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#1618534 - 02/18/10 08:54 PM Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commo [Re: escapegoat]
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Originally Posted By: escapegoat
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We will reintroduce in their original form the consumer safety law (Bill C-6) and the anti-drug-crime law (Bill C-15) that the Ignatieff Liberals gutted.


Guess we will see if Ignatieff has the gonads to stand up to this bad bill. Time to start contacting your Liberal MPs!


Why would you they backed it? Kinda odd that the Liberals backed it then the Conservatives said that..... Like wtf? I'm not in Canada can someone update me with wtf is going on here. I'm confused with all of this now. So the bill is dead or just kinda on hold?

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#1618692 - 02/19/10 02:53 PM Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commo [Re: Sexay]
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The bill died when the Conservative government prorogued parliament.
They are vowing to reintroduce it UNCHANGED when parliament resumes in March.
The fight begins again.

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#1618790 - 02/20/10 12:29 AM Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commo [Re: 420for33yrs]
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For us or for them? I mean considering what only 2 people opposed it and didn't vote on it from the liberals... We have a right center liberal party now so I kinda doubt the NDP or Bloc will be able to stop it. Layton decided to go all anti Emery last election whats the point. Pretty sure this is going to pass, or is there signs of any mps finding some balls?

I feel safer in the US to grow and smoke that I would in Canada. That's pretty f'ed up right there.

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#1621264 - 03/02/10 05:58 AM Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commo [Re: Sexay]
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Webpage: http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/story.html?id=2629528

Newshawk: CMAP http://www.mapinc.org/cmap
Pubdate: Tuesday, March 2, 2010
Source: National Post (Canada)
Contact: letters@nationalpost.com
Contact: http://drugsense.org/url/O3vnWIvC
Website: http://www.nationalpost.com/
Author: Shannon Kari

Crime bills to be scrutinized, Liberals warn

No Easy Passage

By Shannon Kari, National Post

One of the stated reasons for the prorogation of Parliament was that the resetting of
Senate committees would better allow the Tories to pass their crime legislation, parts
of which had been held up in the Upper Chamber in the past.

But the Liberal justice critic says his party is not going to approve speedy passage of
all the crime legislation through the House of Commons -- even if that leads to
accusations of being labeled "soft on crime" -- when Parliament resumes this week.

"What you are going to see in the coming weeks is a more focused discussion from us,"
said Dominic LeBlanc. "We are not going to be wedged anymore. We will look at each bill
one-by-one to see if it is more effective for public safety," the New Brunswick MP
explained.

The Liberals, and other critics, say the Conservatives have often brought forward bills
that allow them to promote an anti-crime stance, even if the changes to the justice
system would have little practical impact in preventing crime.

"This is the first government to politicize the Criminal Code," said Mr. LeBlanc.

He accused the Conservatives of bringing forward "gimmicky" bills with "silly names"
such as the "Protecting Canadians by Ending Sentence Discounts for Multiple Murderers
Act."

In that case, the names of Robert Pickton and Clifford Olson were invoked by Justice
Minister Rob Nicholson when he announced the bill last fall. The amendments would permit
a judge to impose consecutive parole ineligibility periods for multiple murderers. There
is no instance, however, when a convicted serial killer has been released on parole. The
changes would not apply to Pickton or Olson since they are not retroactive.

There were nearly 20 crime bills that died when the federal government prorogued
Parliament and the Conservatives are promising to re-introduce all of the legislation.

Mr. Nicholson rejected suggestions that the crime package is about politics over
substance, in an interview Monday with the National Post. "We have a broad based
approach. We are trying to give police the tools they need, punish crime and give
greater rights to victims," he said.

The bill aimed at multiple murderers as well as plans to eliminate the "faint hope"
clause will mean that families of crime victims will not have to repeatedly attend
parole hearings for these offenders, explained Mr. Nicholson.

He defended, for example, a controversial bill that would impose minimum jail terms for
low-level marijuana grow operators. "These are people in the business of trafficking.
One of the ways to break up this activity, is putting these people in jail," said Mr.
Nicholson.

Critics of the government's crime bills such as Craig Jones, executive director of the
John Howard Society of Canada, said the legislative package could actually decrease
public safety. "This is not about being tough on crime, it is about being stupid on
crime," said Mr. Jones.

"Nothing will change for serious offenders," stated Mr. Jones. But mandatory jail terms
for petty car thieves and marijuana grow-ops will clog already crowded provincial jails
with people on the low end of the criminal spectrum, he observed. "If you put people in
jail, they get worse," said Mr. Jones. "We are going to create a cohort of harder
persons."

Crimwas easily the most important local issue cited in a poll last September of
residents in 10 cities across Canada, conducted by Ipsos Reid for Global News. Far
behind in terms of significance were property taxes, transportation and municipal
services.

"There is a widening gap between rhetoric and reality," when debating crime issues, said
Mr. Jones. For politicians who want to provide context when discussing public safety,
"there is no upside," he suggested.

REFORMING THE JUSTICE SYSTEM

The federal Conservatives have passed several pieces of anti-crime legislation while in
power, with plans to reintroduce more when Parliament resumes. Critics say many of the
initiatives will do little to reduce crime.

TRUTH IN SENTENCING ACT

Changes to credit for pre-trial custody took effect last week. Previously, it was up to
an individual judge to determine credit for pre-trial custody before sentencing. It was
customary to award two-for-one credit. A primary reason was that "dead time" does not
count toward parole eligibility. So an offender who was not free on bail before trial
would spend a longer time in custody for the exact same offence and same sentence as
someone who was granted bail. The amendments set the norm as one-for-one credit for
pre-trial custody. If "circumstances justify" a judge may allow 1.5-for-one credit.
Critics of the changes say it will do little to affect the time an offender spends in
custody. A judge is required to use the "totality principle" when sentencing, so
post-conviction incarceration may be reduced to make up for a lack of pre-trial credit.

CONDITIONAL SENTENCES

Presently, a conditional sentence or "house arrest" is not available if a judge is going
to impose a sentence of two years or more. The Ending Conditional Sentences for Property
and Other Serious Crimes Act amendments would take away the right to a conditional
sentence for anyone convicted of a crime with a maximum penalty of 14 years in prison,
regardless of what a judge deemed to be appropriate punishment. Nearly 40 offences in
the Criminal Code would be affected. Most of these crimes, though, such as serious
sexual assault, kidnapping, child luring and arson, would rarely, if ever, result in a
conditional sentence under the current framework.

SENTENCE DISCOUNTS

The Protecting Canadians by Ending Sentence Discounts for Multiple Murders Act would
permit a judge to impose consecutive parole ineligibility periods for someone convicted
of more than one count of murder. For example, an individual convicted of two counts of
first-degree murder could be sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for at
least 50 years instead of 25 years. There are presently nine people convicted of more
than one count of first-degree murder who have been released on parole, according to the
National Parole Board. On average, a person convicted of first-degree murder in Canada
spends more than 28 years in prison before release on parole. This is higher than every
other western nation other than the United States.

AUTO THEFT

New offences of motor vehicle theft and of tampering with vehicle identification numbers
would be created. These offences are presently covered by the theft and possession of
property obtained by crime sections of the Criminal Code. The amendments would carry
many of the same potential penalties, although auto theft would not be separated into
"theft under $5,000" and "theft over $5,000." There would also be a mandatory minimum of
six months in jail for anyone convicted of a third motor vehicle theft. Defence lawyers
say that a third conviction under the present provisions would nearly always result in a
sentence of at least six months in jail. The legislative summary provided for the
federal government points out that automobile thefts in Canada have steadily declined
since 1997.

SERIOUS TIME FOR THE MOST SERIOUS CRIME

This act would phase out the "faint hope" clause that permits someone convicted of a
life sentence to seek a reduction in parole eligibility, after spending at least 15
years in prison. Anyone seeking a reduction must first convince a judge there is merit
to a claim. If successful, then the application is heard by a jury. Two-thirds of a jury
must approve any reduction in parole eligibility. This will no longer be possible under
the proposed amendments. Since the first faint hope hearing in 1987, about 13% of those
considered eligible for a review, have had their parole eligibility reduced. As of
October 2009, there are 74 people previously convicted of first-degree murder who were
released on parole as a result of faint hope. None has had parole revoked, according to
the National Parole Board.

CONTROLLED DRUGS AND SUBSTANCES ACT

According to the Act amendments:

- A minimum one-year sentence would be mandatory for trafficking in more than three
kilograms of marijuana for a criminal organization, or if there was a threat of violence
or a weapon involved. The minimum penalty would increase to two years if the trafficking
is near a school.

- A mandatory minimum of two years in prison for production of drugs such as cocaine,
which is lower than sentences now traditionally handed down by court for this type of
offence.

- There would be mandatory minimums for marijuana grow-op producers, such as two years
in prison for more than 500 plants. The amendment may not affect current sentencing
trends, as the B.C. Court of Appeal upheld a two-year sentence in 2007 for a large-scale
grow-op and suggested house arrest was acceptable only in rare cases.

The most controversial of the amendments would require courts to impose a nine-month
minimum jail term for production of anywhere from one to 200 marijuana plants.


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#1623397 - 03/10/10 07:02 AM Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commo [Re: escapegoat]
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jSgx5mFBuvGNhTCnr6H0YF2vPYww

Tories should take Jaffer lesson to heart, dump minimum sentences: experts

By Bruce Cheadle (CP) – 16 hours ago

OTTAWA — Justice Minister Rob Nicholson should take a long, honest look at the Rahim Jaffer case and apply its lessons to the Conservative criminal justice agenda, the head of the John Howard Society said Tuesday.

"It's really easy to disparage discretion for judges - until you need it," Craig Jones told The Canadian Press in an interview.

Jaffer, a former senior Conservative MP in the government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper, walked out of a courtroom in Orangeville, Ont., after drunk driving and cocaine possession charges were dropped in return for a plea bargain on a careless driving charge.

"I'm sure you can recognize a break when you see one," Justice Doug Maund told Jaffer.

The decision drew howls of outrage from government critics, who accused the Conservatives of gross hypocrisy for promoting an aggressive "tough-on-crime" agenda but remaining silent when the mantra was not applied to one of their own.

Jones, who as executive director of the John Howard Society of Canada advocates for "effective, just and humane responses to the causes and consequences of crime," took a different tack.

He contrasted the treatment of Jaffer to the Harper government's push to create mandatory minimum sentences for a whole host of offences.

"I don't know Jaffer's history, I certainly don't know his heart," said Jones.

"But would any social benefit really be served by making an example of him? By putting him in jail? By throwing the book at him?

"I mean, the guy's been publicly humiliated. ... If this is a first offence, it's a very costly first offence for a guy who aspires to be in public service."

Conservatives, up to and including the prime minister, have publicly criticized judges for sentences they deemed too light. Harper, unsolicited, publicly questioned the sentence handed to a Toronto terrorism convict in January.

But on Tuesday several Conservative MPs stressed that the Jaffer court proceedings were in Ontario jurisdiction and had nothing to do with the federal government.

"It's a judge who made the decision," said Veterans Affairs Minister Jean-Pierre Blackburn. "There is never any intervention politically."
Quebec Tory Steven Blaney said the separation of the political and the judicial is "Politics 101."

Yet political intervention is precisely what the Conservatives are pushing when they enact mandatory minimum sentencing laws, said one expert.

"Most Canadians - regardless of their 'law and order' views - accept that proportionality in sentencing makes sense," Anthony Doob, a criminologist at the University of Toronto, said in an email Tuesday.

"But (mandatory minimums) make it impossible for judges to accomplish proportionality, given the range of behaviour involved. So, we've sacrificed proportional sentencing for largely political purposes."

The experts say the truly perverse aspect of mandatory minimums and "truth in sentencing" provisions is that in real life they actually make the administration of justice more "surreal and bizarre and unjust," in Jones' words.

"They encourage exactly the kind of behaviour that you see here (with Jaffer)," said the criminal justice advocate.

"Prosecutors and judges strike deals to preserve proportionality. But because they can't do it in public, they do it behind closed doors."

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#1623398 - 03/10/10 07:03 AM Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commo [Re: escapegoat]
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/bur...article1495925/

Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:39 AM
MP wants answers on Rahim Jaffer's plea bargain
Jane Taber

1. Why just a slap on the wrist? Joe Comartin sees a sweet deal in the $500 fine given former Tory MP Rahim Jaffer for careless driving. And he wants answers now as to how it was put together; he wants Canadians told how it happened to avoid any whiff of political interference or corruption.

This morning the NDP MP will be asking his caucus whether he should write the Ontario Attorney-General and the Director of Public Prosecutions demanding answers to the controversy swirling around Mr. Jaffer’s sentence.

In his life before politics Mr. Comartin was a trial lawyer. He has 27 years under his belt and knows his way around a courtroom. He comes at this with a lot of credibility.

“I’m wearing my lenses as a defence lawyer and thinking, ‘Boy, it would be great if I could get my client a deal like that,’” Mr. Comartin told The Globe about the controversial plea bargain.

Yesterday, Mr. Jaffer pleaded guilty to a charge of careless driving and was fined $500. The Crown dropped criminal charges of drunk driving and cocaine posession. A speeding charge was also withdrawn.

There is a view that Mr. Jaffer’s connections helped him. Adding to this is the fact that the judge, Mr. Justice Douglas Maund, told the former politician: “I’m sure you recognize a break when you see one.”

NDP Leader Jack Layton made reference to this, too, when asked about the Jaffer sentence outside of the Commons yesterday: “Well, the judge himself in the case said that this was one heck of a deal and I believe that a lot of Canadians will look at it and simply shake their heads and ask themselves whether or not this represents some kind of a double standard.”

Married to junior cabinet minister Helena Guergis, Mr. Jaffer was until the last election a Tory MP from Edmonton. During the last part of his tenure in Ottawa he served as the national Conservative caucus chairman, a job requiring the person in it to be well-liked and well-known among his colleagues.

Says Mr. Comartin: “I’m inclined to think that there is no reason to be suspicious that there was political interference or anything of that sort but I think it behooves the prosecutor … or Ontario’s Attorney-General to tell the Canadian people why this happened.”

The $500 penalty for the careless driving charge is appropriate, Mr. Comartin says. But that’s not the issue – the issue is the decision by the prosecutor not to proceed with the more serious charges.

Mr. Comartin says, for example, that the only time he can remember a breathalyzer charge being dropped was when “I had a very clear defence the machine was not working properly.”

So, he is simply asking that Canadians be told why the decision was made to agree to the plea bargain. “Tell us that so the Canadian people don’t think there is political interference or corruption,” he says.

Liberal MP Anita Neville questioned the government on the issue yesterday in
Question Period, noting the contradiction between the government’s tough-on-crime policies and this sentence. She was practically drowned out by the outrage from the Tory bench.

Justice Minister Rob Nicholson said this was a provincial matter and there was no political interference. He called Ms. Neville’s questions irresponsible and demanded she apologize and withdraw her remarks, receiving a standing ovation from his caucus colleagues.

But Mr. Comartin points out that the drug charge is a federal matter and that Mr. Nicholson was “ducking” the issue of why it was dropped.

Meanwhile, Mr. Jaffer’s colleagues are being very tight-lipped about the matter. Many have avoided comment on it although some Tory pundits, including the Prime Minister’s former spokesman Kory Teneycke and strategist Tim Powers, have called for a public explanation.

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#1623431 - 03/10/10 09:04 AM Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commo [Re: escapegoat]
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No political interference.. right. Hypocrites, every one of them. They'd have thrown the book at any of us...
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#1624718 - 03/15/10 03:45 AM Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commo [Re: lombar]
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Great article in the Star today about how the government paid for a study that concludes tough on crime tactics don't work, lets see how they spin this.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/779886--tough-on-crime-policies-don-t-work-study-finds

Tough-on-crime policies don't work, study finds
Research at odds with Tories' crime agenda


Bruce Cheadle The Canadian Press

OTTAWA–The federal Justice Department pays to help publicize leading criminal justice research that frequently discredits the Conservative government's "tough-on-crime" agenda.

The most recent issue of Criminological Highlights, published last month, with federal assistance, by the University of Toronto's Centre of Criminology, blows gaping holes in several of Justice Minister Rob Nicholson's most cherished anti-crime measures.

It also provides a very timely reminder of why Canada's ongoing move toward more mandatory minimum sentences can lead to the kind of plea bargain arrangement that's created a storm of public outrage around former Conservative stalwart Rahim Jaffer.

Mandatory penalties, says the research digest, "undermine the legitimacy of the prosecution process by fostering circumventions that are wilful and subterranean. They undermine ... equality before the law when they cause comparably culpable offenders to be treated radically differently."

In other words, people who can afford good lawyers agree to backroom plea bargains to avoid harsh mandatory sentences, while the average Joe is hit hard.

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#1624731 - 03/15/10 05:31 AM Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commo [Re: RobOnt]
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#1624950 - 03/16/10 06:15 AM Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commo [Re: Duffy Moon]
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Jaffer's lawyer could have won the argument at trial on the basis that the cocaine and DUI would not have been discovered without being pulled over for speeding. But that would cost $$$, something which most of us could not afford. The wealthy, privileged and politically connected are simply not treated equally( like the reset of us) under the laws of the land.

Helena Guergis, Jaffer's wife seems also to be above the law. Had any Canadian civilian behaved as she did in her Airport Outburst, they'd have been detained, handcuffed, perhaps taken into custody, or sadly tasered.

Being that her outburst took place at or near the time of Jaffer's incident, makes me think perhaps she was jones-ing for a toot.

Finally, Guergis and Jaffer exhibit the worst in our public service: no remorse, no accountability. They are unworthy of public office in this country.
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