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#1732835 - 02/07/12 03:55 PM
Re: I guess I am merely an amateur.
[Re: Rebel Dawg]
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Buddha, not to question the experts, but why bother adjusting the pH before adding ferts ? In the end, it makes no difference whatsoever... or am I missing something ? I would have need of echoing what DB said, why would you adjust prior to adding nutes? I have never done that as it does not make sense to me to do. But if you can convince me, I am listening. As I stated in my earlier post...I have never adjusted the PH, until after the salts and all additives were in the solution, I do it at the end...Still today. For the exact reasoning you both stated, seems kinda pointless. What was said in the article as to why a before and after adjustment was that "If the ph is out of wack the salts wouldn't dissolve properly, so adjust the ph before adding salts, then again after adding salts, then all ingredients would dissolve". I don't understand this thinking either. If you added the salts and the PH was out and the salts didn't dissolve properly, as soon as you adjust the PH so it is good, the salts would dissolve....I would think Correct. So to answer your question on why before and after, really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either. I was merely reporting information I had found. Peace...Buddha PS. I mix my own salts to create my fertilizing solution, and I always have a little un-dissolved particles at the bottom swirling around. Maybe I should try adjusting PH before I mix next time, see if I can illuminate these partials. It may pertain to the old powder and crystal ferts that I still use, and not to the liquids that are used used today...Buddha
Edited by Buddha (02/07/12 04:02 PM) Edit Reason: added a PS.
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#1733614 - 02/15/12 11:43 AM
Re: I guess I am merely an amateur.
[Re: Buddha]
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PS. I mix my own salts to create my fertilizing solution, and I always have a little un-dissolved particles at the bottom swirling around. Maybe I should try adjusting PH before I mix next time, see if I can illuminate these partials. It may pertain to the old powder and crystal ferts that I still use, and not to the liquids that are used used today...Buddha
I adjusted my PH before and after adding the salts for the past few feedings. As far as I can see, it makes no difference. The partials are still present if you adjust PH before and after. I can see this being a bad practice, because you put much more chemical in the feeding solution, this can't be good for the plants. When I adjust at the end only, as I have always done, I use a few drops of PH up or down. When done before and after, I was using much more than a few drops. So in this case the Experts are wrong. Peace...Buddha
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#1737724 - 03/26/12 02:11 PM
Re: I guess I am merely an amateur.
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4000 watts + 20 plants = 32 Oz. slightly under 1/4 gram per watt.
This time next year I will see how much improvement I have made.
4000 watts + 24 plants = 34 Oz. Basically same as last time. Only 2 ounces more total from 4 extra plants. Pots were same #2 as last time, and I fed better than last time.Hmmm. Next time around I have moved to #3 pots. Pot size is considerably larger than my #2's Same light, same food, and 20 plants. Topped a couple of times, as usual.
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