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#1741170 - 04/28/12 02:09 PM Re: How do you make your hash ? [Re: smokum]
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this is such a huge topic i feel like i left out SOOOOOOOO much.

yes, i've ran bubble hash material (that was already extracted) threw the butane extractor & came back with a massive yield & here is why.

trichomes are made of resin, surrounded by a wax coating, & grown on a stalk made of cellulose. the resin is the ONLY active part of the trichome, so we try to collect those by separation. well in order to separate the the resin head from the plant matter, the screen is of a certain size that is small enough for the trichome head, the trichome stalk, & very small plant matter to fit threw. this is where grading hash comes into play.

when you have a pile of keif/dry sift or bubble hash, you have a various mixture of trichomes heads, stems, & hopefully minimal plant matter. when your hash burns instead of melting, it is dominant in trichome stalks made of cellulose, plant matter, or a combination of the two. when it strictly melts, the mixture is more dominant in resin heads which are coated in wax & contain all the psychoactive properties.
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Grading Hash
The grades of hashish are as follows: 00 (Zero Zero), 0, 1,2,3. Zero Zero is by far the purest form of hashish and comes from plants that have high levels of THC in conjunction with a good hash-making technique. Sometimes the technique may be good but the levels of THC in the plant are low. This may produce a hash grade of two or three.

The quality of the resin glands will determine the quality of the hash that you will smoke. This is calculated based on the simple ratio of cannabinoids to vegetable material. In Morocco, 00 is used to describe hash that has the highest level of cannabinoids to vegetable material achieved by the extraction process. You can well imagine that this is the finest resin available compressed into hashish.

~Greg Green "The Cannabis Grow Bible"


see when the material is only sifted, there are remaining resins that will only come off with more agitation, which will bring on more green plant matter as well. when making an oil extraction, it strips the wax coating off the trichome,the solvent absorbs the oil/resin inside, and leaves the trichome stem where it was.

bubble hash and druy sift are both separations.... making oil is an extraction.
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#1741342 - 04/30/12 03:07 AM Re: How do you make your hash ? [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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Call me oldfashion_ _I've tried BUBBLE BAGS and prefer my homemade Kief Wheel.It rotates about 5 RPM and takes 6-8 hrs. to make a nice pile.

Patience is a virtue_ _so I've heard.
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#1741355 - 04/30/12 08:18 AM Re: How do you make your hash ? [Re: halphdunn]
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i know what you mean,mine turns at 3 rpm.
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#1741484 - 05/01/12 09:30 AM Re: How do you make your hash ? [Re: wohlandr]
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A kief wheel eh...sounds intriguing! (have to google this later).

Blender hash is simply adding ice water to your trimmings and using a blender to macerate it. Let sit, pour off the excess water, pass the green stuff through a coffee filter, dry, and voila.

Just set up my first QWISO wash. Will let you know how it went.

Thanks for reading.
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#1741493 - 05/01/12 10:47 AM Re: How do you make your hash ? [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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blender hash is GARBAGE green stuff is chlorophyll. kief is ok but u also get the dust pollen or bug eggs that might be in your crop in thr so IMO bubble or BHO>>>>>everything

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#1741516 - 05/01/12 01:19 PM Re: How do you make your hash ? [Re: Big Lungs]
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Thanks BL, but I do realize the green is chlorophyll. Why do you say blender is garbage ? Pardon me for asking, but have you tried making blender hash yourself ? As I have not (yet) I can only go by what I've read or been told and, for the most part, people who make use of the ice method are happy with the results.

Not keen on BHO primarily due to the cost involved.

Just set up my first quiso run smile Have about 400ml of iso evaporating with the aid of a fan - used finely chopped bud for this attempt, not trimmings or popcorn. In your experience, is it worth doing a second or third run with the same material ?
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#1741534 - 05/01/12 04:04 PM Re: How do you make your hash ? [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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Seems I was misinformed. OG has set me straight on the cost of BHO - someone had told me it used up a lot of butane, e.g. 6-8 cans for a singe run! Just goes to show, always get a second opinion!

So, will be picking up a couple of cans and trying it out..can't wait! woohoo!!

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#1741613 - 05/02/12 09:57 AM Re: How do you make your hash ? [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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Originally Posted By: Doobie_Brother
Thanks BL, but I do realize the green is chlorophyll. Why do you say blender is garbage ? Pardon me for asking, but have you tried making blender hash yourself ? As I have not (yet) I can only go by what I've read or been told and, for the most part, people who make use of the ice method are happy with the results.

Not keen on BHO primarily due to the cost involved.




never tried a blender hash since i only use a spoon to stir my bubble since a drill or mixer is to much agitation IMO

butane costs 1.99-2.99 a can not to expensive IMO

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#1742048 - 05/04/12 06:53 AM Re: How do you make your hash ? [Re: Big Lungs]
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BigLungs, that is where I was misinformed, i.e. the cost and number of butane cans needed. $2 or $3 a can is cheaper than iso!

The issue I read and hear about time and again is how to separate trichs from everything else. There is a fine line between too much and too little agitation... Hand in hand with this is how 'pure' or clean you want your hash to be. I've even heard one very experienced grower say BHO is too dirty for him, as it includes plant waxes and other undesirables dissolved by the solvent.

Reminds me of similar differences of opinions on such important topics as which browser is best (and we all know Opera is the answer to that one!).
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#1742056 - 05/04/12 08:24 AM Re: How do you make your hash ? [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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Originally Posted By: Doobie_Brother
I've even heard one very experienced grower say BHO is too dirty for him, as it includes plant waxes and other undesirables dissolved by the solvent.

Only when improperly purged.

I always wash my BHO with 95% ethanol. While butane will dissolve lipids and waxes, ethanol OTOH won't. The second extraction leaves the insolubles suspended in solution for easy filtering. Some people re-dissolve their BHO, but I kill two birds with one stone and add the ethanol before all of the butane has evaporated off. For a final purge, vac/heat/vac.

IME hash doesn't get much cleaner.
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