"I'm still kinda wondering what you were trying to imply by saying "It is not accident ..." seems like your saying that it has nothing to do with chance and that it is part of God's plan."

It isn't? I thought our all-powerful creator in his infinite perfection and wisdom created a magical clockwork like precision of plants, animals and wilderness, of which cannabis was and is a part. How could it be anything but part of God's plan? It is one of his plants, and that is plan with a t added to the end, it seems. Plants are planned, by God. Even mucking about with the DNAs is just rearranging the stuffs God put there. I mean, gosh, where do you think it came from, impersonal forces? Fine, their name is Eris, and they are a girl! Is that OK?

which god are we talking about by the way??? there's just so many of them these days i get confused..

I'm not saying that cannabis doesn't have any healing properties(power). I'm quite sure that cannabis does have healing properties(power) when used in certain ways. If you had simply stated that cannabis has healing properties(power) ... then i would have no problem with that. However, your original statement - "It is not accident that Cannabis has more healing power than all the churches, mosques and temples of the world." - seems to go pretty far beyond that by trying to make a comparison.

In the logical / scientific world when you make an objective comparison you need to qualify and quantify the properties of whatever it is that you are comparing.

I suppose in the political and religious world you just make comparisons and if people question them. Then tell them "Look it up on the Internet" or "Look it up in the Bible" .... if it's there then it must be true.

In my way of thinking: A comparison in which there is no defined formula and no defined qualifiers and no defined quantifiers ... is a "magical" comparison. Or one could say that it is a comparison that uses "sorcery".

If you don't like the my use of the word faith then how about I rephrase my previous statement - Your statement (that attempts to compare healing properties / power) is based more in magic and what you'd like to believe rather than good solid science.

EDIT ADD: Also, if your making a statement about God's plan ... I don't think that science is going to back you up on that one.

No, my statement is not based on faith or magic, but facts and science. The fact and science behind cannabis medicine put up against the facts and science about the healing properties of faith. Go through what you can find on both, and then you will undersand that what the real issue is here is your own.... wait for it... new word.... confusion. Capeche?

Well ya, once again you have managed to baffle me with your bullshit.

I think the real issue is a bunch of stupid garbage


ADD: Well that and understanding where science ends and faith begins.

I'm still waiting for some actual sources there Chris. So far you have only cited your own articles. But you seem to have actually read some serious sources (considering how you claim to be basing your conclusions in solid science)so why can you not cite those for us?

Well, you didn't exactly include a bibliography in your own comments AI, so why do you request that I do so? Generally, I go above and beyond the call of duty in the referencing of my work, and that has likely contributed a great deal to the academic support for my work, but to go through and reference everything I have written in this thread, would take a bit more time than I want to spend, with little return for my efforts. But as I have already stated to you, and which you obviously ignored, "if there is a certain point you are wondering on, let me know" I've been waiting on that.....

If you mean in regards to meditation and spiritual practice, here is a typical reference
http://books.google.ca/books?id=R4tStGjC...kti&f=false

Try this for a source Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt

There is more sources at Duke Center for Aging and Human Development

However, I don't think any of these sources do any comparison to the healing powers of cannabis. If you figure that one out ... then let me know.

Oh, I am sure the calming effects of cannabis have lessened incidents of suicide or murder, tremendously, ask a Cop how many times they get called out on domestic assolved assault cases that involved cannabis. I don't think any of those sources offer any adequate comparison to the science and documentation behind the healing powers of cannabis. Not really sure what your point was? If you figure that one out ... then let me know.