House Bill 2388. In Oklahoma will help ensure welfare checks are not being used to pay for drugs. Hard working taxpayers shouldn't be asked to subsidize drug abuse, and this bill will help to ensure they are not," Fallin said in a signing statement.
This problem will never be fixed. Tennessee is said to follow suit this year.
Our 4th amendment is being violated clearly.

Which amounts to unprepared pot smokers being the target.

Well you should be prepared if your looking for assistance that is.

if u dont want the govt peeking into ur life pay ur own bills wish every state did this. while we are at it i think we should test for nicotine why can u use tax dollars to slowly kill yourself. and once u have lung cancer govt healthcare will pay that too. lets not stop anyone who will live off of a govt pension should not be allowed to smoke tobacco

Why don't you just move to a communist country, since that's what you want so badly?

While I feel that no one should be buying recreational substances with welfare, from an economical view the states that have conducted this, it should be noted that the cost of managing and testing far outstrips the amount of money lost from people abusing the system. Put it like this, someone is skimming you of a hundred thousand dollars so your willing to spend a million to NOT catch them AND you still getting skimmed. In addition, given how drug testing works and human biochemistry the people who are busted would be those whose substance of choice had the longest detectability ,ergo cannabis, while most hard drug users can simply go undetected after 2-3 days of not using which means a person could potentially have smoked marijuana weeks prior while a crack user or meth user who IS abusing the system gets by undetected. And so far the percentage of questionable individuals ranges in the 1-2% mark.

So...drug testing for welfare, in practice, only targets pot users with a much lower level of potential abuse, its a waste of money, even more "make work" for an industry that targets pot users as a commodity, reinforces Just Say No unreasonable violation of privacy, is communistic and anti-american.

Supporting this is supporting the mentality and financially supporting the same people who arrest medical marijuana users, the DEA, etc. Drug testing for welfare is just misguided and wrong if you are a cannabis user.

The idea that my 'tax dollars shouldn't go to hard drug users to get high so lets test them' is actually worse than the problem and is pretty much indicative of every aspect of the War on Drugs being "worse than the problem".

Further, the willingness to support this invasive anti-american idea only leads to more invasive anti-american ideas.
Lets test social security beneficiaries for drug use. Lets test people seeking grants and loans for drug use. Lets test people seeking drivers licenses for drug use.
Lets test people seeking insurance coverage for drug use.

These are all natural, logical extensions of the "drug test for work belief" which is now expanding into "drug test for welfare" and if given time and support will only become "drug testing for everything". So supporting this NOW means supporting hurting yourself and others later. Not to mention the hysterical chipping away of the american ideal and adult human sovereignty.

If you want to curb hard drug use, eliminate cannabis from illegal status, that way people have a safer choice that allows them to work and recreate, cheaply and safely.

It is just more of the "punish drug users" mentality, which is why the war on drugs is so hard to end. People who abuse drugs need HELP, not punishment. And people shouldn't be arrested, or punished for smoking pot, for growing pot, or LIKING POT.


Anyone in this website, especially those with medical permission cards, who approves the imprisonment, or punishment of any OTHER member, or any citizen of any country, whose only crime is that individual smokes pot, for ANY REASON, is just a double damned bastid who only wants safety for themselves.

And those with that mindset, karma will come due.

why doesnt every one who wants to live cost free do that go get a job or quit whining if you want to be free and not have the govt interfere in your life dont use the money that other ppl work for as your funds for life. go live in a white trash apt complex for a few months and tell me you still think ppl should still b able to spend thr welfare money on whatever

Dude anger at the few abusers does not justify it, its like bombing ants and missing 99% of the time. And what does white people or color at all have to do with it?

This is a very touchy subject in Canada. You actually have generations living on welfare, were talking 30-40 years, even more in some cases, of service for not just one person but the whole family. Now times that by thoudands of families and you begin to see the picture. Sadly this is just Sask., how many more in the rest of the country?

They require a piss test at a lot of companies before you can EARN a living, why should welfare recipients be any different? This thing called human rights has really lost touch with reality. Where's my rights, I have to take a piss test for my money... why not them?

I understand Big Lungs anger, after almost fifty years of paying my taxes and killing myself making a living for my family and many other families, what do I get when Im sick and can no longer work? Nothing! I don't qualify?? If a man with a mortgage and bills and a family to support with cancer doesn't qualify...who does... I see people with no ailments all their finger and toes trying to trade their checks for a bottle of booze in front of the government run liquor board.

These bleeding hearts only see what they want and throw out shit like "its OUR rights", "what are you a communist?",or "well they have a right to live too". WRONG if a honest hard working person can't get a single penny to save his mortgage due to a community bred disease then why should a healthy young adult that is just PLAIN lazy, because the system has allowed him.

Its time these deadbeats get a wake up call. What needs to happen is anyone that is physically or mentally challanged can recieve full lifetime coverage if needed by their and a doctors request, Everyone else gets needed assistance for a max of 90 days. If they can not support themselves by then, too bad start stepping over them in the streets. Sadly this is the reality of the situation. There is just no money left to support everyone that refuses to take care of their own needs.

Labour camps from the 20-30's sound real good. There is no real insentive for them to get off welfare now, if they were forced to do menial labour for the community for a meger wage it would light a fire under their asses to find a better paying job. There is nothing in place that makes these people want to get off assistance. Look people our societies are in such an economical nightmares that between taxing cannabis sales and tightening up our welfare system, they could go along way in getting all of us out of the hole we are in.

This hole is due to programs like welfare`s mis-management

Its time we started launching boats, leaky ones! They send them in droves our way it time we return the favor.

Sadly O, race and colour should not play a role but it does! Just have a look at who is using the system and who is being denied.

In Canada if your a caucasian male 20-55 you are considered a tax mule and you will not qualify for ANY assistance, even the food bank.

I know first hand and it pissed me off when the social woker basically explained that way! Fucking ridiculous!