come up with a schedule, and know what to do when, in order to harvest a plant every week or two, depending on your strain.

This in not something I've just read about, it's how I grow and with the exception of a few spider mite infestations and (currently) a gnat infestation, it works well. I put two plants in every two weeks and harvest two plants every two weeks. I trim wet i.e. right after harvest and then dry buds on screens. The plant I grow was started from seed about five years ago.

I do not wish to hijack your thread so for more information on my grow, send me a personal message and I'll send you a link.

Good luck with your grow.

Best regards, 52.

Actually, yes I am absolutely, totally contesting that.

Taken in flowering, if the clone does start growing again, any "memory" is erased. You don't get a genetic change from that. You're not altering the plant in that way, you're not making it any more likely to hermie in the future. It doesn't work like that. The plant is not going to hermie under 18/6 or 24/0, so if you get it to vegetatively grow up top, you're "erasing" any stress, and it will NOT hermie later when flowered as a result of this. If taken too late, it will simply not grow up top at all, if taken later than ideal, it will take longer to root and grow, and may grow a ton of those little offshoots. Still, hermies are not going to result from any of this!! The worst that can happen is the clones will fail. I really don't understand why people keep talking about hermies with this, when no one has ever had this happen as a result of it!

Maybe if you got the clone to root, but it hadn't started growing up top, and then you switched it to 12/12, it might hermie then, but that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about getting the clone to actually vegetatively grow before being flowered out.

Now to address the last sentence of your quoted paragraph, "the only excuse for attempting this is a lack of planning ahead." Well, the way I've done it for a while now is take clones 1 week into flowering, and as I've said, I typically get 100% success or very close to that. That absolutely is planning ahead, how is it not?? It allows me to not keep mother plants, significantly streamlining my operation. Taking clones 1 week in has no drawback whatsoever, they are right in the middle of a growth spurt, they root and grow very easily and have plenty of vigor.

And that was my advice to the o.p., fuck the law's plant counts, take clones 1 week in for your next run.

I have to agree w/ Harvey. I used to plan on cloning 2-3 weeks in. Any sooner and they would get too big before my flowering area had room. It was 100% planned, and I never had a hermie.

Harvey, you're just babbling, trying to cling to some hope that you look intelligent.

You have not been able to keep the facts of the issue straight, you talk in circles.

You are full of shit.

Harvey and The Guy, you two just don't like each other and have different perspectives on how things in a grow should be. So please agree to disagree and move on. None of this bickering answers the man's original question as it got answered long ago. Let me further say that personal attacks are not appropriate in these forums cause you can't take one another out back and whoop it up like you want and the rest of us don't want to read your tirades of insanity. So please discontinue as you two have a running argument going in multiple threads. If you wanna argue please start a thread entitled "TheGuy vs Harvey" and have at it.

Or take it to the Sparring Room in the Socializing Lounge located under Cannabis Cafe. I go there occasionally to get a laugh...

Thank you all for your help, I really appreciate it.

For once people aren't making me feel stupid for asking questions and trying to learn something, we all need to be a newbie sometime.

TheGuy, why don't you stop posting in this thread, as far as I can tell you haven't given me ANY help or suggestions and only have succeeded in stirring up shit, pissing people off, and trying to start arguments.

That's not why I'm here.

I'm here to learn, why? So I can make the quality of my life better.

Watching people bicker back and forth stresses me out..