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#1467214 - 11/17/08 03:08 PM Re: Slave labour the way of the future. ***** [Re: cascadian]
Canatheist Offline
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I think the high black prison population is mainly not so much a result of racial and cultural difference as it is a class issue... Poor people end up in jail more then people who aren't. While most certainly poor people could get jobs etc they don't mainly as a result of how they grew up... Other aspects do contribute to a perpetual underclass such as racism and fear etc.

If you were a kid who grew up watching pimps and drug dealers make easy cash and your not exposed to positive role models or a healthy situation at home you would likely end up on the wrong path.

Expect the population of all other minorities including whites to increase inside jails... As people become increasingly impoverished rime will also increase.

This all being said no country is perfect but those who claim theirs is the best and others suck have likely never been anywhere else.
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#1500836 - 02/13/09 09:41 AM Re: Slave labour the way of the future. [Re: neutralsam]
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I was in court the other day with my freind,who was busted for growing.(yes he does have a medical permit)But any way there was this 22 or 23yr old guy who definatly has a serious drug problem, he shoots anything he can apparently. He had been kicked out of a couple rehabs and then jailed for shooting up his Behaveier control meds at this particular facility. So instead of realizing the severity of this mans problem, the judge who used to be the pross. atty in this county in washington state, and who I had to deal with several years ago and is nothing but a lying piece of crap, told this kid that well so and so tried to help you and you failed, so you get the maximum, and gave this kid 34 months in prison. Apparantly they think he can"t get stuff in there to shoot. yah right. If you ask me and they did"nt. He needed to be hospitalized not prisoned... but this is just my opinion....the world according to Bud... burnout
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#1508550 - 03/04/09 10:11 PM Re: Slave labour the way of the future. [Re: burnout]
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I think black people go to jail,cause they usually sell drugs due to trying to survive in shit hole neighborhoods that wont give them jobs..
not always goin to jail for drugs tho.. some get caught shootin people,and other stupid shit you end up gettin into when you stand on a corner 12 hrs a day... or longer

btw.. I am white.. and I couldnt get a fuckin job.. and I looked.. oh there were jobs.. I can line the shit out of some interviews.. but there are over qualifeid people out of work..
I feel like smackin dude that said poor people can just go get jobs.. no shit eh..? Where? I been all over fuckin america.. every god damn coast.. you tell me where you stupid motherfucker.. you think I sell drugs cause i want too? you think I came to this shit ass,cold,hindu populated,expensive,boring fuckin country if there were jobs back in the states that would hire me?? do me a favor.. bang your head off the concrete for me real good.. and we will be cool...
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#1530507 - 05/01/09 08:39 PM Re: Slave labour the way of the future. [Re: smokindago]
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i think that basically sums that up.. lol
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#1546065 - 06/15/09 11:25 PM Re: Slave labour the way of the future. [Re: smokindago]
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Registered: 06/15/09
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Loc: Duncan BC, CANADA
I really do fear that with bill C-15 we are moving ever closer to the problems in America privatized prisons are something to be feared for sure and the Capitalist business model that America seems so exited about is not something for Canada to desire. Social branches such as health care should be supported very seriously if we want Canada's infrastructure to allow for things like marijuana legalization social democrats like Marijuana Party and the NDP. Marijuana could bring in the economic security to bring in responsible, stable social programs and to stay away from things like private prisons and becoming a perpetual welfare state.


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#1546154 - 06/16/09 08:35 AM Re: Slave labour the way of the future. [Re: ZachB]
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harper is effectively making the younger generation of canadians lose their nationalistic pride with c15 and his other dinosaur decisions like cutting arts funding, thanks i really enjoyed watching trailer park boys, corner gas and other canadian shows but hey lets just send more of our money to the americans instead of establishing good quality canadian entertainment, shows employ thousands of people. you all realize c15 is just something to increase how much the police make, they will be robbing peoples assets all over the place,

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#1547276 - 06/19/09 09:04 PM Re: Slave labour the way of the future. [Re: Canatheist]
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Originally Posted By: Canatheist
I think the high black prison population is mainly not so much a result of racial and cultural difference as it is a class issue... Poor people end up in jail more then people who aren't. While most certainly poor people could get jobs etc they don't mainly as a result of how they grew up... Other aspects do contribute to a perpetual underclass such as racism and fear etc.

If you were a kid who grew up watching pimps and drug dealers make easy cash and your not exposed to positive role models or a healthy situation at home you would likely end up on the wrong path.

Expect the population of all other minorities including whites to increase inside jails... As people become increasingly impoverished rime will also increase.

This all being said no country is perfect but those who claim theirs is the best and others suck have likely never been anywhere else.


Reforms and responsible social programs such as subsidized or publicized post-secondary education would end this countinual cycle of poverty allowing equal opertunities

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#1548815 - 06/24/09 11:22 PM Re: Slave labour the way of the future. [Re: ZachB]
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Registered: 06/15/09
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Adding to the hypocrisy to the Canadian penal system is now the issue of the proposed reform paying inmates to undergo drug and criminal rehabilitation. This statement alone shows that currently Canada is not working hard enough on rehabilitation from crime and drugs. People shouldn't be paid to receive treatment for things such as sexual crimes and violent offenses and neither should drug addicts. People willing to seek help should receive it and those who don't want it are the ones that should be in jail. I'd be curious to find out what current policies are on marijuana since hash is a major craze in prisons not that anyone smoking hash needs rehab.

Canada would be wasting thousands of dollars on incentives for criminals that should be done through other methods. Sexual criminals are exempt from the general population so their not killed because even criminals know how morally out of whack these people are. Years of extensive rehabilitation may be able to help them and remaining exempt from the general population should be the only incentive they need to receive treatment. Cash initiatives will increase the drug flow in prison and help very few from reforming.

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#1578475 - 09/22/09 11:40 PM Re: Slave labour the way of the future. [Re: ZachB]
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Mark you don't know anything about the justice system. You are a pot smoking money making entrepreneur. You sell the seeds that put people in prison. Yes Mark, you have contributed to putting thousands into prison! Hows that for ya? But you got the pockets full of cash, and bullshit popularity that you cant live without.

What do you do anyways? What have you done? You are an uneducated, failed wanna be politician. You write bullshit on your own forum, and lies, non-sense. Please Mark, dont lower yourself any further.

Lets agree to disagree.

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#1578502 - 09/23/09 03:37 AM Re: Slave labour the way of the future. [Re: jfoj]
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quote [Yes Mark, you have contributed to putting thousands into prison! Hows that for ya? But you got the pockets full of cash, and bullshit popularity that you cant live without.]


what kind of moron are you

1st of Marc didnt force people to buy seeds of him , he supplied a quality product

2nd they went after him for giving the money away

3rd can we get a moderater to get rid of this leo scumbag?
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