For me I use meditation to start my work days and calm the whirlwind of thoughts I get. For me I like to meditate to separate myself from the feeling of being high which I may still feel in the morning or from anxieties and concerns which may be bugging me.

Since I mostly spend my days doing backbreaking mathematics I like to have optimum clarity to make things easier. I find meditation helps this, while most other things like going back to my "high" state of mind (i.e. associating my meditation with marijuana) or worrying about something I said the other day take away from it.

But of course, that's just me.

i wouldnt call it meditating,but first joint of the day i always sit for 20 minutes silence,to relax and prepare my head for whats to come in the day

That sounds like meditation, and an example of the natural meditative state one can acquire with cannabis.

Oh I've started many a morning with a bong rip, but I find it really slows things down if you try solving differential equations later on that day. This leads me to believe that it only hinders clarity.

For you maybe, I've written and researched 3 large books high on cannabis, but math has never been my forte, stoned or straight. The fact is though, cannabis use increases brain cell growth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Pv6iAURYI
Many brilliant people use cannabis.

http://mcforadhd.free.fr/Ref_en.html

While I have not read the entire debate, cause I know for a fact of the "healing power" of cannabis.

as a source I'll quote something real, and not only for me.

I am an ADDHER, I've got Attention deficit disorder, wich comes with anxiety..

I am pretty intelligent, got a High IQ, but it's no use if you can't control what's on your mind...

but then, there is Cannabis..

http://mcforadhd.free.fr/ADHD_Treating_Yourself_mag_2009.pdf
http://www.cannabinoidsociety.org/SYMPOSIUM.2009/index.html
http://mcforadhd.free.fr/ICRS_2009_ADHD.PDF
http://davidbearmanmd.com/cvs.htm

This one is clear. it's talking about the endocannabinoid system.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1820696077430281885#

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1521-0391.2010.00076.x/abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18213623
http://mcforadhd.free.fr/ARTICLE%20ADHD%20DRIVING%20GERMANY.pdf

http://mcforadhd.free.fr/Relief%20oriented%20use%20of%20M%20by%20teens%202009%20Canada%20study.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6285406


that's only the beginning, so if you still show all that skepticism, then you can go **** yourself.

Here is a technique my friend taught me, for meditation or a circle, Take a charcoal block and get it lit, take a pinch of dragons blood resin insense and a small bud and breath in the essence!!! Awesome for meditation, socializing or just to relax! Enjoy and peace out!

I find the debate is less on the subject at hand and rather more likely the inability to imagine it being any other way. After all if you define your universe based on your imagination and experience you do so also based on your own limitations, and so anything beyond your capabilities, your definitions, etc, is foreign and so is categorized in some limbo realm of improbability, madness or in this case ill-defined incorrectness.

One of those debates that would only resolve through impossible circumstances of reorganizing patterns of thought based on imagination, experience, etc.

One cannot meditate if you consume cannabis.And you need to quit completely if you want to continue meditating,Cant do both.

Not to be the party popper but that's what it is.