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#1726791 - 12/23/11 12:33 AM
Re: Weed and Meditating
[Re: NamasteGirl]
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I think that it's different for everyone. I think that cannabis could be a good tool in helping someone meditate or further what they get out of their meditation sessions. I, however, choose to meditate sober; the whole point of meditation for me is to be able to be aware and accepting of all my emotional states without any help from any substances or distractions (i.e. friends, family, TV). Although I'm sure some ganja would help me relax and 'space out', I feel that it wouldn't be a true accomplishment, and that any time I would like to use what I've learned in meditation, I wouldn't be able to without toking up first. But that might just be me Without any practice, experience or training of meditating, it would be difficult to learn how to meditate for beginners. It would be very helpful to consistently practice meditating. In doing so, you will be able to get enlightened and achieve the goal of meditating.
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#1740127 - 04/19/12 01:40 PM
Re: Weed and Meditating
[Re: themadfiddler]
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Well as someone who has meditated both while under the influence and not, and only able to speak for myself rather than make any broad sweeping statements about what is or is not possible regarding meditation (as such would be both outside my experience and frankly the scope of my or frankly the knowledge of most individuals in this day and age including, imho a couple of ex-stoners teaching meditation) the experience is simply different, not better or worse.
The shamanic experience, that of the "vegitalista" is not to be scoffed at, belittled or looked down upon as inferior to the non-entheogen user. That said, without any kind of initiation or training, wandering in without any roadmap might not be of practical value, unless one is gifted with a superlative sense of discipline, creativity and imagination and is some kind of natural shaman which, I would assume, most of us are not.
But this talk of a "right way" is, frankly, sounding more than a touch patronizing... I don't know if you intend it that way, but for those of us who have meditated before and do know a little about the subject and that meditation is more than just guided imagining or mindful thinking...well, that's how it comes off. It tends to put people on the defensive when put that way. Very well said! I agree with what you say. It is to me, immediately apparent when people start talking in absolutes they often know little other than their own small fragment of the 'verse and are unable/unwilling to examine other viewpoints. Mad Fiddler, like yourself I have walked some deep magical and spiritual paths. I have seen and experienced many things and what I have learned during this is that when one keeps an open mind they learn a lot more than when they are closed off.
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