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#1574516 - 09/10/09 04:14 PM Re: Bud's tv a smash hit... 17 viewers.. ***** [Re: Scented Nectar]
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Originally Posted By: Scented Nectar
Originally Posted By: Fred_the_Plumber
The courts are not your authority, you are the courts authority. I guess some can't understand that no man has authority over another unless granted that power by the one choosing to be under that authority.

You claim to have authority over the courts. When did they grant you that power?



It came with being born. who gave them authority to rule over us? oh yeah we didnt we got deceived all of us.
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#1574520 - 09/10/09 04:25 PM Re: Bud's tv a smash hit... 17 viewers.. [Re: Fred_the_Plumber]
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Originally Posted By: Fred_the_Plumber
Originally Posted By: WeedWitch420
IF I understand correctly (and I likely do not, as this is a very confusing topic, to me, personally), then why would the court need to issue an estopple for a Freeman?

In the hierarchy someone previously posted (sorry, I forgot whom, as this thread is voluminous), they indicated God was at the top, and the courts/government (I honestly forget which) was in third. The initially vacant second position was claimed by the Freeman-on-the-Land.

Therefore, the courts/government would have no authority by which to 'issue' the Freeman's estoppel, IF I understand correctly (and again, I very well might not).

Am I at least on the right track here, Fred?



Exactly... You have the authority to claim these rights. If done in a lawful manner. The courts are not your authority, you are the courts authority. I guess some can't understand that no man has authority over another unless granted that power by the one choosing to be under that authority.
This is born out with reason and careful thought.

Peace...
Fred.


The only thing is, it just doesn't pan out in the courts....... and people like Bud Oracle and Marc Boyer pay the price for unsubstantiated "claims" made by the likes of you.
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#1574532 - 09/10/09 04:59 PM Re: Bud's tv a smash hit... 17 viewers.. [Re: chrisbennett]
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Yeah; I'm not sure about how this all works in practice, but it seems sound THEORETICALLY at least.
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#1574535 - 09/10/09 05:07 PM Re: Bud's tv a smash hit... 17 viewers.. [Re: WeedWitch420.1]
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Originally Posted By: WeedWitch420
Yeah; I'm not sure about how this all works in practice, but it seems sound THEORETICALLY at least.


One thing to remember is that no one in this debate is a lawyer, so it's a hard call as to how it is even is THEORETICALLY for someone not immersed in law, such as myself. But regardless of that, it is being touted as working, without ever had that litany test of a court case, or a open and running cannabis serving cafe, or some other such thing. those who have tried this method in relation to cannabis, such as Bud Oracle and Marc Boyer, made such claims about their rights and that they were unbustable, and were proven wrong, and no one has given a point by point as to why they failed if this works.
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#1574589 - 09/10/09 07:31 PM Re: Bud's tv a smash hit... 17 viewers.. [Re: chrisbennett]
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"Marc Scott Emery is thinking the 'Freeman on the Land' people led by Robert Menard are insane & living on Planet MakeBelieve. I hear from these idiots every day." what a nice fellow just to point out theyre is a chris that likes this on facebook maybe bennet..1 flavour activism as emery sees it or else perhaps is the song and dance.


Edited by roundhousekick (09/10/09 07:31 PM)
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#1574602 - 09/10/09 07:46 PM Re: Bud's tv a smash hit... 17 viewers.. [Re: roundhousekick]
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Originally Posted By: roundhousekick
Via Facebook

"Marc Scott Emery is thinking the 'Freeman on the Land' people led by Robert Menard are insane & living on Planet MakeBelieve. I hear from these idiots every day." what a nice fellow just to point out theyre is a chris that likes this on facebook maybe bennet..1 flavour activism as emery sees it or else perhaps is the song and dance.


Good thing I have never had a facebook or myspace account. What drivel.
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#1574609 - 09/10/09 08:23 PM Re: Bud's tv a smash hit... 17 viewers.. [Re: chrisbennett]
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I have to agree with Chris here.. Mark Boyer is an example of a 'free-man' not being recognized by the authorities... I did however see Bud the Oracle walk in and out of a courtroom (while wearing his cap) and the authorities did nothing to stop him (his old person was due to appear that day)...so the count is out for Bud.

Mark Boyer claimed that them sending him to prison this time was the clearest indication that Canada had effectively shown we are now under tyrannical rule once again...now and forever slaves to the economy..

The legal oath was changed from 'under god' to 'under money' essentially by removing God from the oath (or at least any moral principle of upholding God in some way). So now the oath upholds parliamentary rule (minority power through orders in council) for the purposes of growing the economy at the cost of people...some must suffer!

I have to say I've personally been witness to the court events and the documents that show the judge in one case of Marcs, came to a written conclusion of Guilt, before his trial - and it was entered into record...yes, before!!

Now I know we're supposed to have the right to a fair trial - but in this instance (and I'm assured there are many others) - Marc couldn't of had a fair trial as the judge determined guilt before the event. Clearly the judge was told to find him guilty from 'higher authorities' - that's why she entered it into record!

The very fact they also use a gag order to ensure no press would ever write about these crimes committed by authorities...well I do wonder how long it took for Germany to fall into tyranny without anyone noticing?

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#1574612 - 09/10/09 09:07 PM Re: Social parasites on welfare posing as Freemen [Re: chrisbennett]
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Originally Posted By: chrisbennett
ahhh, poor little fella.


For a supposed expert on all things religous and spiritual, you sure are an arrogant fuck.
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#1574616 - 09/10/09 09:26 PM Re: Social parasites on welfare posing as Freemen [Re: Duffy Moon]
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Originally Posted By: Duffy Moon
Originally Posted By: chrisbennett
ahhh, poor little fella.


For a supposed expert on all things religous and spiritual, you sure are an arrogant fuck.


There's no need for us to start that discussion Duffy though I appreciate some one making the observation I felt tempted to make.

Cheers
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#1574633 - 09/10/09 10:01 PM Re: Social parasites on welfare posing as Freemen [Re: Duffy Moon]
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Originally Posted By: Duffy Moon
Originally Posted By: chrisbennett
ahhh, poor little fella.


For a supposed expert on all things religous and spiritual, you sure are an arrogant fuck.


Haha, you should read my books, organized religon is humanity's greatest stumbling block
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