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#1743325 - 05/19/12 12:10 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: Old2Soon]
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Because nothing is outlined in the MMAR program for anything except Dried Cannabis only, no extracts, baked goods, etc.
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#1743326 - 05/19/12 12:46 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: PharOG]
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thats right pharog because health canada "re the government" had this whole program shoved up thier blow holes by the courts. they don't give a shit how you spend your last days, writhing in pain or looking for twinkies. maybe, just maybe when they realize that folks can use a cannabis infused cookie at bedtime and getting a good nights sleep is the foundation for healing, and therefore staying a productive tax paying member of harperville, ohh yea, and of course that other stuff like family and kids but our government can't see past those they employ to keep locking up the dying and sick, while releasing the real criminals to continue to wreck havoc because of overcrowding.
i use my medibles as grams per serving of cannabis.
if the cannabis is weak i know by vaping it first and then I adjust how much I use to bake with. ie if 1 gram per cookie is good then I make 28 cookies with an oz, same with brownies number of pieces per amount used in the batter.
i also heat 1 cup butter to melting point only, add at least 1 oz of finely ground meds, and 1/2 cup of water, let it soak up the goodness for about 2 hrs while keeping it below boiling point, then strain it off through a cheesecloth and squeeze it thoroughly. then chill the butter in the fridge (about an hour)
remove the hard butter from the bowl and drain off the water, which can be used in tea's but it is strong remember, the butter can be remelted and stored in muffin cups in the freezer until needed. i mark each batch as to the amount of meds and the effects of those meds so that if I need say an appetite boost next jan i can whip up 20 cookies and take care of myself.
marco juices his meds and thats why the high count and juicing green cannabis does not get you high and requires very high daily grams per. mine is for pain, severe, which at one time I was taking
1000 mg/day of slow release morphine and I cut that by 90% with cannabis. btw the high levels of morphine were under the guidance of a pain specialist in calgary, who also said "why aren't you using cannabis for this?" but he would never sign the dam form so how dare he ask why not?
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#1743337 - 05/19/12 02:44 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: doobiejointed]
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Hey DJ, way to go on replacing most of the morphine with cannabis. It's people like you that inspire me to keep working at this, to lower my own intake of opiates, and to one day be free altogether from that crap.

I do have a question for you: you wrote that you were on 1000mg a day...is that correct ?? I am certainly no pharmacist or doctor, but sadly have become very familiar with all sorts of pain-killers. No one I've known is/was taking a gram of morph a day! Currently I am down to 50 mg a day only a drop of 10mg, but it's a start), and my percocet consumption is reduced from 6-8 to 1-2 a day.

One thing I should add: I am thankful to have these meds, even though I am fighting hard to replace them. Without these pills, I'd probably not be here as living in chronic pain is no picnic.
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#1743338 - 05/19/12 02:56 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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...great tips and baking ideas

Good catch - Marco Renda juices his meds and thats why the high count and juicing green cannabis does not get you high and requires very high daily grams per

Yes, cannabis infused cookies at bedtime and getting a good nights sleep are the foundation for healing, and therefore staying functional and productive - is what it`s all about

Where in beautiful BC can I find the best selection of hash brownies and space cakes...?

I may have to move to BC to escape Ontario`s version of harperville



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#1743349 - 05/19/12 06:59 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: Old2Soon]
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In our trial the crown admitted someone has a licence to use 750 grams a day. Not sure who that is but I think a reality tv show watching them consume that much every day would be popular.

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#1743383 - 05/20/12 12:48 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: Ted Smith]
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Originally Posted By: Ted Smith
In our trial the crown admitted someone has a licence to use 750 grams a day. Not sure who that is but I think a reality tv show watching them consume that much every day would be popular.
What would be popular about watching someone medicate themselves on a daily basis? Not sure about you but I would not find it interesting reality tv to watch some sick people rubbing lotions and salves on their aching bodies while smoking joints or the really fun sport of watching someone chew a brownie.

You turning their medicinal need into a viewing sport is part of the stigma that patients encounter every day and what I would like to see stopped, especially from people in a position like you are in.

Please, stop for a moment and think how it would be if someone were to question the level of need of your beloved partner and to imply that watching her medicate all day would somehow be funny and worth showing to millions of ignorant viewers around the globe because she had a need greater than any other.

Not a show I would be interested in at all.

My experience tells me that people do not smoke their daily limits when the limit is really high such as this case. One person could not consume that many grams by smoking it unless they are being VERY wasteful and at the cost of production I highly doubt that would be the case. They would be smoking some and using the rest in other preparations.

In these cases the patients are using a variety of ways to get their medicine in. They make extracts and bake cookies and brownies or they make teas and lotions and salves. Juicing fresh leaves takes an enormous amount of product and will require very large gardens.

Sometimes they are the very small percentage of growers who are diverting to the black market. Sometimes, but I believe most people are doing the right thing and not compromising the program for their own benefit.

For sure, the sick people who are treating themselves everyday do not need to be judged for the amount of medicine they consume in their personal pursuit of a pain-free life and they should not be lumped in with the very small percent of people who are using the system to their own advantage.

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#1743388 - 05/20/12 02:04 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: cannagirl420]
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Loc: ON
...here is the Jeremiah & Marco Renda interview from FRI 18th

Cannabis Culture News LIVE: The 3rd-Annual Treating

Marco Renda interview starts at 28:10 minutes

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#1743430 - 05/21/12 11:18 AM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: Old2Soon]
Old2Soon Offline
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Loc: ON
...at 29:44 mins a clip of the 2011 Expo - Matt Mernagh intro

...at 35:21 mins it goes to live telephone Jeremiah & Marco Renda interview from FRI 18th

...at 40:15 mins Marco yaks about Dr William Cortney raw jucing article in his current Treating Yourself publication

Who is Dr William Cortney and why should we care...?

Dr. William Courtney of Cannabis Science’s scientific advisory board -AND- expert in CBD juicing helps cancer patients make informed choices regarding treatments

Small Community Cancer Cure Crushed by Big Pharma, Part I

power of raw cannabis

Juicing Raw Cannabis for Greater Health

Should cannabidiol (CBD) be a medical option?

...at 40:30 mins Marco yaks about Dr William Cortney - would prescribe at least 3-times that amount on a daily use (if Marco lived in the US)

Questions -

Where is the Health Canada MMAR science to support 300+ grams per day of medical marijuana for raw jucing...?

Is Marco's current MMAR license of 120+ grams per day for raw jucing -- half-full or half-empty...?

...listen to the clip again at 40:30 mins

If someone in Ontario has cancer and wants to get 300+ grams per day of medical marijuana for raw jucing - can they get a MMAR license...?



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#1743433 - 05/21/12 12:58 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: Old2Soon]
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...here's the skinny on Cannabis Science

- both psycho and non-psychoactive products with demonstrated therapeutic efficacy for these globally important illnesses will facilitate entry first into the Canadian marketplace. Proven efficacy in the Canadian market should then open the US and global markets.

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#1743446 - 05/21/12 05:11 PM Re: MMAR grams per day limits...? [Re: Old2Soon]
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Loc: ON

Washington Post - Dr William Cortney

Form of medical marijuana won't get you high, but it's creating a buzz

The singular peculiarity of Courtney's "pot doc" practice here in Northern California
is what he recommends: - Don't smoke the stuff, he tells patients eat the stuff.

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