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#1647647 - 07/03/10 08:52 AM Re: Grow wizzard's 2010 outdoor ***** [Re: Grow_Wizzard]
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Originally Posted By: Grow_Wizzard
Because you are growing the main stem along the ground, the plant that would have been 15-20 feet tall (a sativa dominant plant) now only grows about 6-7 feet tall as long as a main branch from a tall plant. The trick is keeping the middle open to allow the light to the base of the plant. Puttin an X under the node or scraping the node you bury doesn't slow the growth at all, I used that for the first couple of spots, then just started to bury a node and it rooted.


Thanks Grow_Wizzard. Yes, I know about SOG, SCROG etc.

So is it only the main stem that you create additional rooting points on ? What sort of distance do you use between rooting points ?

Have you seen no noticeable difference then between scrape/X and just burying the stem nodes ?

When I consider new techniques for something, I often wonder if that technique can be taken to extremes. In this case, I guess that would entail eventually burying the whole main stem to get roots along the entire length.

I'm not sure it would make sense to bury the whole main stem at once. I'd think you'd want the side branches growing out of the soil/medium, and I'd guess that would require burying a bit at a time.

I'm not sure I'd want to risk my plants with this experiment. Do you think burying the whole main stem in this way might work, and be better than multiple rooting sites every 6-24 inches or whatever ?

Cheers !


Edited by phrike (07/03/10 08:58 AM)
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#1647692 - 07/03/10 12:34 PM Re: Grow wizzard's 2010 outdoor [Re: Grow_Wizzard]
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Loc: um, yeah, about that......
they all look very good and you'll be having one helluva harvest! wish i was there when that happens.
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#1647815 - 07/04/10 09:21 AM Re: Grow wizzard's 2010 outdoor [Re: blueridge_bandit]
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The new arrivals are definetly loving there new home and yes that ISMO is catching the AfgooxPBD, looking GREAT! Your gonna have one hell of a harvest buddy, your hard work is gonna pay off! Hows that pink Juan taste.. if you stuck your hand in the cookie jar yet?..lol. Well Wiz have a great 4th of July and keep up the great work. Oh ya, 3 out of 3 popped wink
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#1647903 - 07/04/10 06:36 PM Re: Grow wizzard's 2010 outdoor [Re: StealthBush]
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Phrike,
Main stem gets rooted every 4-6 nodes, branches get roots out every 6 to 12 inches, so no not just the main stem, main stem and branches get roots.
when the plant was scraped or X'ed and root hormone added they rooted a bit quicker, a day or two, than just burying a node.
I think if you buried the whole main stem you might get some mold or fungus issues, also, that would tend to make the branches want to grow up instead of to the side and would make more work and a longer wait time between training. By keeping sections of the main stalk above the ground it allows that portion to act semi normally.
I think root sites every 4-6 nodes is best for the main stem, and branches between 6 - 12 inch intervals works best.
Thanks for all of the GREAT questions, this will help you and anyone else checking into this thread or method of growing... great stuff... Try it You'll like it...hehehehehe

Bandit, Thanks for the kind words, could always use an extra set of hands at trim time...hehehe

Stealth, Yea the new arrivals seem to be doing well and both the ISMO and Afgoo X PBD are into their prime growth right with the longest days.. hehehe... No hands in the cookie jar yet, patients is the name of the cure game... would rather wait than taste hay...hehehe... 3 of 3 are good odds, 30 days and you should know sex...hehehe hope they are all girls for ya...

Thanks all for the kind words and a Happy 4th Holiday to all!!!
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#1647909 - 07/04/10 07:46 PM Re: Grow wizzard's 2010 outdoor [Re: Grow_Wizzard]
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Loc: um, yeah, about that......
if i could be where ever you were at trim time, i would be there lol.

happy independence day!
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#1648120 - 07/05/10 09:33 PM Re: Grow wizzard's 2010 outdoor [Re: blueridge_bandit]
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Bandit, from the looks of things your fingers will already be tired from trimmin all of your budz...hehehe but ya are welcome to come an trim...

Ok so who's got plans for New Years????? Gonna have a Nor Cal Ganja Ball at the fairgrounds, live music, best budz from harvest season, good folks, and a good time... Still in the planning stages, should have room for about 700 people give or take make ya plans now and ya new years eve will be the bomb.. Ya may even get a taste of some of my harvest....hehehe.... should be cured up fine by then...hehehe... let me know if interested...
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#1648126 - 07/05/10 10:10 PM Re: Grow wizzard's 2010 outdoor [Re: Grow_Wizzard]
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hmmm, I should be able to cross the border by then lol. I'm gonna have to get really stoned if there are gonna be that many ppl there blah
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#1648203 - 07/06/10 10:01 AM Re: Grow wizzard's 2010 outdoor [Re: ShaggnCana ]
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Loc: um, yeah, about that......
i think i may want to be tripping to nor cal on new years lol.
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#1648294 - 07/06/10 06:17 PM Re: Grow wizzard's 2010 outdoor [Re: blueridge_bandit]
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Hmmm good heads up on that, plenty of time to plan and save.. I would have to fly but sounds like a great time. Keep me posted on this. pass
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#1648343 - 07/06/10 11:40 PM Re: Grow wizzard's 2010 outdoor [Re: Grow_Wizzard]
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hey wizard,
we be there and can bring some buds also !!hahaha sounds like a good time for all let me know if we can help out in any way . ism
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