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#1506755 - 02/27/09 03:17 PM
Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commons
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Mrs. Marc Emery
  
Registered: 12/04/01
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Backgrounder Mandatory prison sentences for serious drug crimes
The Government today re-introduced amendments to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (CDSA) which was originally tabled in November 2007. The legislation provides mandatory jail time for producing and selling illegal drugs, and will allow special penalties to be imposed when offences are carried out for organized crime purposes, or if they involve youth. This legislation supports the National Anti-Drug Strategy’s efforts to combat illicit drug production and distribution.
The proposed reforms would help disrupt criminal enterprises by targeting drug suppliers. It would send a clear message to growers and traffickers that this illicit activity will not be tolerated, and they will be punished -- especially when their activities involve Canada’s youth or trafficking near schools.
Anyone found guilty of a serious drug offence would automatically receive a mandatory term of imprisonment. For the purpose of this initiative, serious drug offences would include: • production; • trafficking; • possession for the purpose of trafficking; • importing and exporting; and • possession for the purpose of exporting.
The Bill would amend the CDSA to include mandatory prison terms for drugs listed in Schedule I, such as heroin, cocaine and methamphetamine, and in Schedule II, such as marijuana. Generally, the minimum sentence would apply where there is an aggravating factor, including where the production of the drug constituted a potential security, health or safety hazard. Also, the maximum penalty for production of Schedule II drugs, e.g., marijuana, would be increased from 7 to 14 years.
The aggravating factors involve offences committed: • for the benefit of organized crime; • involving use or threat of violence; • involving use or threat of use of weapons; • by someone who has been previously convicted (in the past 10 years) of a serious drug offence; • in a prison; • in or near a school, in or near an area normally frequented by youth or in the presence of youth; • through involving a youth in the commission of the offence; and, • in relation to a youth (e.g. selling to a youth).
The security, health and safety factors are: • the accused used real property that belongs to a third party to commit the offence; • the production constituted a potential security, health or safety hazard to children who were in the location where the offence was committed or in the immediate area; • the production constituted a potential public safety hazard in a residential area; and, • the accused placed or set a trap.
Also, GHB and flunitrazepam, most commonly known as date-rape drugs, and amphetamine drugs would be moved from Schedule III to Schedule I, which would provide access to higher maximum penalties for illegal activities involving these drugs.
Exemption for the Drug Treatment Court
The proposed legislation would allow a Drug Treatment Court (DTC) to suspend the imposition of a sentence while the addicted accused person takes an approved treatment program. Drug Treatment Courts encourage the accused person to deal with the addiction that motivates their criminal behaviour. If the person successfully completes the program, the court normally imposes a suspended or reduced sentence.
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#1506756 - 02/27/09 03:19 PM
Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commons
[Re: Geekiator]
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Mrs. Marc Emery
  
Registered: 12/04/01
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increased maximum penalties for cannabis production from 7 years to 14 years imprisonment; and,
I'm pretty sure the maximum sentence for growing pot used to be 14 years, and I think the Canadian Supreme Court reduced the maximum to 7 years sometime in the 90s. I think it was considered cruel and unusual punishment, or something like that. There's this bit of info from http://www.parl.gc.ca/LEGISINFO/index.asp?List=ls&Query=5273&Session=15&Language=e#constitutionalityB. Constitutionality of Mandatory Minimum Sentences Mandatory minimum terms of imprisonment are generally inconsistent with the fundamental principle that a sentence must be proportionate to the gravity of the offence and the degree of responsibility of the offender,(9) as they do not allow a judge to make any exception in an appropriate case. However, this does not necessarily mean that a minimum sentence is unconstitutional. A mandatory minimum sentence may constitute cruel and unusual punishment, in violation of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms,(10) if it is possible for the mandatory punishment, in a specific matter or reasonable hypothetical case, to be “grossly disproportionate,” given the gravity of the offence or the personal circumstances of the offender. By way of example, the Supreme Court of Canada concluded in 1987 that a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment of seven years for importing or exporting a narcotic constituted cruel and unusual punishment because it failed to take into account the nature and quantity of the substance, the reason for the offence, or the absence of any previous convictions.(11) The applicable provision was accordingly struck down. Conversely, the current mandatory minimum sentence of four years in prison for criminal negligence causing death, where a firearm is used, was upheld by the Supreme Court in 2000, on the basis that such an offence necessarily involves wanton and reckless disregard for life and safety.(12)
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#1506786 - 02/27/09 04:44 PM
Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commons
[Re: JodieEmery]
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Newbie
Registered: 02/25/09
Posts: 36
Loc: Toronto
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The most distressing part of this bill is the 6 month monitory sentence for 1-200 plants.
So if you are sick and can't get on the Medicinal Cannabis Program and you have even 1 plant growing you will be sent to jail for 6 months. If you don't want to purchase your weed on the black market and grow your own plant for personal use you will be sent to jail for 6 months and if you live in a rented apartment you will get 9 months.
I want that Liberal/NDP/Block coalition government NOW!
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#1506798 - 02/27/09 05:50 PM
Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commons
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Registered: 06/06/07
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In Ontario it costs 1000 dollars a week to jail someone in medium I believe so 2 people in jail for 6 months costs us the tax payer 52000 dollars which is money wasted. The thing is were are we going to put peaceful pot heads ?? In a over crowded jails or waste more tax money on new jails at who's cost ?? Sad part is the sheeple or the ones that say this is great do not look beyond there noises at the cost. The money is better spent on education and health care not jails or jail time. If the province is complaining about tax money or lack of it maybe make it legal and tax it. Would also put a stop to the black market. Business 101 says if there is a demand there will be someone to supply the demand so prohibition is a disaster before it starts and to keep it up is just a waste of lives and ruins families Think I have done my rant for this week !!! Thanks for reading 
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#1506811 - 02/27/09 06:56 PM
Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commons
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Carpal Tunnel
 
Registered: 08/17/04
Posts: 2721
Loc: Hawkesbury, Ontario
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Hi Jodie and Friends! 
Forced drug treatment as an alternative to incarceration DOES NOT work in most cases.
Things will go quite sour for our politicians if this law passes - as 53% of Canadians are already in favor for marijuana legalization and regulation since a few years!
Canada simply don't have enough jails, judges, court houses and lawyers to support such law - and in hard economic times, tax payers just can't afford to pay more taxes in judicial costs!
Marc
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#1506859 - 02/27/09 11:19 PM
Re: "Drug Crackdown" Bill C-15 introduced in Commons
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Enthusiast

Registered: 04/06/03
Posts: 379
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Canada simply don't have enough jails, judges, court houses and lawyers to support such law - and in hard economic times, tax payers just can't afford to pay more taxes in judicial costs
The conservative tactic is to run massive deficits to pay for this crap, then cut the deficit by closing hospitals and schools.
Which creates more desperate people who become criminals, who have to be imprisoned. It's called he prison industrial complex, it is yet another parasite leaching off society.
Sometimes these prisoners are given 'jobs', (telemarketing for mega corporations,say), paid a few cents a day. This is a kind of slavery that helps lower the wages corporations have to pay workers.
The more people in jail, the more slaves there are! And the more slaves there are, the more money owners make. So yet again, the Cons are governing for their base.
Its frustrating that a lot of people who will be imprisoned by mandatory minimum pot laws never believed they had a choice at the ballot box, and didn't even vote.
Thats how Nixon came to power.
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#1506887 - 02/28/09 04:20 AM
How to get tough on gang violence? Legalize drugs
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Registered: 04/24/00
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Saturday, February 28, 2009
How to get tough on gang violence? Legalize drugs By Dan Gardner, columnist The Ottawa Citizen Gangsters murdering each other in public. Innocent bystanders gunned down. The police demanding more power and money. The government responding with tougher laws.
Yes, it's 1997 all over again.
Twelve years ago, the government was Liberal, the minister was Allan Rock, and the thugs were biker gangs fighting over Quebec's lucrative trade in illicit drugs. Today, the government is Conservative, the minister is Rob Nicholson, and thugs belong to an assortment of gangs fighting over British Columbia's lucrative trade in illicit drugs.
It's not hard to spot the common denominator, is it?
I feel a certain, strange nostalgia watching all this unfold. It was 12 years ago that I became a journalist and one of the first things I wrote was a series of editorials calling for the legalization of drugs.
Just look at Quebec's biker wars, I argued. It's not the drugs that cause the violence that is endemic to the drug trade. It is the drug's illegality. Al Capone didn't kill people because he was drunk. And the violence associated with alcohol prohibition didn't end when Al Capone went to jail. It ended when alcohol prohibition ended.
"Allan Rock's laws will fail," I predicted. Yes, lots of bikers will go to prison. But the enormous profit margins of the illicit trade will recruit plenty of replacements. "Long, hard experience shows that criminalization will never eradicate the sale of illegal drugs."
Lots of bikers did go to prison. But cocaine and other illicit drugs didn't suddenly disappear from the streets of Montreal. New people stepped in to claim the abandoned market share and the flow of drugs was as smooth as a glass of legal scotch.
The gang violence did abate, fortunately. But gang violence is cyclic. It comes and goes depending on a range of factors, the arrest of participants being only one.
In fact, in stable drug markets, arrests can actually spark gang violence by removing established traffickers and the control they exercise: Put a big chunk of the market up for grabs and gangsters will battle for it.
This is precisely what happened after the Mexican government took down the leaders of major cartels. Why did almost 6,000 Mexicans die in gang violence last year? Why is the situation so bad American experts are worried that the Mexican state itself is in danger? Because law enforcement succeeded.
But decades of failure doesn't seem to matter to policy makers.
In 1998, the Canadian government signed on to a United Nations declaration that solemnly committed the nations of the world to "eliminate or significantly reduce" the production of drug crops. The UN slogan: "A drug-free world -- we can do it!"
Today, the world is not drug free. In fact, drug production is greater than ever, distribution is wider, and prices lower. The conclusion could not be clearer: Drug prohibition is the most futile public policy since the Persian emperor Xerxes ordered the Hellespont -- the narrow strait separating Europe and Asia Minor -- to be whipped.
And yet, when gang violence once again flares up and innocent people are gunned down, virtually no politician or senior official will even ask whether the current approach is doing more harm than good. Instead, they will talk about doing more of the same. Tougher punishments. Great surveillance powers. Whatever. The details don't matter any more than it matters what type of whip Xerxes used.
In the United States, law enforcement budgets are massive. Powers of search and seizure are sweeping, particularly when organized crime is involved. Punishments are so savage a dealer with a bag of pot and a handgun may face life in prison with no chance of parole -- while traffickers who fire their guns may face the death penalty.
It has accomplished nothing. The laws of economics cannot be defeated by the laws of legislatures.
As the civil servant in charge of the United Kingdom's anti-drug office, Julian Critchley learned that lesson. Criminalization has produced "no significant, lasting impact on the availability, affordability, or use of drugs," he said a few months ago. "The drugs strategy does not work, can not work, because we have no way of controlling the drug supply."
If we're serious about fighting crime, Critchley argued, we must legalize and regulate. "There is no doubt at all that the benefits to society of the fall in crime as a result of legalization would be dramatic."
Critchley retired eight years ago. Many leading politicians and officials have made similar observations -- after retiring.
When politicians and officials make comments like these before retiring, we may finally hope for change. Until then, blood will continue to flow. And history will repeat again and again.
Contact: letters@thecitizen.canwest.com Contact: http://www2.canada.com/ottawacitizen/letters.html
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