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#1689831 - 03/14/11 06:43 AM Re: florecent lights and flowering [Re: Darkorpse]
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Darkorpse has a good point there: do NOT play with the males, then head off to say hello to the girls, even hours later. To be safe, avoid the room you house the males in until the last thing at night. Next day, change ALL your clothes before entering the girls space. Pollen sticks to everything, including your hair. Water takes care of the problem, so a shower would be a good idea...
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#1689882 - 03/14/11 02:18 PM Re: florecent lights and flowering [Re: Darkorpse]
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I'm smoking some sharksbreath that was grown under 6 cfl's in a small closet. I set my friend up with the clones and they had a budget setup. I'm not sure of the wattage but it was 3 flower cfl's and 3 veg cfl's that were purchased at the local HTG growshop.

So here's the breakdown. It will work. It will get you smokable buds. They will not glisten like something that been under a 1Kw HPS or 2x600w Hps's but it will get the job done. Its a nice way to get started if your not sure you want to jump in to spendings hundreds of dollars on lights/fans/AC/power/etc.

I'd suggest at least a 400w switchable to get really desirable product in a small setup. I actually start my clones out in a closet with 3 sets of 2x2ft T5 floros and it works well. Once they get about 10-12" tall they go under a 400w mh for about 10-14 days then they go under the 1000w HPS to finish.
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#1689905 - 03/14/11 05:16 PM Re: florecent lights and flowering [Re: prelude2250]
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Originally Posted By: prelude2250
I'm smoking some sharksbreath that was grown under 6 cfl's in a small closet. I set my friend up with the clones and they had a budget setup. I'm not sure of the wattage but it was 3 flower cfl's and 3 veg cfl's that were purchased at the local HTG growshop.

So here's the breakdown. It will work. It will get you smokable buds. They will not glisten like something that been under a 1Kw HPS or 2x600w Hps's but it will get the job done. Its a nice way to get started if your not sure you want to jump in to spendings hundreds of dollars on lights/fans/AC/power/etc.


I'm sorry, but I don't think you know much about math, and I'm going to explain why.

Numbers, are always relevant.

He was trying to flower TWO plants under ONE 40w CFL bulb.
Your Friend was trying to produce THREE plants under SIX bulbs.

Even if your friends bulbs were half the stength (23-26w is what most people seem to use (the 1600 lumen ones as opposed to the 2500 lumen 40w) your friend still had 3+ more times the ammount of light intensity in his setup than this guy... which makes it a very unfair comparison.

On another note, running 3/3 6000k/2700k is a great setup, as you'll have minimal stretching, and still promote bud development (Though I'd switch to all 2700k's once the stetch stopped if all my plants were flowered at the same time)
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#1689908 - 03/14/11 05:46 PM Re: florecent lights and flowering [Re: prelude2250]
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They will not glisten like something that been under a 1Kw HPS or 2x600w Hps's but it will get the job done.


You can get damn fucking sweet trichalicious bud under CFL It's not going to affect it's potency it'll effect yield and density.
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#1689916 - 03/14/11 06:43 PM Re: florecent lights and flowering [Re: Organic Gardener ]
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You can get damn fucking sweet trichalicious bud under CFL It's not going to affect it's potency it'll effect yield and density.


Hear, Hear!!

(I need to find my camera... almost harvest time :P)
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#1689932 - 03/14/11 10:35 PM Re: florecent lights and flowering [Re: Darkorpse]
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Originally Posted By: Darkorpse



I'm sorry, but I don't think you know much about math, and I'm going to explain why.

Numbers, are always relevant.

He was trying to flower TWO plants under ONE 40w CFL bulb.
Your Friend was trying to produce THREE plants under SIX bulbs.

Even if your friends bulbs were half the stength (23-26w is what most people seem to use (the 1600 lumen ones as opposed to the 2500 lumen 40w) your friend still had 3+ more times the ammount of light intensity in his setup than this guy... which makes it a very unfair comparison.

On another note, running 3/3 6000k/2700k is a great setup, as you'll have minimal stretching, and still promote bud development (Though I'd switch to all 2700k's once the stetch stopped if all my plants were flowered at the same time)


You're absolutely right I hate math. I don't ever remember comparing anything though. I was explaining my past experience and letting him know it would work but the quality will def be lacking. As will yield of course. I'm really not sure where you got this whole side by side comparison thing from. I am well aware of how lumens work but thank you. And I read the original post. Thats why I answered it. Are you saying that it wont work? Then we could reasonably disagree. I could say that you must not know much about reading forum posts but that's just not my style.

And I never said that you cant get good bud from cfl's. The whole point of my post was that bud grown under cfl's can be fine and be potent. It just isn't going to be as good as something grown under a 1000w HPS. Anyway to the OP... I'd recommend getting some more cfl's in there.
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#1689952 - 03/15/11 05:46 AM Re: florecent lights and flowering [Re: Organic Gardener ]
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Originally Posted By: Organic Gardener
Originally Posted By: prelude2250
They will not glisten like something that been under a 1Kw HPS or 2x600w Hps's but it will get the job done.


You can get damn fucking sweet trichalicious bud under CFL It's not going to affect it's potency it'll effect yield and density.


What he said.
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#1690021 - 03/15/11 12:26 PM Re: florecent lights and flowering [Re: Doobie_Brother]
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Like i said I could be wrong. I'm here on these forums to learn and share knowledge and experiences. The main reason I said anything is that I have literally taken 2 clones from the same mother and then one is grown at my place under mh/hps. the other is grown elsewhere under cfl. The same nutes were used the entire time because I mixed them all. Everything but light was the same. room temps, reflectivity, airflow. I mean maybe this is an isolated incident but there are clearly more trich's on the bud that was under mh/hps.

DISCLAIMER!!! I'm not dissing cfl's. They can produce good buds just like I said before. damn people.
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#1690068 - 03/15/11 04:09 PM Re: florecent lights and flowering [Re: prelude2250]
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Originally Posted By: prelude2250
Like i said I could be wrong. I'm here on these forums to learn and share knowledge and experiences. The main reason I said anything is that I have literally taken 2 clones from the same mother and then one is grown at my place under mh/hps. the other is grown elsewhere under cfl. The same nutes were used the entire time because I mixed them all. Everything but light was the same. room temps, reflectivity, airflow. I mean maybe this is an isolated incident but there are clearly more trich's on the bud that was under mh/hps.

DISCLAIMER!!! I'm not dissing cfl's. They can produce good buds just like I said before. damn people.


Dude, the DIFFERENCE is not the type of light, it's the ammount of light. You probably had like, 100-200w's of CFL power (Maybe 10k lumens total) and you had 1000w's of HPS power with 110,000 lumens.

That is the difference between throwing a bed-sheet over your plant, and letting it see the sun.
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#1690081 - 03/15/11 05:41 PM Re: florecent lights and flowering [Re: Darkorpse]
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LED, CFL and HID lamps all provide a different values from various parts of the electromagnetic spectrum; different "types of light."

Their differences in lumens per watt obviously affect yield over potency. However I would assume, regardless of luminance, a high intensity discharge bulb would emit a higher concentration of harmful electromagnetic radiation for a plant to protect itself from. Plant being cannabis and the protectant, its trichomes.

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