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#1744233 - 06/02/12 11:34 AM higher yields
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I will start off saying that the only camera I have right now is a microscope so I can't post pics of these girls.

I have been playing with how to attain higher yields for awhile now and have tried many things including having smaller 20+ plants in my flower room to what I have right now which is 4 in the flower room. Everything I have done has been in dwc under a minimum of 1000 watts hps and as much as 2200 watts at times.

When I flowered out 20 small plants I got an average of 3/4 oz dried per plant and harvested a total of 15oz. This grow was done under 2200 watts hps in a tent with gh nutes with a ph of 5.7

The grow I am doing now has 4 plants that I vegged for 2 months. The root balls fill up a 3 gal bucket. I topped multiple times and then after they came back from that shock, I super cropped. When these girls went into flower they were approx 2' x 2.5' x 2.5' and had over 50 bud sites. I then placed them into flower under a single 1000 watt light thus giving me the ability to keep the tent at exactly 72f 24/7. I run them at 5.7 ph and am still using gh nutes. the strains are the same as when I did 20 plants under 2200 watts hps. Presently these girls are in week 6 of flower and are on track to produce appoximately 24 oz dried bud.

This experiment is far from done and I am going to tune this in where I am running all lights again with more plants but growing them out like I have done this time far surpasses the other method and keeps me within legal limits and dropped my electric bill to boot.

How many of you have played with these ideas? what worked? what didnt?
would scrogging bring my yield even higher? I was contemplating doing exactly the same as I did this last time except to place a screen on them about 2 weeks before flowering.


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#1744275 - 06/02/12 05:34 PM Re: higher yields [Re: Rebel Dawg]
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Were the plants you used all clones from a single mother ? If so, as I suspect, your experiment looks good from where I'm sitting Rebel. I have read similar procedures set up to answer the question you have tacked: all agree with your findings. Less is more. smile Nice work Reb.
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#1744284 - 06/02/12 06:06 PM Re: higher yields [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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Yes they all came from clones of the same mother, just grown and flowered differently
They say perfection is one gram per watt, so I am at around 67% of that right now. I want to try and get as close as possible to 1000 grams of dried trimmed bud as I can and then multiple the numbers doing whatever I have learned in all of it If I get this down like I want to, I should be able to get a fat ass harvest with less electric usage. what a concept.

Let me back track for a moment. I have gotten the quality part down pat at this point so am now focusing on yields.



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#1744323 - 06/03/12 07:38 AM Re: higher yields [Re: Rebel Dawg]
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Is a gram per watt a feasible goal ? In my opinion, anything over .5 is gravy! You're clearly doing everything right, and have a great number as proof. I'm quite interested in seeing if and how you increase that.

Good luck bigleaf
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#1744331 - 06/03/12 08:52 AM Re: higher yields [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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DB, I agree 1 gram per watt is the fabled number I have never neared til now and I want to achieve it if it can be done. I have the right genetics for it, Medibud is the best high quality high yiel plant I have stumbled into and I believe that it if it can be done these are the genetics to do it. I approached such a few years ago but the quality was not nearly as good.
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#1744343 - 06/03/12 09:24 AM Re: higher yields [Re: Rebel Dawg]
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shizz u guys know im always tweaking my system. and it seems like even this space has its limitations. the most so far outa this 2x4 ive achieved is 2 grams under 9 ounces even. i am always looking to try and push that farther currently im just running 400w up top and two 4' 2 bulb t12(i know shit bulbs) vertically to fill in where the hid fades out. after talking with E1 i have decided to do what i used to do.... more plants in smaller containers topped... this time i will be applying the lolli pop method also/shave their legs once the canopy has become level. oh the reason im not using t8 bulbs is that when i tested them on my killa watt they actually pulled more wattage and heat than the t12. currently im at 671w worth of draw exactly.any tips besides dithch them t12 is deff welcome i am currently in the process of ditching t12 for t5.
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#1744377 - 06/03/12 03:04 PM Re: higher yields [Re: the_dank_one]
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dank, you grow sog correct? Dank from what you said above you are getting about .42 grams per watt which in my opinion is pretty dam good.
Has anyone out there actually achieved the fabled 1 gram per watt and if so how?


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#1744428 - 06/04/12 05:59 AM Re: higher yields [Re: Rebel Dawg]
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I'll put down good money that they don't use CFLs smile


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#1744435 - 06/04/12 07:27 AM Re: higher yields [Re: Rebel Dawg]
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Originally Posted By: Rebel Dawg
Has anyone out there actually achieved the fabled 1 gram per watt and if so how?


Well I have a little experience on the subject. When I grew in a closet 3x5 I ran a 400 watter and played with 4 cfl's in the corners for side light. Heat was an issue so the cfl's had to go. This is when I realized that that popcorn bud I was trying to grow out was actually dropping my final weight. Once I started shaving legs my final weight began to increase.

The biggest jump came with the timming of topping the plant. When topped then put into flower right away left me with this mass of buds, almost like a main cola but a cluster of the top laterials. Topping to late allowed for the mains to shoot way higher leaving the rest in the dust to produce smaller buds. 7-10 days was the timming I needed for it all to come together. This allowed for about right amount of growth and made for an even canopy with all laterials making it to the top.

In my 3x5 closets I was able to surpass the magical 1g mark. I even hit 1.25g a couple of times. I would say that the confined space had a little to do with it also.

Now a days I grow in a completely different senerio and although I produce more now my numbers are more like .5-.6g. Still respectable but Im not finished tweaking eitherwink

Each strain will be slightly different but this 7-10 days seems to work really well for all the strains I have experience with. Sativa dominant strains seems to act totally different but with these too, I think it all comes down to timming of the grower.
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#1744481 - 06/04/12 02:47 PM Re: higher yields [Re: Rebel Dawg]
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Im all over the place when it comes to my closet reb. if i use 5 gal i can only fit 3 plants in their if i use 3 i can fit 4 plants and 2 gals 6/8. yeah i guess it could be classified as SOG . sometimes i top some times i LST(pinch and bend) it all depends on the strain i am growing. for a while now i have tried to grow nothing twice but this in my opinion is just a pain in the ass always waiting for sex to show winding up with herms or males in my veg cab is just really starting to get old so i am back in the cloning game now. yeah i always pinch and bend to get a level canopy. its funny how the camera can play tricks and make 4 plants look like an entire room full if they are trained properly.
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