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#1660896 - 09/10/10 02:32 PM Re: Weed and Meditating [Re: chrisbennett]
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Those are some pretty lofty claims there chris. Sources?
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#1660934 - 09/10/10 06:28 PM Re: Weed and Meditating [Re: Arcane_Inquisitor]
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Originally Posted By: chrisbennett
Cannabis gives an increase in attention energy...


Cannabis can modify and manipulate attention energy. Whether this modification is an increase or decrease depends on ones perspective and goal.


Originally Posted By: chrisbennett
It is not accident that Cannabis has more healing power than all the churches, mosques and temples of the world.


This seems like an odd comparison. Your not even comparing apples to oranges. Your comparing apples to bricks, mortar and steel. However, i would be interested to know ... what formula did you use to calculate the healing power of Cannabis? And what formula did you use to calculate the healing power of all the churches, mosques and temples of the world?
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#1660975 - 09/10/10 10:45 PM Re: Weed and Meditating [Re: Arcane_Inquisitor]
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Originally Posted By: Arcane_Inquisitor
Those are some pretty lofty claims there chris. Sources?

well this covers it all
http://www.forbiddenfruitpublishing.com/Soma/Book
here is the back cover plug from a well established and respected Prof. of anthropolgy
As Chris Bennett amply demonstrates in this seminal book, the ritual use of cannabis has a very long history. It extends from Vedic India in the second millennium, B.C.E., where the hallucinogen in question was known as Soma, classical Greece, ancient Israel where it appears as keneh bosem, and the steppes of Central Asia, where, according to Herodotus in Book IV of his History, the ancient Scythians ritually inhaled the fumes given off by burning cannabis leaves. Indeed, the plant has consistently occupied a central position in shamanic cults almost everywhere. In more recent times, and especially in the twentieth century, users of cannabis for spiritual purposes have unfortunately been persecuted, in the United States and elsewhere, by authorities enforcing laws against its possession. A good example can be seen in the ongoing attempts to suppress its use in the Rastafarian religion. In short, I heartily recommend Bennett’s book to anyone seeking a better understanding of this well-nigh universal, albeit all too often misunderstood hallucinogen and its crucial role in the history of human spirituality.
C. Scott Littleton, Ph.D.
Professor of Anthropology, Emeritus
Occidental College

But if there is a certain point you are wondering on, let me know.
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#1660977 - 09/10/10 10:52 PM Re: Weed and Meditating [Re: GitcheGumee]
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Re"Cannabis can modify and manipulate attention energy. Whether this modification is an increase or decrease depends on ones perspective and goal."

Sure a saddhu in India taking ganja as part of his meditation is probabaly getting more out of it than some kid who is puffing up before a session of grand theft auto.

Re" what formula did you use to calculate the healing power of Cannabis? And what formula did you use to calculate the healing power of all the churches, mosques and temples of the world?"

Well I don't know about a formula, but it would be a
knowledge of the medical applications and effectiveness of cannabis, up against church claims of miracles. So you work that out for yourself. Lots on the "internet" references about that cannabis medicine stuff if you haven't heard about it.
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#1661022 - 09/11/10 08:06 AM Re: Weed and Meditating [Re: chrisbennett]
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Well, I don't know how to compare the power of one thing to the power of something else without a formula that qualifies and quantifies the nature/physics of said power. Also, I'm not so sure the "internet" really makes that good of a "qualifier".

As for attention energy and the kid who is puffing up before a session of grand theft auto. The puffing of cannabis may allow the kid to focus more attention energy on the game while blocking out other things that might otherwise be distractions ... like mom yelling "CLEAN UP YOUR ROOM!!" The puffing of cannabis could also have the opposite effect on the kid ... it all depends on the kid, cannabis and perhaps other factors.
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#1661075 - 09/11/10 12:34 PM Re: Weed and Meditating [Re: GitcheGumee]
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The internet, gives you access to all sorts of scientific papers on the medical qualities of cannabis. Are you familair with any of that? If not it explains the trouble you are having.

"puffing of cannabis may allow the kid to focus more attention energy on the game while blocking out other things that might otherwise be distractions ... like mom yelling "CLEAN UP YOUR ROOM!!"

I agree with that, this is why so many sports folks love cannabis.

"The puffing of cannabis could also have the opposite effect on the kid ... it all depends on the kid, cannabis and perhaps other factors."

Certainly, as cannabis may cause the attention to be drawn to personal issues, and this is why so many report anxiety. The thing to do would be to work through those, via cannabis, and then get your attention focussed back on grand Theft auto or meditation, or snow boarding or whatever.
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#1661097 - 09/11/10 02:57 PM Re: Weed and Meditating [Re: chrisbennett]
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Originally Posted By: chrisbennett
The internet, gives you access to all sorts of scientific papers on the medical qualities of cannabis. Are you familair with any of that? If not it explains the trouble you are having.



My problem isn't with the facts or evidence ... at least not yet. My problem is more fundamental. What is the unit of measure and how is it applied in your comparison? But then again you really weren't making a comparison or saying anything.

"It is not accident that Cannabis has more healing power than all the churches, mosques and temples of the world."

"It is not fact that Cannabis has more healing power than all the churches, mosques and temples of the world."

"The idea that Cannabis has more healing power than all the churches, mosques and temples of the world is just dust blow'n in the wind"

All 3 of the above statements are true.
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#1661110 - 09/11/10 04:05 PM Re: Weed and Meditating [Re: GitcheGumee]
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I don't see how you can draw those comparisions. Cannabis has well documented healing qualities, it is a recognized mediicne that has been used for thousands of year. Can you offer equal scientific documentation on the healing power of Churches, mosques, and temples? The second two statments of the 3 are false. But you are kind of boring me with this..... work it out yourself, and take or leave my statement. It matters not to me.
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#1661126 - 09/11/10 05:01 PM Re: Weed and Meditating [Re: chrisbennett]
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Well, it's not going to work out for me and I don't believe it will work out for a lot of other people. I mainly just wanted to let you know why ... and give you some hints on how you might be able to fix it.

Your statement is based more in faith and what you'd like to believe rather than good solid science. I'm still kinda wondering what you were trying to imply by saying "It is not accident ..." seems like your saying that it has nothing to do with chance and that it is part of God's plan.
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#1661173 - 09/11/10 07:51 PM Re: Weed and Meditating [Re: GitcheGumee]
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That would be a resounding "no" on the statement that my reference to the healing qualities of cannabis are based on "faith", but then we have been through that, and obviously you are not familair with the great information available on cannabis' miraculous healing properties.
But I'll give a "Yes", on the part regarding God's plan, after all, the cannabis, Tree of Life, Haoma/Soma is the alpha and omega of the world's "great" religons.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/cannabis-has-always-played-an-important-role-in-religion
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