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#1681957 - 01/20/11 07:03 AM PC/Stealth/Micro - First time(medium gurus help!)
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My goal is only 2 plants for myself.
My tentative set up:

PC Server box (gutted and lined with mylar)
Ventilation: Scythe PC fans ~30CFM with DIY Carbon Filter
Lighting: 2 x 6500k CFL ~26W, 2 x 2300k CFL ~26W
Planned cycles: 20/4 Veg, 12/12 Flower
Medium: Haven't decided (soil vs coco?vs hydro?)
Seed:Bagseed

My question right now is what would be the easiest medium?
I know with soil, FoxFarm is the best choice, but you have to mix it with vermaculite and perlite?
Someone on another forum suggested CoCo, anyone have a good experience with it? and what's the maintenance like with it?
Hydro seems a little too sensative for me with ever-varying pH levels lol.

Drying:
For odour control purposes, would it be ok to dry inside the same case that I used to grow? (not growing and drying at the same time.)

Curing: jars lol

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#1681962 - 01/20/11 07:19 AM Re: PC/Stealth/Micro - First time(medium gurus help!) [Re: Cadence]
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foxfarm all you need is extra perlite. I use bat shit, age old organics grow/bloom, molasses and myco madness. I pull a zip per 18" plant (that's under HID not cfl though)
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#1681967 - 01/20/11 07:41 AM Re: PC/Stealth/Micro - First time(medium gurus help!) [Re: Cadence]
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Coco or soil...I imagine you will get answers promoting both. I prefer FFOF but only because I use it in other endeavours. I am now using Happy Frog and am beginning to like it better than FFOF. Its made by the same company as FFOF it just has the beneficials added to it. So far good results, at least equal to FFOF. It does cost a bit more. Yes you can dry in the pc case. Dark and some ventilation is what you need to dry.
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#1681991 - 01/20/11 09:23 AM Re: PC/Stealth/Micro - First time(medium gurus help!) [Re: puffinmeown]
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I have a busy schedule and I'm not at home that many hours a day so I won't be able to "water a few times a day". What medium would be able to tend to that?

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#1681994 - 01/20/11 09:35 AM Re: PC/Stealth/Micro - First time(medium gurus help!) [Re: Cadence]
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Soil I water maybe once a week.
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#1682055 - 01/20/11 03:42 PM Re: PC/Stealth/Micro - First time(medium gurus help!) [Re: Organic Gardener ]
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Micro grows are all the rage now....

I just like having a little more than a micro smoke after 3 months working on something.
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#1682179 - 01/21/11 11:55 AM Re: PC/Stealth/Micro - First time(medium gurus help!) [Re: Simo man]
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well they're convenient lol.
anyone speaking from coco side?

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#1682208 - 01/21/11 04:23 PM Re: PC/Stealth/Micro - First time(medium gurus help!) [Re: Cadence]
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CoCo is doable as well - if I were you I'd set myself up a low maintenance wick hydro system. That way you wouldn't have to tend to it as much.

The Wick System:

"In wick hydroponic growing systems, the plants are again in their own container, separate from the nutrient reservoir. Pieces of absorbant material (usually nylon rope) are buried partially in each plant container. The other end of the rope is allowed to dangle in the nutrient solution. The absorbant material pulls the nutrient solution from the reservoir up into the growing medium.

The system is easy to make as a homemade hydroponics system, and will support organic hydroponics without any problems, but there are a couple of things to consider.

Sometimes it is difficult to get the right moisture level in a wick system. You will have to experiment a little with more absorbant growing mediums (vermiculite/coconut coir). Also, I have seen the wicks suck up less and less water over time (especially when using organics).

If you want to give this method a try, I suggest a 50/50 mix of perlite/vermiculite. Perlite and coconut coir would work as well. Altogether, I think other systems are just as easy to use, and produce better results."


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#1682343 - 01/22/11 12:07 PM Re: PC/Stealth/Micro - First time(medium gurus help!) [Re: Mgee]
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interesting^^ so it's like a hybrid hydro/solid grow set up?
Self-feeding? lol. I think I'd like to try 50/50 Perlite/Coco, soil is a bit messier =P.

I'm not sure what nutes I should use use though. I heard of grabbing myself some molasses for flowering stages/pre-harvest?

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#1682551 - 01/23/11 09:11 PM Re: PC/Stealth/Micro - First time(medium gurus help!) [Re: Cadence]
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The wick system is technically a hydro system. Granted you can grow in soil, but the fact that it's self watering qualifies it for the category of "hydro".

Perlite/CoCo would work wonders with the system. Vermiculite/perlite is also a good combo.

When it comes to nutes as a beginning grower taking on hydro, I would look into General Hydroponics Flora series. It's very straight forward, good for any hydro system, although depending on strain you may need to buy some additives if any deficiencies occur.

If you want a little more mixing, check out the BC Grow "Recipe for Success Starter Kit". It is a 3 compound system with multiple different additives such as Sugar daddy, calmag, a-1 red/green, and root66. All you need is a TSP/mL measuring spoons and it is a very easy step by step guide for a balanced nutrient solution - This nute system eliminates most serious nutrient deficiencies because it is so balanced.

I have had great luck with the BC grow from experience and reccomend it for soil especially, as it may get a bit pricy mixing a 20+ gallon reservoir every week.

As for molasses, it does wonders, enough said.

Hope that helps a bit laugh


Edited by Mgee (01/23/11 09:12 PM)
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