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#1741449 - 05/01/12 12:34 AM Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism [Re: onegreenday]
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"Prove USA involvement in the Nakba."

"January 13, 1948. Washington. The U.S. War Assets Administration received orders from Army Secretary Kenneth Royal to cancel its sale of 199 tons of M-3 explosive to a purchasing agent of the Jewish Agency, which got 73 tons out of the country before the rest was seized."

"April 1, 1948, New York The UN found that it had transversed a circle – from one special General Assembly session to another – in its year-long effort to solve the Palestine problem. Britain referred the Holy Land dispute to the UN April 2, 1947, and asked for a special Assembly session, Events since then:

April 28-May 15, 1947. Assembly met, decided on special committee inquiry into the Palestine situation.

August 31. Special Palestine Committee (UNSCOP) recommended partition, internationalized Jerusalem.

November 29. Assembly approved partition, 33-13 (10 abstentions): U.S. led the fight for a separate Jewish state. Intensified Arab-Jewish fighting in Palestine."

http://www.al-nakba-history.com/origins1948/unterrorismchronology.html


Hmmm. They allowed 73 tonnes of explosives and "led the fight for a separate Jewish state." You still going to argue the US had nothing to do with the Nakba, or are you now arguing that Truman was Jewish?

Wait ... there's more.

Israel had to pay for all those explosives - the US helped them out in 1949 with a 100 million dollars:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/U.S._Assistance_to_Israel1.html

"Though the Nakba refers to the events of 1948, their continued salience due to the irresolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has prompted Palestinians like Mahmoud Darwish to describe the Nakba as, "an extended present that promises to continue in the future."[7]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba_Day

According to the above source (and the source below), the Nakba is not an event of 1948, but rather is ongoing ... so US involvement can't be denied:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/download/NakbaTrifold-sml.pdf

Of course, to you hating on Jews - not zionists or oil companies or military men or US politicians - is your focus, so you will ignore the above evidence and carry on with your Jew hate.
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#1741457 - 05/01/12 04:40 AM Jewish Extremism [Re: davidmalmolevine]
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Name the person and the crime of the Nakba of which you speak.

I proved my thread accurate and exposed Jewish Extremism
which even the former leader of Shin Bet agrees.

Only you call it 'hate' to expose the truth
except the truth (sic) you desire to expose.

Here's more Jewish Extremism for you. It's called
ethnic cleansing,occupation, apartheid and land theft.

All International War Crimes.

Where's you call for their prosecution DML?

Renounce 'ethnic cleansing' & genocide please,
for Palestinians.

Prove my posts are not Jewish Extremism
or stay off my thread. Thank you

I modified the thread title
for Max Blumenthal (and DML).

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/238851.html


Israeli military building wall along Lebanon border
Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:1PM GMT
The Israeli military has begun building a wall along part of its border with Lebanon to avoid what it called ''frictions'' in the area.


According to Israeli sources, the cement wall would be several meters high and intended to protect the recently-constructed settler units in the Israeli border town of Metulla from fire coming from the Lebanese side.

It is expected to take several weeks to build the wall, which would be more than 1km long. An Israeli security fence already runs along the entire border.

"This construction, which began on Monday, is being carried out in coordination with UNIFIL (the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon) and the Lebanese army. The wall is intended to avoid frictions on the border," an Israeli military spokeswoman said.

The Lebanese Army and UNIFIL troops, responsible for coordinating security along the Lebanese border, maintained a heavy presence in the area as the Israeli military started the project. Israel and Lebanon are technically in state of war.

The Israeli military invaded Lebanon in July 2006 with the intention of eliminating the resistance movement, Hezbollah.

The invasion, also known as the 33-Day War, took the lives of at least 1,200 Lebanese most of them civilians.

Hezbollah, however, inflicted heavy losses on Israeli forces and Tel Aviv faced a humiliating defeat without having achieved any of its objectives.


Related Stories:

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#1741524 - 05/01/12 02:37 PM Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism [Re: onegreenday]
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"No. A link to the poll of americans you mention here:
"than americans in general"
the Jewish Poll is alarming but I want
to compare it to the above."

- fair enough...48% of jewish americans support the formation of a palestinian state in the poll i already provided

and

only 42% of americans in general support the formation of a palestinian state according to a poll recently conducted by PEW...however, 32% of americans had no opinion on the issue of pali-statehood, probably because it had not been spoonfed to them earlier that day:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/behi...t1oiK_blog.html


why do you find the jewish poll alarming?

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#1741525 - 05/01/12 02:41 PM Re: Jewish Extremism [Re: onegreenday]
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"Name the person and the crime of the Nakba of which you speak."

Because Nakba is ongoing, it would be every President since Truman as well as every US Secretary of State and every US ambassador to Israel since 1948, as they have all given Israel aid in, without which Israel would not have been able to commit their crimes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman#Recognition_of_Israel

The particular crime in question is "crime against peace", which you would have known if you had bothered to read my previous posts. I will repost it again so you might learn something about the International Law you keep talking about:

In 1950, the Nuremberg Tribunal defined Crimes against Peace, in Principle VI, specifically Principle VI(a), submitted to the United Nations General Assembly, as:[9][10]
(i) Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances;
(ii) Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned under (i).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_aggression#The_Nuremberg_Principles


"I proved my thread accurate and exposed Jewish Extremism
which even the former leader of Shin Bet agrees."

It's Israeli/Zionist extremism, not Jewish extremism, as these Jews are trying to get you to understand, with little success:

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

"Here's more Jewish Extremism for you. It's called
ethnic cleansing,occupation, apartheid and land theft."

That's Israeli/Zionist extremism.

"Oh, it is sad, very sad, that once more, for the umpteenth time, the old truth is confirmed: 'What one Christian does is his own responsibility, what one Jew does is thrown back at all Jews.'"
- Anne Frank

"Prove my posts are not Jewish Extremism
or stay off my thread. Thank you"

Prove it? I will, but you will of course ignore the proof.

READ THE FOLLOWING YOU RACIST PIECE OF SHIT. Thank you.


A Jew is one who remains faithful to the laws of the Jewish religion, that is, the Holy Torah and its commandments.
The Jewish people became a people before they had their own land, and continued to exist as a people also after they went Into exile, because our very people hood is based exclusively on the Torah.

The Holy Land was given to the Jewish people on the condition that they observe the Torah and its commandments. When they failed to do this, their sovereignty over the land was taken from them, and they went into exile. From that time, we are prohibited by the Torah with a very grave prohibition to establish a Jewish independent sovereignty in the Holy Land or anywhere throughout the world. Rather, we are obligated to be loyal to the nations under whose protection we dwell.
This situation has existed for close to 2000 years when the Jewish people were dispersed throughout all corners of the world. During this time, the Jews always remained faithful to the country in which they lived.
The Jewish people are grateful to all those merciful nations which have allowed them to observe Torah and the commandments undisturbed.
From ancient times, the relations between the Jewish and Islamic peoples have always been those of peace and brotherhood, and friendship always reigned between them. The proof of this is the fact that for centuries, in all the Arab lands, hundreds of thousands of Jews lived in honor and amidst mutual esteem.
Jews throughout all generations yearned to grace the sacred soil of the Holy Land and to live there. However, their sole purpose was to fulfill the commandments dependent upon the land and to absorb Its holiness. Never, G-d forbid, did they have any nationalist or sovereign intent whatsoever which, as mentioned above, is forbidden to us. Indeed, also here in the Holy Land, our fathers lived in neighborly harmony with the Palestinian residents of the land, helping one another, to mutual benefit.
Until about two hundred years ago, the vast majority of Jews observed the Torah and the commandments in entirety. Jewry's leaders were Torah scholars, who directed the people according to the Torah. They were loyal citizens in the host nations where they dwelled and to the local laws. They prayed for the welfare of their respective governments. To our sorrow, at that time a small number of Jews slowly left their observance of Torah and commandments. Together with this, they began to deride the spiritual leadership of their people. This assimilation was the basis upon which, one hundred years ago, the ideology of Zionism was born. Its founders were assimilated Jews who had abandoned the Torah.
Immediately at the founding of the Zionist movement, masses of Jews under the leadership of their Rabbis, launched a heavy battle against Zionism. Their attack was directed not only at the non-religious Zionist idea, but rather, primarily at its opposition to the Torah-ordained path that Jewry must follow while in exile. As such, the Zionists incited the nations of the world, demanding political sovereignty over the Holy Land while remaining oblivious to the resentment this would arouse In the Palestinian Arabs, the land's veteran inhabitants. As stated, the leaders of Orthodox Jewry vehemently opposed the movement with all force.
The Zionists refused to heed the voice of the Rabbis and Torah authority. They persisted in their ways until they succeeded in influencing the British government to issue the Balfour Declaration concerning the "establishment of a national home for the Jews in the land of Israel." To our great sorrow, from that point on began the deterioration of the good relations between the Jews and the Arab inhabitants of the land. This occurred because the Arab people understood that the Zionists wished to seize ruler ship from them. In addition, the Arab people had suspicions as if the Jewish people wished to seize control of the Temple Mount and other similar sites. Matters worsened as a result.
The Jewish leadership of that time saw it as proper to clarify before the Arab leaders that the Torah-true Jews had no desire whatsoever for sovereignty, and that our desire was to continue to live in peace with the Arabs, as we had always done. The leader of the G-d-fearing Jewish community at that time, Rabbi Yoseph Chaim Zonnenfeld. of blessed memory, organized a delegation in July of 24' which visited King Hussein and his sons Faisal the King of Iraq and the Amir Abdullah In order to lucidly present to them the position of the G-d-fearing Jewish community. The Jewish delegation clarified unequivocally that Torah Jewry is totally opposed to the Zionist sovereignty over the Holy Land. It Is worth noting that the delegation was received with great honor. They were even assured that all Arab lands were completely open to Jews, however, on the condition that the Jews do not demand political rights. This condition also applied to the Holy Land. One of the members of the Jewish delegation, Professor Yisroel Yaakov De Haan, paid with his life for his participation.
Torah Jewry protests at every opportunity against the Zionist rule over the Holy Land, and the Zionist rebellion against the neighboring nations. Torah Jewry has condemned the Zionist oppression of the Palestinians, the land's veteran inhabitants who have been driven from their homes and properties. The Zionists' barbaric and violent deeds are absolutely antithetical to the essence of the Jewish people.
Torah Jewry has never ever recognized the Zionist state. Since the Zionists succeeding in establishing their state, Torah Jewry has continuously announced to the world that the Zionists do not represent the Jewish people, and that the name "Israel" that they use is a forgery. For as has been stated above, it is forbidden to us from the Torah to rebel against the nations, and all sovereignty by us is prohibited. Rather, we await the days when all the world will recognize the sovereignty of the Creator, and the words of the prophet Isaiah will yet be fulfilled: "And they will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. No nation will lift its sword against any other, nor will they learn warfare anymore."
Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews have refrained to this day from taking any funds from the Zionist regime, whether for their educational institutions, synagogues or other benefits. Obviously, they do not participate in the Zionist elections, whether for the "Knesset" or for the municipality. We do not serve in their army, and we even avoid speaking in the Hebrew language that the Zionists Invented. (incidentally, this is not the holy and true Hebrew language in which the Bible is written.) All this is done because Torah Jewry does not recognize the Zionist regime, which Is against the Torah and against humanity.
Lately, the question has once again arisen concerning the Temple Mount and sovereignty over it. Thus, we wish to state unequivocally: a) In our time, it is a severe Torah prohibition for any Jew to set foot on any part of the Temple Mount area. b) The Jewish people have no claim whatsoever to sovereignty over this holy site, which is under Islamic authority, nor over any other holy site. Rabbi Zonenfeld was once asked, "is it true, that the Rabbi prefers an non-Jewish government over all of the Holy Land"? Rabbi Zonenfeld replied, "if King Hussein would rule over Palestine, the holiness of the Holy Land would not be diminished to even to an Iota degree". We yearningly await G-d's great day, when He will return His Divine Presence to Zion, restoring the holy city to its former holiness and glory as in days of old, to be a light to the peoples and the nations.
The Zionists have no right of any sovereignty over even one inch of the Holy Land. They do not represent the Jewish people in any way whatsoever. They have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people. Therefore, their words, declarations and actions are not in any way representative of the Jewish people. This is because the Zionists' seizing of power over the Holy Land is antithetical to Jewish law, and also because the Zionists do not behave like Jews at all rather, they desecrate the sanctity of the land.
We once again clarify that it is our desire to live in peace with our Arab and Palestinian neighbors, as we did before the Zionist revolution, and as Jews all over the world till today live, accepting the yoke of rulership of their host nation, with complete loyalty. Our sole desire is to serve our G-d and to fulfill His commandments with a perfect heart and to delight in the radiance of the sanctity of the Land.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/notjews.cfm
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#1741561 - 05/02/12 02:40 AM Jewish Extremism [Re: slartibartfast]
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It's alarming because it does not ask American Jews
about the crimes of the Nakba and
how they should be litigated.

2. Alarming because it does not ask about the Right of Return (International Law)

3. Alarming because it does not ask about equal rights for non-Jews in Israel.

4. Alarming because it does not ask about reparations
for Palestinians.

5. Alarming because it does not ask if Israel is an 'apartheid' regime.

I describe below as Extremist Jewish behavior. I wont go as far as Shin Bet and call it Messianic but it may come under the umbrella.

PS: There are anti war Jewish groups that say "not in our name".; they desire to separate themselves from Israel's crimes and it's important to distinguish extremist Jewish behavior for them for which they want no part (such as the article above)

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/239041.html

Israel envoy secretly pushes EU over P5+1 talks:

Report
Tue May 1, 2012 3:45PM GMT

Israel’s National Security Adviser Yaakov Amidror is reportedly conducting clandestine negotiations with European officials in an attempt to sway Brussels over the upcoming round of talks between Iran and the six world powers.


Amidror arrived in Brussels on Monday and met Helga Schmid, EU’s deputy secretary general for political affairs, who is in charge of coordinating preparatory talks between Iran and the P5+1 - permanent members of the UN Security Council plus Germany -- ahead of the next round of talks in the Iraqi capital city, Baghdad, on May 23, Ha’aretz reported.

The top Israeli security official will continue his meetings with other European officials on Tuesday and will head for Germany on Wednesday where he is expected to meet with his German counterpart Christoph Heusgen, and Berlin’s representative for Baghdad talks, Hans-Dieter Lucas.

Tel Aviv has declined to comment on the report.

A senior Israeli official has described Amidror’s Europe tour as "extremely sensitive.” He said the visits are aimed at obtaining more information about the contents of the previous round of talks in the Turkish city of Istanbul and knowing the P5+1’s strategy about the Baghdad meeting.

The representatives of Iran as well as the P5+1 resumed their talks over Tehran’s nuclear energy program at a meeting in Istanbul on April 14. Both sides expressed contentment with the general atmosphere of the negotiations.

Two weeks ago, Amidror had made another visit to Russia’s capital city, Moscow, to hold similar talks with the Russian officials, including Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

During the meeting Lavrov warned Israel against the catastrophic ramification of any military adventurism against Iran and lauded Tehran’s “positive attitude” during the Istanbul talks.

The report pointed out that Amidror’s visits to Europe and Russia reflect Tel Aviv’s concerns over the promising prospect of the Iran-P5+1 talks.

The US, Israel and some of their allies accuse Tehran of pursuing military objectives in its nuclear energy program.

Iran has repeatedly dismissed allegations over its nuclear activities, arguing that as a committed signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency, it has the right to use nuclear technology for peaceful purposes.


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Edited by onegreenday (05/02/12 02:54 AM)
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#1741575 - 05/02/12 05:48 AM Jewish Extremism [Re: onegreenday]
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Dershowitz on Atzmon @ Jpost Conference NYC 29.4.12

Dershowitz wants to ban Atzmon from speaking.
Pretty 'extreme' I'd say.
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