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#1740353 - 04/21/12 10:25 AM Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism [Re: onegreenday]
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Mr Hand , your post is off-topic.

Start your own thread on Iran;
which will have nothing nasty
compared to the Israeli nazi regime.



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Edited by onegreenday (04/21/12 10:36 AM)
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#1740368 - 04/21/12 12:07 PM Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism [Re: onegreenday]
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Maybe you missed my question ... so I will repeat it until you answer it.

"Nothing Abbas does negates the right of return."

Where does he do this?
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#1740370 - 04/21/12 12:16 PM Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism [Re: davidmalmolevine]
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Abbas is off-topic and I already answered
but you don't like what I taught you.

TOPIC Jewish Extremism (not Abbass)

==

Abbas does not speak for Palestine
a unity government does not speak for Palestine.

Israel keeps the diaspora out of Palestinian
politics;
since they have no 'right to return' to Palestine to participate.
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#1740380 - 04/21/12 01:40 PM Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism [Re: onegreenday]
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http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/jewish-extremists-scrawl-death-christians-price-tag-attack

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Jewish extremists scrawl "death to Christians" in 'price tag' attack
Israeli police officers stand with a priest beside a car that was sprayed with graffiti outside the Monastery of the Cross, which was also defaced with graffiti, in Jerusalem 7 February 2012. (Photo: Reuters - Baz Ratner)

Published Tuesday, February 7, 2012

A Palestinian monastery in Jerusalem, built on the spot where, according to tradition, the tree from which Jesus's cross was made once sat, was defaced with graffiti bearing the hallmarks of militant Jewish settlers, police said on Tuesday.

"Death to Christians" was daubed in Hebrew on the outer walls of the Monastery of the Cross, an 11th century fortress-like holy site situated in a valley overlooked by Israel's parliament.

Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said the words "Price Tag" were also painted overnight by the vandals, who damaged two cars parked outside the monastery in a rare attack on a Christian shrine in Jerusalem.

The slogan, used by Jewish extremists in vandalism attacks on Palestinian mosques, churches, and homes in the occupied West Bank, refers to the retribution they say they will exact for any attempt by the Israeli government to curb illegal settlement in the territory.

"I am a priest and I forgive," Father Claudio of the monastery, which is administered by the Greek Orthodox church, told Reuters.

Rosenfeld said police had opened an investigation.

In January, Israel barred 12 Jewish extremists involved in such attacks from entering the West Bank for up to a year, none of whom were detained or imprisoned.

The move appears to have had no effect on reducing Jewish extremist violence.

Israeli officials regularly condemn such attacks, but rarely arrests the perpetrators.

Jewish settlements in the West Bank are illegal under international law, but construction continues to the detriment of the indigenous Palestinian population.

Israel has maintained a military occupation of the West Bank since 1967, and imposes strict conditions on native Palestinians while the settler community enjoys a number of privileges, including Jewish-only roads.

The Jewish state also maintains a siege on Gaza.

(Al-Akhbar, Reuters)
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#1740449 - 04/22/12 01:38 PM Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism [Re: onegreenday]
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"Abbas is off-topic and I already answered
but you don't like what I taught you."

Off topic?

The topic was picked by you. You said:

"We all no it can't be a 2-state solution."

Then I said:

"Tell that to the Arabs who came up with this two-state solution solution:"

"The initiative attempts to end the Arab–Israeli conflict, which means NORMALIZING RELATIONSHIPS between the entire Arab region and ISRAEL, in exchange for a complete withdrawal from the occupied territories (including East Jerusalem) and a "just settlement" of the Palestinian refugee crisis based on UN Resolution 194 (which calls for a diplomatic resolution to the conflict and resolves that any refugees "wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors" should be able to do so or if they otherwise wish to be provided with compensation).[2]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative

"They live in the region ... you don't."

Then you said:

"Only Palestinians speak for Palestine"

Then I pointed out that:

"The Palestinian Authority strongly supports the plan and Mahmoud Abbas officially asked U.S. President Barack Obama to adopt it as part of his Middle East policy.[6]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative

So far, all of this is on topic.

You just can't handle the fact that Palestinians want a two-state solution, so you label "off topic" any evidence of that being the case. Then you can focus on your "revenge solution" as the only solution.

But you don't live in Palestine. You live in "Pawtucket, RI" - so it's a bit stupid of you to speak for people who actually live there while ignoring the wishes of their representatives. You still haven't even proved that the Arab Peace Proposal doesn't include a right of return ... you instead focus on your vary narrow definition of what topic you are prepared to discuss - Jewish (not Israeli) extremism that only involves Israelis so you can paint all Jews with the same brush.
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#1740458 - 04/22/12 05:24 PM Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism [Re: davidmalmolevine]
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Abbas claims the PLO represent the Diaspora.

The Diaspora says Abbas cannot claim statehood
for them.

Nobody can represent the Diaspora. Not Hamas or
the PLO.

The Diaspora has the legal 'right of return'
and until they return to their 'rightful' homes

and can participate in their own
self-determination;

there are no 'legitimate'
agreements with anybody.
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#1740472 - 04/22/12 09:54 PM Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism [Re: onegreenday]
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Sources, please.

For someone who calls me a "NAZI", forgive me if I can't take your word about these things.
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#1740473 - 04/22/12 09:56 PM Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism [Re: onegreenday]
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Also, Abbas supports the Arab Peace Agreement - and the Arab Peace Agreement supports the Palestinian "right of return" - contrary to your assertions:

"...and resolves that any refugees "wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors" should be able to do so or if they otherwise wish to be provided with compensation).[2]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative
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#1740489 - 04/23/12 04:45 AM Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism [Re: davidmalmolevine]
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If the jack-boot fits;
u must wear it.

To attain spiritual freedom you must:

1. RENOUNCE the crimes of the Nakba

2. Call for the arrest & trial of the Zionist
criminals of the Nakba

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine. By Ilan Pappe

3. Call for the immediate "right of return" for
the entire Diaspora to the places of their origin.

4. Acknowledge that all accords, agreements, signed under expulsion and occupation are invalid.

5. Call for free and fair elections in Palestine by all Palestinians of the NEW Israel/Palestine (name to be determined)

Forget about Abbas David. u r blowing smoke;
better to hold it in.

It's not possible to represent a Diaspora under expulsion. Whatever he claims for the PLO.

Just ask the Palestinian Diaspora.

It's not possible to have a 'voice'
when your jack-boot is on their throats.

Originally Posted By: davidmalmolevine
Sources, please.

For someone who calls me a "NAZI", forgive me if I can't take your word about these things.



Edited by onegreenday (04/23/12 05:09 AM)
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#1740608 - 04/24/12 12:35 AM Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism [Re: onegreenday]
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The Arab Peace agreement is a solution which includes the right of return, and is supported by 21 leaders of the Arab League:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Arab_League_summit

Your "spiritual freedom" plan is endorsed by who?

"It's not possible to represent a Diaspora under expulsion."

Who came up with your "five point spiritual freedom" plan, then? Isn't that five point plan an attempt to do exactly that - represent the wishes of the Diaspora?

Are you actually making the argument that "the Arabs who live in the region don't know what they're talking about, it's up to a guy from Pawtucket, RI to determine what is best for the Palestinians"?

Your five point plan seems reasonable, but it also seems those who actually live in the region favor what is practical over what is reasonable:

In a 2007 poll, over one quarter of the Palestinian respondents in the West Bank and Gaza Strip rejected both a binational and two state solution; 46% preferred the two-state solution, and 26% preferred the binational solution.[2] The two-state solution also enjoys majority support in Israeli polls although there has been some erosion to its prospects over time.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution


Given the fact that the two state solution has the most support of any solution, wouldn't it be better to achieve that - complete with the "right of return" found in the Arab Peace Plan - than to enact the revenge solution you say is the only solution?
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