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#1735326 - 03/02/12 09:06 PM Re: Malmos Beef * [Re: GreenAlien]
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Originally Posted By: GreenAlien
Make another friend David ?
Are you kidding me? Naah! He`s just ignorant of who he`s calling ignorant. Wazzup GA? Now he`ll know who he`s talking to for sure when he opens the attachment. Nazis? That`s a bit archaic eh? SOB; I thought for sure by now this place would have a true moderator like Jodie did when things got out of MisterHand http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a367/ixcantxwaitxforever/florida-gators.gif .


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#1735329 - 03/02/12 09:26 PM Re: Malmos Beef [Re: DocSativa]
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I've never denied being a libertarian socialist (similar to Orwell who called himself a democratic socialist). I'm the opposite of a communist so stop pretending the two types of socialism are the same if you want to seem less ignorant.
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#1735337 - 03/03/12 12:32 AM Re: Malmos Beef [Re: davidmalmolevine]
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You were an Anarchist; now you`re a what? Libertarian Socialist is an oxymoron David. A Libertarian would never advocate wealth redistribution cons, and a Socialist would be furious over any free market capitalist enterprise not owned by a centralized government;including drug dealing. The facts are self evident that Socialists are often unwilling to own up to their political identities because in most instances,with a few exceptions, people are very familiar with what Socialism whether from the right(Nazis) or the left(Communists) often leads to. I really hope you delete your comments above about illegal drug sales funding pro marijuana causes; whether you realize it or not, you just described a closed loop. Drug money funds activists who blow pot smoke in people`s faces, pass out free marijuana at pot rallies, sell weed to 11 year olds if they sign a promise not to drive under the influence of pot, get kicked out of the NDP party by posting videos of themselves doing drugs and driving...... Couldn`t you guys try to fuck us just a little more gently? Okay, since you dropped the name, I`ll mention Marc Emery also. A few years back, I discovered a site which described a med pot grow in California consisting of a collective group of the most wonderful mix of oldtimers and young adults growing weed near a body of freshwater. Lots of pictures of their plot of ground, and very well written descriptions but they made a huge mistake.In one photo group it showed a seed catalogue from Marc`s seed business. It had Marc`s picture on it and a list of inventory, prices etc and in the comments about Marc, the writer said that Marc had sent them a bunch of free sample seeds and they were very thankful. Guess what? The DEA showed up and arrested everybody and shut down their site and probably confiscated everything, including the property. Guess how I found that site? I typed in marc emery catalog.Is it possible that Marc declaring war on the DEA provoked the drug warriors to ratchet up their campaign by targeting his customers? They got his computer files. Piss off the social conservatives and parents of children with drug problems, provoke a backlash like Bill C-10, reduce the number of people willing to risk getting into serious trouble and diminish the supply which increases the price of your product. I refuse to go any further about the closed loop aspects of your statement;peeps are smart enough to figure out the rest of the story all by themselves. Just a parting shot to stimulate your gray matter; never forget that a large number of people who promote prohibition in my country are the very same persons who did a lot of drugs, hated the police, encouraged armed revolution and even built cities by laundering drug money.

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#1735338 - 03/03/12 01:12 AM Re: Malmos Beef [Re: GrandPoobah]
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Originally Posted By: GrandPoobah
David, I proved it...u banned me for it....remember
Damn Poobah! I thought I was the only one who`s ever been banned for that. One thing I`m certain of. I`ve been banned for it a thousand times more than you have. Chomp!!!


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#1735340 - 03/03/12 02:41 AM Re: Malmos Beef [Re: DocSativa]
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"You were an Anarchist; now you`re a what?"

Anarchist means "no rulers". A libertarian socialist is someone who believes in freedom and love, of sharing political and economic power. These two things aren't mutually exclusive. Quite the contrary, they're different ways of saying the same thing.

If you take time out to actually research the things you try to speak about in public, you might learn something:

"Libertarian socialism (sometimes called social anarchism,[1][2] ..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

But you never were one for too much research. Heavy on the opinion, light on the facts. Not much has changed over the years.

"Libertarian Socialist is an oxymoron David."

Freedom and love are not opposites.

"A Libertarian would never advocate wealth redistribution cons, and a Socialist would be furious over any free market capitalist enterprise not owned by a centralized government;including drug dealing."

And you base this opinion on what? Fox news?

Here ... meet some libertarian socialists - their beliefs may surprise you, if you bother to do some basic research about them:

Gerrard Winstanley
Charles Fourier
Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
Joseph Dejacque
Mikhail Bakunin
Peter Kropotkin
William Morris
Errico Malatesta
Leo Tolstoy
Rosa Luxemburg
Emma Goldman
Ricardo Flores Magón
Rudolf Rocker
Antonie Pannekoek
Amadeo Bordiga
Buenaventura Durruti
Nestor Makhno
Paul Mattick
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
Herbert Marcuse
Noam Chomsky
Cornelius Castoriadis
Murray Bookchin
Guy Debord
Antonio Negri
Takis Fotopoulos
Gilles Dauvé
Michael Albert
Subcomandante Marcos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism


"I really hope you delete your comments above about illegal drug sales funding pro marijuana causes;"

Fuck you. We're all proud of what we did. If there's nothing wrong with pot smoking, there's nothing wrong with pot dealing or pot seed dealing, either.



"... whether you realize it or not, you just described a closed loop. Drug money funds activists who blow pot smoke in people`s faces,"

Bullshit. You have no proof of that. You lie every time your fingers hit the keyboards.



"... pass out free marijuana at pot rallies,"

You say that like it's a bad thing. It's a wonderful medicinal herb - less risky than coffee beans. We've passed out a million joints over the years and nobody has ever had a bad experience from them.



"... sell weed to 11 year olds if they sign a promise not to drive under the influence of pot,"

13 year olds. If society has no problem with caffeine sales to teenagers, what's wrong with cannabis sales to teenagers?



"... get kicked out of the NDP party by posting videos of themselves doing drugs and driving......"

You lie again - nobody got kicked out of the NDP. Dana and Kirk chose to step down from running in one election but they're still both in the NDP - Dana even ran for head of the Provincial NDP AFTER he stepped down, and won many friends and a lot of respect.


"Couldn`t you guys try to fuck us just a little more gently?"

Spoken like a true armchair activist - unwilling to lead by example, unable to achieve anything on one's own, your contribution is limited to hypercritical comments.

And by the way, every year we've been activists public opinion is more and more on our side - we're successful, and you're in denial of how good a job we're doing.



"Is it possible that Marc declaring war on the DEA provoked the drug warriors to ratchet up their campaign by targeting his customers?"

Your "activism creates oppression" argument is amusing but nonsensical. Every example of scapegoating provided by history proves that the scapegoats that act up are the only ones that survive. The scapegoats that keep their heads down and show no public dignity or resistance to oppression are the ones that get the gas chambers.


"Piss off the social conservatives and parents of children with drug problems, provoke a backlash like Bill C-10,..."

Bill C-10 isn't a "backlash" - it's the same plan they've been trying to force through since 1992, back when it was called bill C-7 and bill C-8 ... they've been attempting to wipe us out no matter what we do - whether it's in 1992 after 12 years of zero activism, or now that we're getting louder and prouder. The difference between 1992 and today is that at least we have public support now - which means we have a chance of survival.


But of course I've said all this before ... and then what happens is you change the subject, or ignore it, or go away and then try making these same old tired arguments again and again. Sad, pathetic old man.
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#1735341 - 03/03/12 02:43 AM Re: Malmos Beef [Re: DocSativa]
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"David, I proved it...u banned me for it....remember"

Poobah is suffering from the same shitty memory problems you are. I've never banned anyone. I don't believe in it - how am I going to crush your arguments if you're not here to make them?
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#1735362 - 03/03/12 08:03 AM Re: Malmos Beef [Re: DocSativa]
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Look David may rub you the wrong way but he no newbie. [21,000 post] And there is no question he is an activest While I might hate his style hats off to him for his action.

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#1735383 - 03/03/12 10:01 AM Re: Malmos Beef [Re: davidmalmolevine]
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"Remember when I discovered that you identified yourself as a Socialist on your Fb page and you instantly went over there and removed that admission?"

I checked my Facebook page - it says "libertarian socialist" - like always.
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#1735414 - 03/03/12 12:41 PM Re: Malmos Beef [Re: davidmalmolevine]
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Doc Sativa is Benjamin.

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#1735426 - 03/03/12 03:00 PM Re: Malmos Beef [Re: Sticky_Icky]
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"Doc Sativa is Benjamin."

Yeah ... I had trouble remembering his name ... because he was so easily forgettable.

I wish whatever caused him to go away (jail? sickness? old age?) would come for him again.
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