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#1739705 - 04/15/12 06:11 AM
Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism
[Re: onegreenday]
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http://www.presstv.ir/detail/236328.htmlIsraeli police deployed to airport to stop pro-Palestinian activists Israeli border policemen stand guard at Ben Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv on April 15, 2012. Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:50AM GMT Israel has deployed hundreds of policemen to its Ben Gurion Airport to confront pro-Palestinian activists arriving from European countries. Up to 1,500 Palestinian supporters, more than a third of them from France, have planned to visit the West Bank as part of a campaign called “Welcome to Palestine 2012.” The campaign aims to protest against Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories. Tel Aviv has denounced the activists as ‘provocateurs,’ and promised to deny them entry. Israel also forced European airlines to cancel the tickets of pro-Palestinian activists planning to travel to the occupied territories. British airline Jet2.com was joined by Lufthansa, Air France and Easyjet in canceling the tickets of suspected ‘flytilla’ participants on the orders of Israel. The “Welcome to Palestine 2012” campaigners plan to visit the West Bank city of Bethlehem as well as other Palestinian cities in the territory. In July 2011, Israel blocked a similar fly-in effort by preventing dozens from boarding Tel Aviv-bound flights in Europe and denying entry to 69. AGB/MA/HJL
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#1739776 - 04/15/12 11:20 PM
Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism
[Re: onegreenday]
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Ganja God
 
Registered: 09/17/99
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Loc: BC
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"Better yet, since you know Chomsky practically verbatim, please post his writings on the subject of Jewish Extremism he encountered in occupied Palestine." "Better yet"? Is that your way of admitting there is no difference between your views and that guy from "Jew Watch"? I guess you're not only a Jew hater, but you're too lazy to type the word "Chomsky" and "Kibbutz" into Google. Here are Chomsky's views about the Kibbutz he worked on: CHOMSKY: I went for a few months when I was at the Society of Fellows, in 1953. The kibbutz where we lived, which was about twenty years old, was then very poor. There was very little food, and work was hard. But I liked it very much in many ways. Abstracting it from context, this was a functioning and very successful libertarian community, so I felt. And I felt it would be possible to find some mixture of intellectual and physical work. I came close to returning there to live, as my wife very much wanted to do at the time. I had nothing particularly attractive here. I didn't expect to be able to have an academic career, and was not particularly interested in one. There was no major drive to stay. On the other hand, I did have a lot of interest in the kibbutz and I liked it very much when I was there. But there were things I didn't like, too. In particular, the ideological conformity was appalling. I don't know if I could have survived long in that environment because I was very strongly opposed to the Leninist ideology, as well as the general conformism, and uneasy -- less so than I should have been -- about the the exclusiveness and the racist institutional setting. What I did not then face honestly was the fairly obvious fact that these are Jewish institutions and are so because of legal and administrative structures and practice. So, for example, I doubt if there's an Arab in any kibbutz, and there hardly could be, because of the land laws and the role the institution plays in the Israeli system. In fact, even the Oriental Jews, some of whom were marginally at the kibbutz or in the immigrant town nearby, were treated rather shabbily, with a good deal of contempt and fear. I also visited some Arab villages, and learned some unpleasant things, which I've never seen in print, about the military administration to which Arab citizens were subjected. Now I had some fairly strong feelings about all of that at the time. In fact, as I mentioned, I was very strongly opposed to the idea of a Jewish state back in 1947-48. I felt sure that the socialist institutions of the Yishuv -- the pre-state Jewish settlement in Palestine -- would not survive the state system, as they would become integrated into a sort of state management and that would destroy the aspects of the Yishuv that I found most attractive. But, if we abstract away from those factors, the external environment, it was a kind of anarchist community. QUESTION: What did you do on the kibbutz? Did you find the intellectual life stimulating? And why did you leave? CHOMSKY: Remember that I was only there for about six weeks. I was completely unskilled, so I was doing only unskilled agricultural work, under the guidance of kibbutz members. I actually enjoyed the work very much, though for how long I would have, I don't know. As for intellectual life, this kibbutz was Buberite in origin, mainly German Jews who were quite well-educated though one of the people I came to know best was a Christian immigrant who had left a large farm he owned in Rhodesia out of hatred for the racist society there, and who was really a first-class agronomist with many interesting ideas. There were very interesting people there, but it was surreal in some ways. This was 1953, at the time of the Slansky trials in Czechoslovakia and the last stages of Stalinist lunacy. These late Stalin purges had a strong anti-Semitic element, but people there actually defended them. They even defended the trial of a fellow kibbutz member who was an emissary of the kibbutz movement there and was charged with being a spy, which they knew to be false. Not all did, of course. Those who thought about these things -- many did not -- were orthodox Marxist-Leninists, and I could discern no visible departure from a fairly rigid party line, though there may well have been much that I never saw. It was a short visit, and I returned to Harvard, planning to come back, maybe to stay, in a few years. My term at the Society of Fellows was supposed to end in 1954, but I had no job prospects and asked for a year's extension, which I received. My wife, meanwhile, went back to the kibbutz for a longer visit. We planned then to return to stay, but by then I had obtained a research position at MIT and was very much involved in my own linguistic work. For one reason or another, without any particular conscious decision at any point, we never did return. http://www.chomsky.info/books/reader01.htm"PS: One year ago when I searched the CC Forum archives YOU DML were the only one to post links to your hate sites." What "hate sites"?
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#1739893 - 04/17/12 03:12 AM
Re: Catwalk of Jewish Extremism
[Re: onegreenday]
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Ganja God
 
Registered: 09/17/99
Posts: 21455
Loc: BC
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"No, it's Jewish Extremism because it's a Jewish State. It's appropriate terminology." Hmmm ... there's a double standard there. The USA has "In God We Trust" on it's money and the President swears his oath of allegiance on a Christian bible. "No president thus far has been an atheist, a Jew, a Buddhist, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Sikh or an adherent of any other specifically non-Christian religion." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_affiliations_of_Presidents_of_the_United_StatesGiven that the US is a Christian nation that no non-Christian has a hope in hell of leading, what are the odds that the war crimes of the US are referred to as "Christian Extremism"? I'll wait to see if you can provide some examples of that. If you can't provide any examples, we can safely say that Anne Frank was correct: "What one Christian does is his own responsibility, what one Jew does is thrown back at all Jews.'" - Anne Frank It's the double standard that is used by Hitler, the Jew Watch guy, and YOU. You still haven't: 1) attempted to explain the difference - if any - between the views expressed on "Jew Watch", and your views. 2) you still haven't provided examples of the "hate sites" that I endorse - or any evidence that I endorse them. 3) you still haven't told me what you do for the Palestinian cause aside from post messages in this cannabis discussion forum. Why is that, I wonder.
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