Ahhhhh the failure of multiculturalism.... This is all over the place onegreennazi.

Funny thing is. Israel allows this kind if immigration, do other arab societies allow it... NO!!!!! They don't like multiculturalism as it goes against the teachings of the Koran (from an extremist perspective).

Germany, UK, Netherlands and Denmark are abandoning the failure of multiculturalism.

We can only hope that Canada is next.

are you serious? why should canada abandon multiculturalism?

Because ... the other races that I don't belong to are unclean, disease ridden smelly criminals that are taking our jobs while sleeping with our daughters!

Obviously.

You put your lamb-chop in your mouth nazi...

you want to ethnically cleanse Canada eh.

That's called genocide or holocaust
and is an International
war crime.

Does that include all Jews in Canada also or just a
certain sect of Jews?

I knew you were all BS from your first post.

Get your ovens ready for you and HAND...

That is a really racist thing of you to say David.

I kind of expected it given your intollerance for others peoples ideals and fixation on the Arab/Israeli conflict for whatever reason you may have.

You guys are really behind the times if you haven't read the latest statements on mulitculturalism from Eurpoe's leaders (real nazis btw) and it's failures there (which have led to terrorism and ghettoization). Great things right! Oh but you will claim racism..EVERYONE in europe is racist eh.. RIGHT.

The Ghettoization is very apparant here in Ottawa and it is self chosen for the most part.

Ohh and when I speak multiculturalism.. I mean government policy a la Trudeau.

Your still a fuck goof Dave. Hope you enjoyed anal reaming in prison. IF your back to dealing again you'll be there soon.

i am familiar with the situation in france...canada is not france...not even close

i used to live in ottawa, and it was the only city i ever set foot in that didn't have a truly bad neighbourhood...i visit ottawa every year and i can't think of anywhere i would be afraid to walk alone, except maybe hull when the bars close...immigrants in ottawa (and canada in general) experience a slightly higher unemployment rate, but less than the unemployment rate in newfoundland, prince edward island, nova scotia, and probably ontario too

france is in a totally different situation than canada...france colonized a big chunk of africa, and maintained it's legal influence until the late 1950's and early 1960's...france imposed it's settlers, culture, commerce, and christianity on muslim countries whose populations were part of the french empire...as such, people living in the french colonies were INVITED to move to france by the french government which explains why france has the largest population of muslims in western europe (but only ? muslim politicians)...muslim immigrants realized that they were not fully participating french citizens, even generations after they arrived...the discrimination and rampant unemployment are a huge source of resentment which the french government inflamed with threatening language, police tactics, deportations, and anti-muslim laws like the veil ban

compared to france, canada has a measured (more or less) immigration policy...the canadian government didn't just throw the doors open to millions of muslim immigrants, and dump them in housing projects...canadian muslims have issues of concern, but polls show (see link below) they are mostly satisfied with their choice to move to canada, and report far less discrimination then european muslims

http://www.unac.org/ready/en/research/Canada%27s%20Muslims,%20an%20International%20Comparison.pdf

Key word used to.

Cause it must be a few years man..Cause Ottawa is not like that anymore! Gangs, guns and muggings is the of Ottawa today.

Dave's too busy blogging about helping the world. He'd make a good politician(full of hotair adn bluster but nothing much else)... I got off my ass, joined the Forces and went overseas to HELP. Found out that the rest of the world is not a very nice place.

Canada is an amazing country. We truely don't know how lucky we are that our ancesestors worked so hard to create this wonderful land.

Frankly, Frances issues should remain that .. Frances.. Completely different situation than here.

"are you serious? why should canada abandon multiculturalism?"

Because it takes 1-3 generations to civilize and acculturate people to an English-speaking culture. More or less, if people are moving, they're the wrong sort of people: idiots who cannot fix their own home, so they'll move into someone else's. Just the sort of people we need in Canada, right?

Multiculturalism is University wonk koolaid that the people never voted for, and it deserves to die the death that all academic wonkery eventually does.

i just checked and the violent crime rate in ottawa is lower now than when i lived there...when i lived in ottawa, violent crime rates were at their peak in canada...if immigration is your explanation for crime, then immigration should be your explanation the reduction in crime rates:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2011/03/29/ottawa-less-crime.html


ottawa had the second lowest crime rate of urban areas in canada in 2006...ottawa is a great place to live if you don't mind the freezing winters and boiling hot summers:
http://www4.hrsdc.gc.ca/.3ndic.1t.4r@-eng.jsp?iid=57




robin:
it doesn't take 1 - 3 generations to "civilize" people to our culture...i know people whose families have lived in english speaking cultures for generations and they are still uncivilized louts who think brown people are inherently inferior


report: canadians are the most tolerant people in the developed world:
http://www.calgaryherald.com/life/Canadians+most+tolerant+developed+world+report/4600811/story.html


if we abandon multiculturalism, then what would we replace it with? forced cultural assimilation centers? concentration camps for non-assimilators? deport people for not acting white enough? i'd much rather embrace multiculturalism than start down the slippery slope to policies that seem more at home in saudi arabia

"robin:
it doesn't take 1 - 3 generations to "civilize" people to our culture...i know people whose families have lived in english speaking cultures for generations and they are still uncivilized louts who think brown people are inherently inferior"

I disagree. I see civilization into English culture as a rejection of politics and an acceptance of constant, eternal monarchy. Parliament may be supreme in fact, but in fact many things occur which ought not to be in law. The K-University system no longer even tries to do this.

I have been listening to the Chinatown rezoning hearings at City Hall, and almost every one of the "con" speakers starts his presentation like a doubleplusgood little indocvictim, "I want to acknowledge how we're on unceded coast salish territory!!! FUH FUH FUH I FAILED PRIMARY SCHOOL SOCIAL STUDIES!!"

And these are University graduates; so what am I to do, say that we're acculturating people properly as it is? And, by the by, some of these kids grew up in Vancouver. Not even Vancouverites are being properly acculturated by the K-12 system, and University certainly isn't cutting the mustard these days, so I think, in fact, that multiculturalism has already done the damage to British Columbia.

That's largely why the Scriptures were removed from the public schoolsystem, not quite "I am from a special culture who thinks Christ was a loser, so I won't have my precious baby told the truth about how I am a vicious sinner and how Christ loves me even in spite of my faults! I want it fed nothing but the finest university propaganda!" but almost.

The fruits of multiculturalism are an intractable, divided intellect, and great masses of people who don't use the lingua franca well enough to defend themselves. So multiculturalism is great for lawyers, the state and corporations, who get a pliable talent pool, which can be retrained in whatever language it understands, as most corporate propaganda can be translated into any language.

But law, that is where Latin and English are important, the former not being taught at all publicly anymore, and the latter being taught badly by many English teachers on grounds of cultural theory: many "Feminist" English teachers explicitely teach bad grammar, in order to "make a point." They teach that you may agree a plural pronoun with a singular antecedent.

And if you are going to say 'what a load of regressive, colonial, patriarchal trash, maaan,' that's exactly the problem. That's not an argument, and the only reason it appears to be an argument is because anti-royalist cliques have taken over K-12 and Universities.

"canadians are the most tolerant people in the developed world"

So, of the developed nations, every one of which treats drug users like cattle, boxing them up, torturing them, etc. Canadians are the "most tolerant" of that, is this what you mean? Or do you mean that Canadians tolerate things that nobody has any need to tolerate, like "Canadians will allow every colour and race to use their restaurants, because they know if they don't, PC wonks from the Universities will attack them using human rights tribunals, and they will show no mercy!" Canada has the best forced nationalization of private property in the developed world, and the subject tolerate it oh so well! Is that what you mean?

Canadians are not tolerant people; no people who believe in actual toleration support or put other people in prison for their diets. Tolerant people also don't run others to the side of the road for not wearing a seatbelt. Canadians, like all industrial-drone-society-members, are for the most part nasty, brutish and short.