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#1737707 - 03/26/12 12:13 PM
Re: Designated Grower assistance
[Re: WeedWitch420.1]
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Registered: 04/12/09
Posts: 117
Loc: Lotusland
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The way "I" see it... if it's classified as an actual "medicine".. then our medical system MUST pay for it. They'll pay for codeine, and any other "opiates". To make us pay for medicinal cannabis in that case would violate our rights and freedoms.
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#1737712 - 03/26/12 12:46 PM
Re: Designated Grower assistance
[Re: Spuzzum]
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Registered: 01/05/12
Posts: 15
Loc: Toronto Ontario Canada
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Yeah I actually tried 2-3 years ago to get them to pay for my medicine through insurance. Because it didn't have a DIN (Drug Identification Number) no insurance company would cover it. Ontario works was going to cover the Health Canada supply but then that is pretty shitty to begin with and I ended up finding employment last minute.
Edited by Ivan420 (03/26/12 12:46 PM)
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#1737797 - 03/27/12 07:17 AM
Re: Designated Grower assistance
[Re: Ivan420]
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Registered: 04/12/09
Posts: 117
Loc: Lotusland
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They wouldn't cover it, because it's illegal still. Once it's re-classified as an actual medicine.. then that opens the doors "legally" for doctors to prescribe, and insurance companies would then have no reason to deny.
I can't remember the Province, but there's been at least 1 patient who had their grow equipment paid for after a fight. Was given a personal production license, but couldn't afford the equipment.
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#1737963 - 03/28/12 10:32 AM
Re: Designated Grower assistance
[Re: Sir.Ganga]
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Registered: 08/14/04
Posts: 416
Loc: Lotusland
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Canna you mentioned giving my additional meds to a compassion club. I would like it if you gave some info on who to talk too. I need to know its going for patients and not being sold under the table like I see happenning at the compassion clubs. This statement confuses me... Even IF Cannabis DID come in the doors of a dispensary for free, it would still be impossible for them to provide it free to their members! How would they pay for: - the building - utilities - staff - scales - safes - security - etc., etc., etc. The Cannabis doesn't just magically have a safe & secure place to be stored, packaged, & distributed. It ALL takes money.I would give ALL my excess to a compassion club at no cost but would need assurances that people in need get it not some junky off the street.
There's the rub with compassion. Hmm.... Doesn't sound very compassionate to deny ANYONE the benefits of Cannabis. Those so-called "junkies" are human beings, just like you and me. Why is it, only some deserve your "compassion"? I have seen several, as you would term, "junkies" turn into healthy, productive members of society with the aid of Cannabis! I would think that they, if anyone, would need our compassion. By the way My patients refuse to take handouts, so we have come up with a 3 way pay on my power bill. Seems more than fair to me.
Vaper Sounds like they know, there is no such thing as a "free ride". If someone is getting something for nothing, someone else is paying for it. Period.
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#1738002 - 03/28/12 05:16 PM
Re: Designated Grower assistance
[Re: W/O Reason]
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Registered: 04/12/09
Posts: 117
Loc: Lotusland
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Canna you mentioned giving my additional meds to a compassion club. I would like it if you gave some info on who to talk too. I need to know its going for patients and not being sold under the table like I see happenning at the compassion clubs. This statement confuses me... Even IF Cannabis DID come in the doors of a dispensary for free, it would still be impossible for them to provide it free to their members! How would they pay for: - the building - utilities - staff - scales - safes - security - etc., etc., etc. The Cannabis doesn't just magically have a safe & secure place to be stored, packaged, & distributed. It ALL takes money.I would give ALL my excess to a compassion club at no cost but would need assurances that people in need get it not some junky off the street.
There's the rub with compassion. Hmm.... Doesn't sound very compassionate to deny ANYONE the benefits of Cannabis. Those so-called "junkies" are human beings, just like you and me. Why is it, only some deserve your "compassion"? I have seen several, as you would term, "junkies" turn into healthy, productive members of society with the aid of Cannabis! I would think that they, if anyone, would need our compassion. By the way My patients refuse to take handouts, so we have come up with a 3 way pay on my power bill. Seems more than fair to me.
Vaper Sounds like they know, there is no such thing as a "free ride". If someone is getting something for nothing, someone else is paying for it. Period. They are a "non profit organization"... if they don't pay for "that" batch, then they can "give" that batch away. We've gotten 1/8's for Christmas... all through donated medicine. Only issue I can think of though.. is you're only licensed to grow for so many patients.. 2 at most, isn't it? So giving to a club might put you over that amount. And our $20 annual membership fees pay for "some" operational costs as well. A few hundred patients at $20 a pop.
Edited by Spuzzum (03/28/12 05:18 PM)
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#1738005 - 03/28/12 05:48 PM
Re: Designated Grower assistance
[Re: Spuzzum]
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Stoner
 
Registered: 08/14/04
Posts: 416
Loc: Lotusland
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They are a "non profit organization"... if they don't pay for "that" batch, then they can "give" that batch away. We've gotten 1/8's for Christmas... all through donated medicine.
In what magical world do you live in, where a non-profit organization has no bills to pay?!?! They still have all the expenses of a "for profit" organization, they just don't have anything left over at the end of business. If it comes through the door, it needs to be handled by several people (all being payed), in a building (that needs to have the rent payed on), to package those "free 1/8ths" for what.... 3500+ members?!?! Only issue I can think of though.. is you're only licensed to grow for so many patients.. 2 at most, isn't it? So giving to a club might put you over that amount. That is one issue. You can only provide Cannabis to a max of 2 people. The other issue is, you cannot give or sell any part of your harvest. Period. It is for the exclusive use of the patient that it is being grown for. IF there is excess, it MUST be destroyed, or you are in VIOLATION of your exemption. And our $20 annual membership fees pay for "some" operational costs as well. A few hundred patients at $20 a pop. Well... at the dispensary I buy from ( The Dispensary), there IS no annual membership fee! Several Thousand members needing service @ $0.00 a pop, but they are still delivering quality medicine at a reasonable cost. If you don't think the Cannabis is worth the price, don't buy it. All I ask, is that people stop bashing those hard working individuals that are risking their personal safety every day to provide quality medicine to those in need!
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#1738125 - 03/29/12 06:13 PM
Re: Designated Grower assistance
[Re: W/O Reason]
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Registered: 04/12/09
Posts: 117
Loc: Lotusland
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In what magical world do you live in, where a non-profit organization has no bills to pay?!?! They still have all the expenses of a "for profit" organization, they just don't have anything left over at the end of business. No shit Sherlock.. that's what "non profit" means. The money goes into the business, and employee's paycheques.. it doesn't build up in the owner's bank account. If it comes through the door, it needs to be handled by several people (all being payed), in a building (that needs to have the rent payed on), to package those "free 1/8ths" for what.... 3500+ members?!?! Grower gave it as a Christmas present for the members.. not too difficult to understand. Well... at the dispensary I buy from ( The Dispensary), there IS no annual membership fee! Several Thousand members needing service @ $0.00 a pop, but they are still delivering quality medicine at a reasonable cost. If you don't think the Cannabis is worth the price, don't buy it. Yeah.. I've tried the Dispensary's medicine.. crap compared to GC's.. sorry. As for the $20.. that's "supposed" to be for the "member's association".. NOT the club itself. They are 2 separate entities. But when they don't use it for member's functions, like it's supposed to be for.. then that's an issue. Same as the Compassion Club on Commercial by the way.. membership fees are for the member's association.. not the club itself. What.. you think it costs $20 fuckin' dollars to take a digital picture and laminate it to one of their business cards?? LoL! Shit.. from what I've heard.. the Dispensary doesn't even "need" a card. They'll sell to anyone right off the street. They say it's because they don't want to "deny anyone their medicine".. but in reality, it's one of the things the opponents of medical marijuana are complaining about... just another dealer selling dope. All I ask, is that people stop bashing those hard working individuals that are risking their personal safety every day to provide quality medicine to those in need! You know what bud? I've been a member at this club close to 4 years now, and was a member at the Commercial Dr. club since 2001, until 3 years ago. The clubs are owned by the guys running it, yes.. but they "belong" to the membership.. ie: me and every other "paying" member. "We" make the constitutional rules, "we" have the membership meetings voting on club happenings and rules.. NOT the owners. If I want to give my opinion on these clubs.. I will. I don't need your permission. I also don't need the attitude.. keep it to yourself. Peace...............
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#1738201 - 03/30/12 05:07 PM
Re: Designated Grower assistance
[Re: Spuzzum]
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Registered: 08/14/04
Posts: 416
Loc: Lotusland
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Yeah.. I've tried the Dispensary's medicine.. crap compared to GC's.. sorry. As for the $20.. that's "supposed" to be for the "member's association".. NOT the club itself. They are 2 separate entities. But when they don't use it for member's functions, like it's supposed to be for.. then that's an issue. Same as the Compassion Club on Commercial by the way.. membership fees are for the member's association.. not the club itself. What.. you think it costs $20 fuckin' dollars to take a digital picture and laminate it to one of their business cards?? LoL!
You seem to have your clubs confused.... There ARE NO FEES at The Dispensary. All you are going to pay for, is the cost of the Cannabis goods you purchase. The BIG difference is, there IS no membership association. The Medicinal Cannabis Dispensary is a dispensary owned by The Vancouver Dispensary Society. Unlike the BCCCS, Green Cross, and possibly others, the society is NOT member controlled. It is simply a handful of people trying to provide medicine to those that need it. Shit.. from what I've heard.. the Dispensary doesn't even "need" a card. They'll sell to anyone right off the street. They say it's because they don't want to "deny anyone their medicine".. but in reality, it's one of the things the opponents of medical marijuana are complaining about... just another dealer selling dope. You obviously have never been to The Dispensary.... You can't even buy Cannabis there if you just forget your card at home! You know what bud? I've been a member at this club close to 4 years now, and was a member at the Commercial Dr. club since 2001, until 3 years ago. The clubs are owned by the guys running it, yes.. but they "belong" to the membership.. ie: me and every other "paying" member. "We" make the constitutional rules, "we" have the membership meetings voting on club happenings and rules.. NOT the owners. If I want to give my opinion on these clubs.. I will. I don't need your permission. I also don't need the attitude.. keep it to yourself.
Peace............... Well that may be the case at the BCCCS, or even the Green Cross (just disgruntled BCCCS people), your group of "we's" can do what ever the hell you want over there....
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