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#1535240 - 05/15/09 11:35 AM Re: A Trip to the House Justice Committee [Re: bud oracle]
Jack A. Roe Offline
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Bidding for licenses? You do have a commercially minded spirit--here I'd thought the Guild would give the things away to men an women of good character--and honorary memberships to approved societies =]
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#1535246 - 05/15/09 11:49 AM Re: A Trip to the House Justice Committee [Re: Jack A. Roe]
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well until the next Parliament I agree these are personal perceptions covering a wide range of the spectrum. there may be other more viable considerations develop to be tabled. I say the whole presumption of setting up a guild in the first place was to set up a legal controlled commercial venue for what was illegal. I hope we get lots of input and have new members voice their opinions at the next parliament.

One of the considerations for bidding is that I have a current debt of $84 for printing to consider that I have shouldered on the Society's behalf.

The other thing to consider is that favoritism could be said to govern your methods although altruistic in ideology.

Also we don't wish to shoulder the risk of future court cost should anyone be arrested on behalf of the society without sufficient funds in outr coffers and one sure way everyone understanding their roles is that they participate in a free market, imo.


Also bidding would see to it that the bidder carefully weighed the risks against the the advantages and made his own choices behind which they stood.

Currently on my 3rd day off I am getting airborne on some good psychedelics and am finding the keyboard beyond my capapabilitiesu.


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#1535255 - 05/15/09 12:13 PM Re: A Trip to the House Justice Committee [Re: bud oracle]
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Enjoy the trip, Bud!
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#1535260 - 05/15/09 12:29 PM Re: A Trip to the House Justice Committee [Re: Jack A. Roe]
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That is a curious response, considering you have expressed to me that you would like to see my shop busted, possibly initiating such a matter yourself, attempting to post what might be considered "incriminating" information for selling what you call "tripdrugs" in the form of plants that have been used by man for thousands of years.

Btw, Peruvian Torch and other San Pedro relatives are equally sacred to peyote and have been used in shamanic cermonies for thousands of years. why are you against such sacraments being made available to people over the age of 18?
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#1535266 - 05/15/09 01:07 PM Re: A Trip to the House Justice Committee [Re: chrisbennett]
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"That is a curious response, considering you have expressed to me that you would like to see my shop busted, possibly initiating such a matter yourself, attempting to post what might be considered "incriminating" information for selling what you call "tripdrugs" in the form of plants that have been used by man for thousands of years."

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I don't think I'd like that.
Where's this post?
In any case, don't believe everything you read in TIME Magazine, as it were. If I did, I'd believe you truly hated my neck beard =]

"Btw, Peruvian Torch and other San Pedro relatives are equally sacred to peyote and have been used in shamanic cermonies for thousands of years. why are you against such sacraments being made available to people over the age of 18?"

I'm not, though I dunno, quite frankly, that 18 is the right age.

To be clear, I believe peaceful possession is a right not predicated of the object's category but simply of its thinghood. One has the right to peaceful possession of things; thus, tripdrugs of all sorts are included. That's my view---I guess "Libertarian", sort of.
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#1535268 - 05/15/09 01:10 PM Re: A Trip to the House Justice Committee [Re: Jack A. Roe]
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That would be the post I deleted.

So one has a right to hold a nuclear weapon?

I agree with the tripdrugs part. Prohibition has never worked.
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#1535272 - 05/15/09 01:28 PM Re: A Trip to the House Justice Committee [Re: chrisbennett]
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"That would be the post I deleted."

Fair enough---IMO there is something strange about referring to a deleted post. IIRC the post was a response to you suggesting my use of "tripdrugs" somehow marked me as a collaborator---I think my vocab may make me strange, but I am not a collaborator with prohibitionists.

"So one has a right to hold a nuclear weapon?"

This is the issue I have---I am thinking that all societies with positive drug policy should also have acts forbidding their members from possessing radioisotopes except in connection with their profession or other calling. Do you have a view on this? Whether or not we like it, one does indeed have the right to hold a nuclear weapon, imo. Of course, one also has the right to do a great many things---in society, however, what one may do is abrogated for the benefit of the whole.

In my view, "we must regulate radioisotope possession" is not really a good premise from which to conclude "therefore we may regulate all other peaceful possession at will."

"I agree with the tripdrugs part. Prohibition has never worked."

Agreed. I think we prob. agree on most substantial policy issues, actually. Except neck beards, you're clearly opposed; but I've got to be me!
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#1535286 - 05/15/09 01:56 PM Re: A Trip to the House Justice Committee [Re: Jack A. Roe]
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Hey somebody has to be you, so it might as well be you and if the neck beard fits, wear it with pride.
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#1535362 - 05/15/09 06:50 PM Re: A Trip to the House Justice Committee [Re: chrisbennett]
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I love seeing the uninhibited exchange of thought here. Am just now landing again after meeting some stellar people gaining a wealth of insight: Seek and ye shall find.

what a lovely day, eh!

I have read THE ARTICLES SEVERAL TIMES AND UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF GOD, I AM IT.

This is a scary thought to me. It makes me reflect on the authority of the office invested in me and all my frailties/inadequacies.

This Jack/Robin character has skillfully hung this mantel about the old Oracle without him really being aware of what was happening. I mean a guy that can stage this play and its actors to appear on demand is amazing to me. check out the role call of our second Parliament. Why lo and behold, all members of the House of Commons Justice committee and all persons present at the Arbutus meeting who heard the proclamation were informed by our society. this was our well attended second parliament.

I have never flown anything before but single seat aircraft and all of the sudden I seem to be flying the Social Starship Deuteronomy with my ever devious/unpredictable/amusingly prickly first officer The Registrar.

I really don't undersAND WHY HE GETS UNDER YOUR SKIN SO MUCH? cAPITALS ARE AN lsd KEYBOARDING ERROR.

I just ignore him sometimes, as I recommend you do every one else from time to time, including me.

Today, I realized that this society is not a democracy as yet and that all power after God is vested within the Office of Chief Justice.

Upon reconsideration I will not give up my role nor divest myself of this responsibility. I have often complained about there being no leadership in our society and now I find that if someone corralled me into this role it must be written. No way am I letting go of this spaceship yet, although I don't wish to linger once I have done my thing.

I call on all for their input, but I will have final say. I will do my utmost to see that it is fair and well thought out when performing my official functions.

It looks like the courtroom for the next parliament is booked. The official announcements will be posted by the registrar after we have met.

Today's trip was a great flow of conversion with some very stimulating people. I had done about 150 mics of lsd with 2 grams of schrooms (a first for me) The trip was a rich stew visual distortions along with perceptions on both lofty cerebral and deeply spiritual plains.

Still can't fathom why these substances would be illegal and alcohol legal.

I don't wish to belong to such an absurd society any longer, that's for sure.

Join us! climb aboard! It's wonderful being free from such insanity.

Two plainclothes walked by as I was stoking my pipe sitting at the benches at Trout lake. I smiled and saluted them with my pipe, but they were not interested in joining me, I guess. A guy asked How I was so sure.

I'm an Oracle, Chief Justice! How would I be here and not know such evidential things? If it walks, talks and sounds like a duck it likely is a duck.

George had left to heal by then(just out of his cast). He and "Timex" his fur covered soul, would know. We both had a former acquaintance in common, Lester B Pearson. Although he wasn't a toker I felt so close to him at times that I kept offering him the pipe of Kush. We had intermittent female dog owners to chat with as well. How grand it is to be alive on a spring day, eh!


Edited by bud oracle (05/15/09 07:35 PM)

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#1535374 - 05/15/09 07:51 PM Re: A Trip to the House Justice Committee [Re: bud oracle]
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Bud, your goodwill definitely outweighs your illusions of grandeur. Sounds like a good trip.

Believe me, I take none of this forum stuff to seriously, it's a guilty pleasure and distraction away from my real work.

The Book of Deuteronomy was one of the biggest scams in the history of religion.
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