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#1590752 - 11/02/09 09:23 AM Re: An Update on My Testimony for Human Rights Sui [Re: Canadian Psycho]
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Originally Posted By: Canadian Psycho
Thank you Marko.

Am I right in interpreting your post to mean that you seek chances to the LLA to mean that licensees who hold a liquor license would be required to allow cannabis smoking in areas which allow tobacco smoking?

Cheers


Yes.

Originally Posted By: Canadian Psycho
Well, almost a week since the last post in this thread. I suppose no one really wants to explain the second component of this case. that's exceptionally disappointing because I'm very concerned that force and coercion is being used to bring business owners on board to the cause and I can guarantee that such a move will absolutely not work to make allies out of enemies. It will in fact make enemies out of allies and enemies out of those who perhaps weren't sure where to stand.

Hopefully I'm wrong but I'm not getting a good feeling about this case.

Cheers


I believe I answered it several times in my previous responses, but I answered it above to make sure you can see it.

If I have not attended to your questions, please explain what you need to know. Feel free to email me about this.
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#1590903 - 11/02/09 06:18 PM Re: An Update on My Testimony for Human Rights Sui [Re: Quazy420]
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No need Marko but thank you for the offer. You finally definitively answered me in your last post. Previous posts contained language which left me uncertain as to whether or not you were providing a choice.

Finally I am clear that you are not offering a choice but are demanding action of a business owner backed up by legislation that favours your demand. It's frankly reprehensible.
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#1591275 - 11/04/09 01:43 AM Re: An Update on My Testimony for Human Rights Sui [Re: Canadian Psycho]
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Go get them Marko.We deserve the SAME rights as anyone else. Some people just wont understand till they are put in the same spot.
Its funny,well not really funny at all, how some people can smell like a french whore house if they choose but someone taking their meds,so they can eat or sit or whichever,is wrong.Because of someone might not like the smell is put ahead of someone trying to have a better quality of life,thats disgusting.
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#1591445 - 11/04/09 02:30 PM Re: An Update on My Testimony for Human Rights Sui [Re: richi420]
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What is disgusting is the abuse of the coercive force of the state.

You don't have the "right" to shit and stink on another person's property no matter what the government says. The person who owns the property is the proper authority to determine what stink they are willing to tolerate.

The socialist mindset is what disgusts me.

You think your rights come from the government. A free man knows that it is we who give the government rights.

Canadian Psycho and I are libertarians and we have a big problem with people who want to abuse the coercive powers of the state to make free people do things they don't want to do.

Bottom line is you don't like it when Christian fundementalists abuse the coercive power of the state to keep you from smoking cannabis in the first place, but now that you have an exemption from that coercion, you have no problem abusing that coercive power of the government yourself.

You are a hypocrite of the highest order!

Instead of working to see an end to the abuse of state power, you are working to further empower the state by encouraging even further abuses.

You are the disgusting human being in my opinion.

It wouldn't matter how sick I was, I would still know that shitting on someone else was wrong.

So what makes you so special you think it is your right to shit on other people?

And I don't cut no slack for the sick. We need every man in the fight against this Holy War.

Remember that Star Trek episode where the show opens up with the Enterprise being warned that they entered a war zone and that they should leave immediately?

Kirk assures the planet's leader that the Enterprise is perfectly capable of defending themselves and that they see no immidiate danger.

When Kirk and Spock beam down they are arrested by the planet leaders and told that the Enterprise was destroyed in an attack and that he was to order every member of the Enterprize to beam down.

The two planets had "cleaned up" their war and fought with computer attacks. The people who were declared casualties in those computer attacks were ordered to show up at disintegration chambers to jump in and disintegrate.

Kirk and Spock eventually destroy the computer fighting the war and force the planet leaders to think about fighting a real war.

Then Kirk gives a great speech about how war is supposed to be bloody and stink and cause tears and heartbreak and all the other human emotions so that people would want to end war as soon as possible. The cleaned up war had carried on for two hundred years.

I'm told the idea of taking the wounded off the battlefield idea goes all the way back to Plato.

So you see, removing the sick from the drug war battlefield will not only prolong the war against the rest of us, it would seem that those who are now exempt are working against those of us still out here in the trenches.

So do you at least understand from my point of view why I have no respect for the Medicalizers?

You are fighting for medical serfdom and ought to be kicked in the nuts until you start fighting for your freedom with the rest of us.




Edited by Chris Buors (11/04/09 02:32 PM)
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#1591458 - 11/04/09 03:44 PM Re: An Update on My Testimony for Human Rights Sui [Re: richi420]
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Originally Posted By: richi420
Go get them Marko.We deserve the SAME rights as anyone else. Some people just wont understand till they are put in the same spot.
Its funny,well not really funny at all, how some people can smell like a french whore house if they choose but someone taking their meds,so they can eat or sit or whichever,is wrong.Because of someone might not like the smell is put ahead of someone trying to have a better quality of life,thats disgusting.


All I can do is sigh. You absolutely, positively, do not at all understand my position.

Cheers
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#1591469 - 11/04/09 04:05 PM Re: An Update on My Testimony for Human Rights Sui [Re: Canadian Psycho]
richi420 Offline
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I do understand your position, I believe I do anyways. I wasnt replying to what you wrote,I was just stateing how I feel.I believe that someone should have the right to do as they feel as long as it does not harm anyone else,but the major problem is,it's just not that way.We ALL are losing our freedoms abit everyday.
Now to the other guy who thinks that the business in on it own land. Even if you own land,the Canadian government actually owns it. The government can take your land no matter what you think or do,you could of paind in full and you still cant do anything.So,it's the governments property and thats who they are going against to change the law,which will also protect the business owner.If you dont like how something is why don't YOU actually go and do something about it instead of sitting on the computer and complaining about someone elses believe of freedom.Just 'cause you dont think its right does not make it wrong.
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#1591472 - 11/04/09 04:16 PM Re: An Update on My Testimony for Human Rights Sui [Re: richi420]
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Thanks for the response richi. I believe that Marko's case serves to help us along in losing our rights even further. Today we seek a limitation on the rights of the business owner to choose and tomorrow the business lobby may seek a similar type of injunction against us.

Chris is also fully aware (I believe) that property rights do not exist in Canada as they theoretically do in say the United States. He's simply espousing the position he thinks is morally correct and I do happen to agree with most of what he says. That Canadians do not actually own land they have paid for is quite disturbing. Far from being acceptable, it should actively be denounced as a flawed quality of our nation.

Cheers
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#1591474 - 11/04/09 04:21 PM Re: An Update on My Testimony for Human Rights Sui [Re: Canadian Psycho]
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That single fact would be enough to convince me to emigrate out of Canada. Disgusting system, obviously based in the "CROWN'S Divine right to OWN the world" blah blah blah.

Man, everyday I love living in the USA more and more.

We might have New oppressors, but at least the British system is no longer our system.
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#1591547 - 11/04/09 09:52 PM Re: An Update on My Testimony for Human Rights Sui [Re: richi420]
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Originally Posted By: richi420Go get them Marko.We deserve the SAME rights as anyone else. Some people just wont understand till they are put in the same spot.
Its funny,well not really funny at all, how some people can smell like a french whore house if they choose but someone taking their meds,so they can eat or sit or whichever,is wrong.Because of someone might not like the smell is put ahead of someone trying to have a better quality of life,thats disgusting.


Correctly interpreted by someone with a keen sense of political clout would be more than tempted to simply ban all smoking from any business property which does business with the population at large. What a coup that would be to demonize all smoking with a few strokes of the quill. Such a rendering would protect business owners most effectively because no smoking would be apploed equally accross the boards and the tobacco Nazis would cum their shorts at the prospect of following up with legal challenges to your medical marijuana program.

DOA in Obamaland.
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#1591598 - 11/05/09 06:14 AM Re: An Update on My Testimony for Human Rights Sui [Re: MrCleanscreens]
Luther Offline
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Originally Posted By: MrCleanscreens
Quote:
Originally Posted By: richi420Go get them Marko.We deserve the SAME rights as anyone else. Some people just wont understand till they are put in the same spot.
Its funny,well not really funny at all, how some people can smell like a french whore house if they choose but someone taking their meds,so they can eat or sit or whichever,is wrong.Because of someone might not like the smell is put ahead of someone trying to have a better quality of life,thats disgusting.


Correctly interpreted by someone with a keen sense of political clout would be more than tempted to simply ban all smoking from any business property which does business with the population at large. What a coup that would be to demonize all smoking with a few strokes of the quill. Such a rendering would protect business owners most effectively because no smoking would be apploed equally accross the boards and the tobacco Nazis would cum their shorts at the prospect of following up with legal challenges to your medical marijuana program.

DOA in Obamaland.


And so, that is what will happen. Here is a story about Saskatchewan's new smoking ban proposal. It includes vehicles with passengers and outdoor patios. Smoking is already banned in all public buildings and businesses.

http://www.leaderpost.com/health/Study+shows+smoking+really+burns+Saskatchewan/2154025/story.html


Edited by Luther (11/05/09 06:15 AM)

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