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#1590689 - 11/02/09 12:05 AM Re: all seeds can be female * [Re: sweetjohnny]
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it is one way. another way is put the method to the test. i won't be due to a lack of apple juice and skepticism. but by all means do try it, log it, take lots of pictures as proof too.
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#1590696 - 11/02/09 12:46 AM Re: all seeds can be female [Re: sweetjohnny]
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Would be nice to see proof that Spider Mite's increase THC content too.
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#1590773 - 11/02/09 10:37 AM Re: all seeds can be female [Re: CannadianxGrower]
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proof is what is needed. not speculation thats based on something else that may or may not be related. put your money where your mouth is, thats all. you gonna come here and say a friend of a friend of a friend who is the real deal greenthumb does this method with results then where is he at? thats who i wanna talk to.
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#1590879 - 11/02/09 04:49 PM Re: all seeds can be female [Re: blueridge_bandit]
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i've gotten a few email notifications on this thread, i've read it, and while i don't think anything contained herein is particularly malicious, is it somewhat unheard of.

how it went from using bananas to spraying your plants with apple juice, i don't quite know.

healthy debate is important, and absolutly critical in finding new ways to help our plants grow bigger and healthier. HOWEVER, just throwing out random suggestions without any science or proof to back it up is dangerous(especially to those just starting out and looking to soak up as much good information as possible, and not knowing how to separate bullshit from actual proven methods).

putting bananas in with your plants will bring fruit flies. they are a pain in the ass and i have no desire to suck bugs down my throat while i'm watering , etc. as for foliar feeding with apple juice, it is NOT a proven method, and while a few may claim it works, there could be a whole shitload of other things that may be affecting the plants growth. a simple spray with water may do as well as the apple juice, simply because you are giving the plant what it needs in terms of moisture, etc.

i will not use either method. i don't foliar feed, because i don't want to encourage mold growth, and i don't spray anything in my room due to issues with exploding bulbs. i'll pass on the bananas because, as i said, i don't need the hassle with the bugs.

ANYONE reading this thread must be aware, that as you read information posted in these forums, some of it is great info, some is so-so, and some of it is just straight bullshit. and it can be very difficult to separate them.

i wouldn't delete this thread, as it is critical to separating those who give solid advice from proven methods, and tards who throw shit out there as "good advice" because thier cousin's best friend's boyfriend said it worked for them.

i say continue the debate, and the real growers will eventually outshine those who are simply trying to pad thier newbie status with some hot new advice they think noone has heard yet, not realizing that they are polluting the forums and new growers minds with garbage that may be difficult to separate from fact later on.

if it smells like bullshit, it probably is. and this thread stinks...
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#1590899 - 11/02/09 06:03 PM Re: all seeds can be female [Re: stinkweed]
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Originally Posted By: stinkweed

healthy debate is important, and absolutly critical in finding new ways to help our plants grow bigger and healthier. HOWEVER, just throwing out random suggestions without any science or proof to back it up is dangerous(especially to those just starting out and looking to soak up as much good information as possible, and not knowing how to separate bullshit from actual proven methods).

Thank you, you've alleviated the frustration I've been getting over this thread.
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#1591271 - 11/04/09 12:58 AM Re: all seeds can be female [Re: CannadianxGrower]
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I have been growing cannabis for about 15 years and have been growing plants most of my life. I have also been studying plant biology and horticultuar for about 10 years now. I dont want to come off as a know-it-all or anything.Now like I said in my forst post, there are many holes in this ,ethod. in basic thought,it could seem like it would work.There are things that you can do outdoors that you wouldnt want to do indoors.You do NOT want to bring anything into your grow that will bring pests.Outdoors this is not as big as a problem due to other preditors-bats,spiders,ladybugs ect. The other problem is how this process actually works and like stinkweed said,the admount you would have to have is way to much,just one bannanna or apple will NOT be enought to make a differance.Using regular apple juice will not do this either as most apple juices have such a small amount of actual apples,I could see cold-pressed cider being a better idea but again the amounts you would have to use could/probally bring in unwanted pests,let alone like someone else staed,it would mess with your ph levels.I was going to try this,(against my better jugdement) but due to HOW your reacting to the other replies including your reply to me, just shows that you dont have a clue on what your talking about, that you probally just read this somewhere and thought you would spread the lies that are out there about growing and trying to sound more experience then you actually are. There is NOTHING wrong with being inexperienced but spreading lies or incorrect truths is wrong,there is so much crap out there about growing why would someone want to add to them?
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#1591274 - 11/04/09 01:30 AM Re: all seeds can be female [Re: sweetjohnny]
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Originally Posted By: sweetjohnny
420 ppl spay sugar on plants all the time those fancy high $$$$$$$$ folar sprays contain sugar have you heard of molesus( i can't spell ) and where's your evidence apple juice atracts un wanted insects , sound more like your trying to blow holes than good commonsence skeptizm.


yes I have heard of molasses,and have been using it for many,many years for gardening. Thanks for the help,smartass.
Molasses is differant then sugar or sucrose.There's major differance between sucrose and molasses,just like there is a differance from sugar beet molasses and sugar cane molassess.Just like there is a differance between cooking molassess and blackstrap molasses.
Now,which are you talking about the products that have molasses or the products that have sucrose or are you talking about some of them that have molassess with added sucrose?
"where's your evidence apple juice atracts un wanted insects ",this shows your inexperience and immaturaty. Do you have any idea on how pests get attracted to an area.
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#1591277 - 11/04/09 02:11 AM Re: all seeds can be female [Re: richi420]
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"if you have RESPECTFUL QUESTIONS i can explain why it works ."
"i can only say it works"


Also why would you continue to a month before harvest, when the female parts should show 1 month plus to that?
You're not making any sense n00b.

lol


Edited by AdamH420 (11/04/09 02:13 AM)
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#1591460 - 11/04/09 03:47 PM Re: all seeds can be female [Re: AdamH420]
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[quote=AdamH420Also why would you continue to a month before harvest, when the female parts should show 1 month plus to that?
You're not making any sense n00b.

lol [/quote]
Thats the same question I asked and he wouldnt answer.
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#1591505 - 11/04/09 05:54 PM Re: all seeds can be female [Re: ineffable420]
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Originally Posted By: ineffable420
i'm very curious to see a result because the pH of apple juice is so low (3.3 at highest)... 'nuff said.
thats a good ? not sure . ifom says put some juice in a sprayer , spray plants then delute with tap that will corect any ph , thank you for a reasonable resonce

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