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#1708791 - 07/26/11 09:48 AM Re: Illegal Immigration Issues Don't Justify Biggo [Re: OCNORML]
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AS this Battle in Congress keeps our attention..
How are those Huge Corporations doing since they lost their Bush tax breaks?????????

Analysis: Companies churn out profits but jobs don't follow

July 26, 2011

The sluggish pace of hiring may be hobbling the economy, but it's not been holding back big U.S. companies' profits thanks to growth overseas and cost controls at home. And that's bad news for the more than 14 million Americans without jobs.

Big businesses would normally be desperate for surging job growth as it would feed into domestic demand but these aren't normal times. Massive growth opportunities overseas, especially in China and other buoyant Asian economies, have some of the largest American companies on track for record profits, even if they're businesses are mostly treading water in the U.S.

The message last week from the chief financial officer of one of the nation's industrial giants couldn't be clearer.

"We've driven all this cost out. Sales have come back, but people have not," said Greg Haynes, chief financial officer at United Technologies Corp. "It's the structural cost reductions that we have done over the past few years that have allowed us to see strong bottom-line results."

The company, the world's largest maker of air conditioners and elevators, said second-quarter profit rose 19 percent, and it is doing most of its hiring in emerging markets where demand for its products is growing fastest.

It isn't alone in seeing profits climb in the current earnings reporting season.

About 78 percent of companies in the benchmark S&P 500 index that have reported second-quarter earnings have beaten Wall Street expectations. Many benefited after slashing costs when the financial crisis hit and then keeping tight control on them even as sales recovered.

Economists say the ability to do more with less has helped create a two-speed U.S. recovery. The S&P 500 has doubled in value since the recession ended and per-share earnings are currently on track for a new annual record, while employment remains below the level seen in late 2008 when corporate profits troughed.

Employers added fewer jobs in June than at any time in the past nine months, and the jobless rate rose to 9.2 percent - higher than when the recession ended in early 2009.

"We've never seen the kind of shedding of jobs that we saw in this recession. America's corporations have never been running so efficiently," said Ellen Zentner, senior U.S. economist at Nomura Securities in New York.

LITTLE WAGE GROWTH

What's more, workers have never claimed such a paltry share of real national income growth. Economists at Northeastern University in Boston recently found corporate profits captured 88 percent of income growth between the second quarter of 2009 and the fourth quarter of 2010.

Workers' take? Slightly more than 1 percent.

"The only major beneficiaries of the recovery have been corporate profits and the stock market and its shareholders," the study concludes.

The high jobless rate is also keeping wage growth severely restrained in the U.S., which is also good for profit margins.

Recent Department of Labor data showed unit labor costs edged up 0.7 percent in the year to March, though not enough to make up a 2.9 percent decline in the prior 12-month period.

Northeastern economics professor Andrew Sum called the mismatch "historically unprecedented" and said it bodes ill for future growth, especially given many companies are sitting on their cash rather than investing it.

"Workers have no money, no purchasing power, so that's why consumption is not moving," he said. By sitting on profits, firms are acting like earners "who take their money and stuff it in the mattress. That's happening across the economy."

U.S. economic growth slowed sharply in the first quarter and was expected to remain below 2 percent in the May-June period.

Some blamed that on high energy prices and supply shortages caused by Japan's earthquake and are betting on a rebound in the second half.

A July Reuters poll put the median estimate for 2011 growth at 2.7 percent, down from 2.9 percent in 2010.

CHICKEN AND EGG

Businesses' ability to do more with the same or less -- what economists term increased productivity -- has been rising since the 1990s, thanks partly to technological advancements and the ability to tap markets in fast-growing, lower-cost developing countries.

Some of the most profitable firms are those with overseas markets. The largest U.S. conglomerate General Electric Co. tied its 21.6 percent rise in earnings partly to strong foreign demand for its heavy equipment, including jet engines and electric turbines.

In the United States, things are obviously different. Consumers are still trying to pay down large debts built up during the boom years, which suppresses spending and means there is little incentive for companies to hire.

"It's a chicken-and-egg thing -- whether demand or supply drives growth," Zentner said. "Studies show that lack of sales for small business is the biggest impediment to hiring."

Even companies selling basic consumer products are feeling the pinch as the jobless and those on low incomes watch the pennies. Pepsi Co Inc tempered its full-year outlook this week and said performance in its North American beverage business was worse than expected.

In the cost-conscious auto industry. General Motors Co's top U.S. sales chief, Don Johnson, told Reuters that its manufacturing managers have been "squeaking out extra units through improving line rates, adding on extra shifts". The company indicated it is in no hurry to build new factories or hire lots of new workers.

Uncertainty about future tax rates and policy, a by-product of the deadlock in Washington over whether to raise the country's borrowing limit and how to rein in a gaping budget deficit, has also made firms cautious, said Jacob Oubina, senior U.S. economist at RBC Capital Markets.

But Doug Cliggott, U.S. equity strategist at Credit Suisse, said investors and CEOs alike should probably prepare for more subdued earnings in the second half and beyond.

For one thing, growth abroad appears to be slowing as booming economies such as China andBrazil try to tame inflation. Heavy machine maker Caterpillar blamed slower U.S. and global growth for disappointing quarterly earnings on Friday.

And while U.S. interest rates are likely to remain very low for some time, companies won't be able to rely on massive federal spending, which Cliggott said also helped boost profits over the past two years.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/24/us-usa-jobs-earnings-idUSTRE76N2NF20110724

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#1708794 - 07/26/11 10:41 AM Re: Illegal Immigration Issues Don't Justify Biggo [Re: TimJ]
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Here is Bonner..
He act and talks as if he is president..

We all know here that Tax breaks and Government do not create Jobs..
As I have posted... Repukes are playing a Dangerous game with this Country...
The end game is they hate Obama so much, that they will run America Into the Ground to avoid his re election in the next term..
Another fact is small businesses have collapsed with the economy.. The Walmarts of America have taken over and pushed the Mom and Pop shops right out of business.. Mom and Pop cannot compete with Big Cooperation at all..
Repukes are all for this Country going down and they will play the Heros and revamp America to become America Inc....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#43861906

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#1708804 - 07/26/11 12:02 PM Long-term Joblessness takes its toll [Re: TimJ]
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/down-not-m-not-stupid-sure-made-feel-163258908.html

Down But Not Out: ‘I’m not stupid but I sure have been made to feel that way.’
By Phoebe Connelly & Zachary Roth | The Lookout – 2 hrs 15 mins ago

In June, we asked you for your stories spelling out what it's like to be out of work for an extended period. The thousands of anecdotes you sent us offer a heart-rending glimpse of how Americans are coping with long-term joblessness during the Great Recession and its aftermath. The responses The Lookout has collected from Yahoo readers offer a portrait of out-of-work people who are smart, articulate, motivated, and resilient--a useful corrective to some of the negative stereotypes that too often shape perceptions of this huge group of Americans.

We posted excerpts from many of the stories, as well as unveiling a separate site that houses even more. But the stories have continued to pour in, so we plan to keep sharing more.

Below is Linda L.'s story; you can read more accounts at our Tumblr site for this crowd-sourcing project, Down But Not Out.

‘I’m not stupid but I sure have been made to feel that way.’

My story won’t be any different from the article and stories I read on your website but it is good to know I am not alone. Everything people wrote about feeling horrible about themselves and not sleeping, not going out, not having money for food is true of me! I have a BS in Education and taught in the public school systems in Texas and Florida for over 15 years. I was on an annual contract in ‘08 in Florida when I was told my position was eliminated. I did apply for unemployment but thought that the proper thing to do was get another job immediately. I found a temp job and lost my unemployment. I also lost that job after working one month. Of course, I was no longer eligible for unemployment.

I found other odd jobs but was forced to sale my house on a short-sale. I attempted suicide when I had no money, no gas for my car, no job, no food, and my electric and water had been shut off. Only by some fluke of nature or whatever you want to call it did I survive. But survive is all I have been doing ever since. Odd jobs and graciousness from my mom keep me going but I have no quality of life. I live in hell on earth each and everyday.

I’m not stupid but I sure have been made to feel that way. I have filled out 100s of online applications and sent my resume as well and haven’t even received so much as an email from any of the places I have applied. It now seems like filling out online applications is someone’s idea of a cruel joke. They seem pointless. If I physically go into a place to inquire about jobs, the management always tells me to fill out the online application and then I never hear back.

At this point, I live with my boyfriend because it is a roof over my head. My mother sends me money each month that helps me pay bills and have food. I have no car, no other means of money coming in, no TV, and basically no life. I have no self-esteem and no motivation. Everything seems pointless to me. I go nowhere because I have no transportation and no money. I have been to other parts of the world during better parts of my life, South Korea, Germany, Italy, Barbados, and people in those countries seem to have a better life than I do. Sometimes it seems unreal that I am an American!

At 46, I never dreamed my life would ever be like this.

Linda L., via email

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#1708805 - 07/26/11 12:39 PM Re: Long-term Joblessness takes its toll [Re: WeedWitch420.1]
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Thank you WW for that...
This is what I see all around...
Its real and is effecting every single middle class American...

Now compare what I just posted..
The large Cooperation and Businesses have no problem at all with making profits today in the worst economy in American History..

But most of Americans are just like You ,I , and this Teacher..

I to never dreamed either that I would be poor, Damned near lost everything I own.. With Absolutely no way to get back on top...

I am a Disable R@D Engineer for 30yrs and my wife who was a Teacher of 30yr+ are scraping with no hope of change for the better in site...

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#1708807 - 07/26/11 01:06 PM Re: Long-term Joblessness takes its toll [Re: TimJ]
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Here is a prospective from a couple of Brits visiting a Walmart store.
This is more real than Most Americans know..
So with Walmart near you.. How the hell can anyone else compete..
Fact is they cannot...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzj1OF7d9m4

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#1708824 - 07/26/11 03:39 PM Re: Long-term Joblessness takes its toll [Re: TimJ]
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Originally Posted By: TimJ
Here is Bonner..
He act and talks as if he is president..

We all know here that Tax breaks and Government do not create Jobs..
As I have posted... Repukes are playing a Dangerous game with this Country...
The end game is they hate Obama so much, that they will run America Into the Ground to avoid his re election in the next term..
Another fact is small businesses have collapsed with the economy.. The Walmarts of America have taken over and pushed the Mom and Pop shops right out of business.. Mom and Pop cannot compete with Big Cooperation at all..
Repukes are all for this Country going down and they will play the Heros and revamp America to become America Inc....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#43861906


He is second in line if president dies in office after the VP and his position is a lot more in touch with the people than the figurehead president. He controls the purse strings for the budget, in case you haven't noticed. laugh
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#1708845 - 07/26/11 06:09 PM Re: Long-term Joblessness takes its toll [Re: TimJ]
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Originally Posted By: TimJ
With Absolutely no way to get back on top...

scraping with no hope of change for the better in site...



Looks to be a growing trend:

Job listings say the unemployed need not apply

Hundreds of job opening listings posted on Monster.com and other jobs sites explicitly state that people who are unemployed would be less attractive applicants, with some telling the long-term unemployed to not even bother with applying.

The New York Times' Catherine Rampell said she found preferences for the already employed or only recently laid off in listings for "hotel concierges, restaurant managers, teachers, I.T. specialists, business analysts, sales directors, account executives, orthopedics device salesmen, auditors and air-conditioning technicians." Even the massive University of Phoenix stated that preference, but removed the listings when the Times started asking questions.

The concerted shunning of unemployed Americans by prospective employers was a common theme that cropped up in the thousands of responses that poured in when we asked Yahoo! readers to share their experiences of unemployment for our "Down But Not Out" series.

Reader Susan W. said she was being treated "as if it were my fault I was unemployed, regardless of the fact that I had put out hundreds of resumes and applications."

Legal experts told the Times that explicitly barring unemployed people from applying does not qualify under the statutory definition of discrimination, since unemployment is not a federally protected status like age or race. But the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission recently set out to establish whether employers were discriminating against certain protected groups because they are overrepresented in the ranks of the unemployed, such as African-American and older workers. (We covered that meeting here.) New Jersey recently passed a law barring employment ads that seek to rule out applications from those who are unemployed.

Even if the practice of weeding out unemployed applicants doesn't fit the legal definition of discrimination, it sure feels unfair for the more than 6.3 million Americans who have been out of work for more than six months to be told they are automatically disqualified for the few openings that are out there. "I feel like I am being shunned by our entire society," Kelly Wiedemer, an unemployed information technology specialist, told the Times.


From:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/job-listings-unemployed-not-apply-133143362.html
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#1708877 - 07/27/11 08:22 AM Re: Illegal Immigration Issues Don't Justify Biggo [Re: TimJ]
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Im sitting here on the toilet taking a TimJ..got a few minutes 2 burn.

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I live in Pomona Cali.. It was a grand city for over a hundred years... NO more.. Its all gone.. Mexican Gang land now..


Lmao... I thought the mexican immigrants were good for america ?

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We all know here that Tax breaks do not create Jobs..


Lol...really..so tell me, what DOES create jobs, tax hikes?

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The Walmarts of America have taken over and pushed the Mom and Pop shops right out of business.


Those " mom and pop" businesses are the "rich" in the 250,000 bracket that your hero obama wants to tax even more....One minute your against em, and the next minute your standing with them..

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Here is Bonner..
He act and talks as if he is president..


Exactly! We need somebody to take charge and quit blaming bush... And learn to spell u big " R&D engineer" lmao...

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I am a Disable R@D Engineer for 30yrs and my wife who was a Teacher of 30yr+ are scraping with no hope of change for the better in site...


And thats the fault of republicans? After a combined 60 fuckn years u guys have managed 2 save nothing? Perhaps u should spend more time getting your shit together and less time trolling the internet..

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The Religious Right has been one of our Enemies to legalization of Cannabis all along..


Lmfao, "religious right"... I love the terms you use to try to brainwash people.. ...so i guess big pharma has nothing to do with it? And the cotton industry?

Youve been a political shill since your first post when you told everybody "this is why we all need 2 vote democrat"...

Youre just as pathetic as that giraffe necked man- girl u listen to on MSNBC..

Im done wiping the TimJ from my ass...time 2 flush.

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#1708890 - 07/27/11 11:00 AM Re: Illegal Immigration Issues Don't Justify Biggo [Re: 19.5]
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I find it odd you are incapable of typing anything without personal attacks.
You assume what you say is fact.. Just like a TEABAGGER....

I back what I say with links and facts..
You on the other hand troll and just spew shit....

Tea Party Nationalism
Tea Party Leaders Attack Constitution

http://teapartynationalism.com/the-blogb...ck-constitution



Edited by TimJ (07/27/11 11:05 AM)

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#1708894 - 07/27/11 11:25 AM Re: Illegal Immigration Issues Don't Justify Biggo [Re: TimJ]
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Is Washington Broken???
History says NO..
Here is a real prospective:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#43904208

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