I'm wondereing if anyone has ever grown Thai Super Skunk from G13 labs or another sativa close to it.

My problem is I have one of these plants that I'm training under a scrog. It's about 7 weeks old from seed and really big. All my other plants(Indica strains from seed) preflowered at about 4 weeks and have been in the flowering room for about 3 weeks now.

I left this sativa plant in the veg room for another week or so till I was nearly certain it was showing it's first hair......then put it in the flower room asap because it was getting so damn big.


Now it's been in the flower room under 600w hps @12/12 for 2 weeks+ now and what I thought was a hair turned out not to be!

The thing is getting super huge and not flowering! All my other Cheese and NYCD are budding but this one just refuses to flower! It had a sister that was male and showed balls at the time I started flowering the crop but this damn thing is just growing bigger and bigger, filling up my scrog fast.....and I'm starting to get worried.

If this thing turns out to be male, It's gonna be a pain training the others over to fill its screen holes.

I'm also a little worried because I read in the bible that flowering a plant before it shows signs of presex can confuse it and lead to herm.


Is 3-4 weeks in flower for a pure sativa plant normal for it to start showing hairs?


If I wasent training this on a scrog, i'd estimate this plant would be at least 3' tall, maybe 4'!

What gives with this strain?

This is a monster strain, expect heights beyond 6 feet. At 5 weeks this strain should show lots of hairs but no real bud, this one is going to take alot of time but from what i read it is worth the wait. Always scrog with clones, this way you dont have males in the screen, with a monster strain like this it can be a pain in the ass. your looking at 12-14 weeks for this strain if it has a bit of indica, if you are sure it is 100% sativa you could be looking at 16 weeks.

i dont think it would make it herm, people go 12/12 from seed in microgrows with no prob

<if you are sure it is 100% sativa you could be looking at 16 weeks>

Well from what I've read it's Sativa / Indica: Mixed but Mostly Sativa.

<i dont think it would make it herm, people go 12/12 from seed in microgrows with no prob>

Thanks man, that makes me feel a little bit better...everything on this huge mofo is pointing towards female.....super big and no hairs yet, and it dosen't smell that much. The male I had of the same strain showed balls along time ago and it really reaked like pungent skunk bad.

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Although this is my first grow, my room is state of the art...I got plenty of head room in my flowering side that is 4'x10' with a high ceiling. I could have easily grown this strain with no training, but I wanted more tops and was bending nearly every top to get it to turn into a bush, encourage lower growth, and maximize my light penetration. And after using insulated copper wire all over the place to keep it uniform I came to the conclusion that a screen would just make it easier for me rather than having to tie down each shoot. My screen is 3'x3' and has 4 plants in it under one light, and it's working sweet, and nearly full.....although this plant is taking over and must have at least 20 potential tops......yet not a hair to be seen yet!


I've read that as a general rule males show themselves sooner than females of the same strain and age.....So I'm hoping that she is a lady since the other SS I had turned male weeks ago and they were neck and neck the entire way.


I have a few other SS in the cloner right now and when they get there.....I'll fire up my other 600w light when I have to...right now I'm just running one covering roughly half of my flower room.

I plan on perpetual growth all the way, harvesting a few, then moving a few clones under the screen....trying to keep it going and make the best use of my veg room/flower room setup.

Although this strain, with it's long flowering time, might not be the strain for my situation.....these seeds were free so I fugured what the hell, I got plenty of room for them i'll give it a shot.

Sure wish I could post some pictures.....but alas I live in the states and I'm one of those scared types that surfs with a proxy and haven't found a way to post pictures with a proxy, most of the popular sites don't allow it. I like the fact that nobody knows my hobby, I fugure not letting anyone know, and using a proxy to browse the net and post....is the best security measure for keeping my ops under wraps.

Ok I'm rambling now.

Anyone know a way to post pics anonymously?

In my experience some sativas are very sensitive to age. As in they have to have an advanced level of maturity before they will flower. Likely because they mainly come from equatorial areas of the planet were 12/12 is normal lighting for them. Plus they can grow to amazing sizes.

You will likely notice faster flowering from clones taken from this mother as they will be older and more likely to be ready to flower.

I don't mind waiting the extra 4-5 weeks as my KaliMist X makes such good cookies. The Kush should be ready in a couple of weeks and I'm looking forward to a more narcotic buzz to help with persistent insomnia.

The Kali seems great to fight the depression I've been going through for the last thirty years.

48 days in flower and counting.

Be patient, it's worth it!

Hope it's a girl.

You have just learned why a scrog works best with clones. If you had all confirmed females, you would not be having the problem you have now.

Not really man. I'm pretty sure it's a female. And this being my first grow, it would be kind of hard to have clones in this batch...

My cloner is kickin for sure....and soon my room will be dude free.

My problem is the size of this plant. It is a monster. My scrog is still in training...meaning I am still pushing tops down and filling up the screen. It would be a piece of cake to remove it if it turns male, but then that would add some time training the others to fill it's space.


Grow 2, I plan on only putting the female cheese and nycd clones in the screen, and any sativa I grow I plan on just putting them on the outsides of the screen, tying them down on the perimeter and having them grow like a vine essentually along the sides. My room is 4'4" wide exactly....and my screen is 3'x3'. So I plan on just growing the sativa along the sides, which still get pretty good light considering the room is lined with mylar and a 600watt hps with good reflective material can light up a 4'4"x4'4" area no prob.

I have another light ready to go when I need it, and that will be soon because my veg room has 2,3, and 4 week old vegging plants...and a 12 spot cloner that is full and working nicely.


But yeah.....even if i was certain this plant was a female...that wouldn't really do much for my major issue.....that growing a monster sativa plant with mostly pure indica, obvisouly causes some issues with differnt plant sizes and maturity levels. This is the last plant that I grew from seed that hasen't shown sex yet....not like I have a shitload of undertermined sexes in the flower room. This one just hapens to not want to show a hair for me. I think the equalateral climate that it came from is playing a part, as was suggested by Labrat(thanks bro)...that a plant coming from an equalateral climate is harder or impossible to force to flower with a 12/12 photoperiod because it's from an area that is 12/12 damn near all year long. So the maturity of the plant is the deciding factor on when it buds as opposed to photoperiod. And the fact that it's sister plant that was the same size and age, grown under the same conditions with the same grow nutes and lighting, turned male long ago.....I think that's a good sign for me that this one will be fem.

I'm FIM'ing the shit out of the sativa in my veg room now...trying to keep them low and bushy so I don't run into the same problem of a huge plant taking over my flower room, and more specifically my screen if I can scrog these sativa ladies.

Maybe I just scratch the sativa all together? I dunno...so beautiful and lush, I'll have to make room somewhere somehow......

Please don't scratch your plans with this plant! I, too, am interested in how this strain will grow and perform. There are quite a few posts of people asking and wondering how to grow out a 12-14 week sativa.

Most people, I assume, got these seeds as a "freebee" from the "Attitude", but I have yet to hear from, or see of, a reliable grow or results.

I, as well as many others, would love to see some pics!

It might be nice to start a thread dedicated to this strain of "freebees"!

Dig it!

Okay
1) pure sativa and a hybrid on the sativa dominant side will take a long time to finish. Is it worth it? YES
2) try 11 1/2 om 12 1/2 off it may help you may even require 13 off to get her to start sooner if you are in a hurry.
3) most sativa I find take a long time to start flowering I have had some take 4 weeks until the started to show.
4) Will you be able to harvest all the indicas and not effect the sativa? she will take 2x as long.

So last night my wife was in there helping me with the screen, pushing tops, trimming leaves to open up light to some lower tops etc.....and oops, she breaks a stem with about 5 tops on it....I was a little upset till we inspected it and sure enough found hairs! Stoked. ...my entire scrog is female......and from now on my entire grow for that matter.

Sativa hairs and indica hairs definitaly show a little different. These sativa hairs are very thin and nearly translucent when they first pop, hard as hell to spot, where as the indica hairs are fat and white right out of the gate.

<Most people, I assume, got these seeds as a "freebee" from the "Attitude", but I have yet to hear from, or see of, a reliable grow or results.>

For sure, these seeds came free from my attitude order. They were very small, and not too dark, so I really didnt have high expectations when I germinated them.....but from day one they were the biggest and outright stoutest ones I have. If anyone is growing legally in the states and is restricted to a total number of plants....I would highly suggest giving these suckers a try....I counted tonight and this plant has 25 tops on my screen right now, while the next closest is a Blue Cheese that has 12.


<Will you be able to harvest all the indicas and not effect the sativa? she will take 2x as long>

This is my next problem that I have to deal with. I was planning on having a 3 part perpetual grow, where basically I would keep 3 stages of plants...so I can harvest buds every month. After thinking this through a little more, this might not work that well with a scrog because if I harvest a few under the screen and replace them with early flowering ones, I'll end up with the exact thing I started a scrog to avoid......higher tops getting good light and lower tops getting so-so light.

I'm thinking when I harvest the Blue Cheese, I'll just cut out the section of the screen that it occupied and put a new plant in it's spot that's been grown normally, maybe fim'd a few times...that way I can put the new plant on a stepstool and position the top of it at the height of the scrog tops...Then when the sativa is ready, I'll cut another piece of screen and just redo it for the next batch(I used 1x1 fir scraps to make the square screen, it has a wire fastned in the middle pulling it down and making it concave, and 4 legs that keep it at the right height....just a matter of removing the staples I used to fasten it and replacing the screen.


<I, as well as many others, would love to see some pics!>

Dude, to say i'm jonesing to show off my room is the understatement of the universe. I'm a contractor and built this room from scratch just for growing, it's not like a converted attic or closet... I got a 3'6x10' veg/clone room...4'6x10' flower room. All built with standard 2x4 construction, fully insulated, soundproofed, sheetrocked, and mylar on all the walls with a white tarp on the floor..all in my basement where it stays nice and cool..I ran a dedicated 20 amp circuit for all my equipment with outlets on the ceiling for perfect routing of all the wires. I'm running 4@4' 54 watt t5 floros and a 65 watt compact floro for my veg and clones(using a diy aeroponic cloner that's the size of a shoebox and holds 12...keeping the water temps down by using a 5 gallon bucket as the res, so the cloner "box" just holds the sprayers and not the water...that way it stays up on my veg table with the rest of the vegging plants and I get the perfect distance from the floros for all)...My veg table looks basically like a home built microwave stand, that has a grill that the plants sit on that is above a graded and rubber lined tray that has a drain in it that flows into a bucket...so good watering is a breeze due to that fact that any runnoff just flows down and into the bucket. I'm running a 6" can fan ventilating both rooms, with the air intake on the veg side that goes through a lightproof hole in the partition wall to the flower side...in the carbon filter, through 2x600w hps air cooled hoods and out of my house. Went with soil this time, thanks to many suggestions about it being the easiest and most forgiving for the beginner...but have plans to convert all hydro, ebb and flow.

If ANYONE has an idea on how to post pictures using a proxy or some other secure way...hit me up! As it is right now, I just can't see any way to do it without leaving a trace...and living in the United States Of Communist Conservative Fuckheads with our draconian drug laws....I just don't want to take any chances, even though the urge to post my massive picture collection is just painful....any ideas?