I don`t believe everything I read in the news either.

GEO-STRATEGIC STATUS OF THE GOLAN HEIGHTS

The Golan Heights is officially designated by law as part of the State of Israel. This is not merely an issue of a few tens of thousands of Golan residents, even those living there now for three generations, but a question of national life and death. If politicians are prepared to sacrifice this land, this must be and is cause for serious concern; and not just for Israel. To better comprehend this issue of serious national anxiety, one must first understand what the Golan is, and what it means to Israel's survival.

Topographically, the Golan is a 60 kilometers long by 20 kilometers wide mountainous plateau running from the upper Jordan Rift Valley and Lake Kinneret in the west, the Yarmuk Valley in the south, and Mount Hermon in the north. The total area is 1,158 square kilometers, with some 21% as a nature preserve (246 square kilometers). On Israel's side of the Golan, there is a steep incline from the Golan plateau down to the densely-populated Hula Valley and eastern shore of the Kinneret. The border with Syria in the Golan is eighty kilometers long.

Of the remainder, about eighty square kilometers is agricultural land worked by Jews and twenty square kilometers worked by Druze, with an additional 500 km. as pasture land. There also exists significant industrial activity.

Above the Lake Kinneret (the Sea of Galilee) rises an escarpment, ranging in height from 100 to 800 meters altitude, known as the Golan Heights, towering over the Rift Valley to its west; created by volcanic activity, pouring out from craters, covering the high plateau with layers of basalt, making cross-country movement difficult. The highest point is Mount Hermon (Biblical Sion) a multi-peaked mountain rising to 2,224 meters at its peak, dominating observation over the entire region up to the Damascus Basin to the east – some sixty kilometers distant. The so-called "Purple Line" established after the cease-fire of 10 June 1967, provided an excellent line of defense for Israel. The area was almost completely uninhabited before 1967, now contains a vibrant population with tens of villages and settlements, including (mostly) Jews and Druze.

The border is located mostly along the watershed and enables long range observation posts from a line of volcanic hills, containing strategic electronic surveillance stations. From a purely strategic view, the Heights contribute nothing to the defense of Syria's capital Damascus. A glimpse at the map shows clearly that due to topographical features to its west, Damascus can best be defended along the Awaj River near Sasa and the two stony deserts to the south, both practically impassable to military traffic. Any defense further west, including the Golan Heights can be easily outflanked, as the IDF did during the latter stages of the 1973 Yom Kippur War. In other words, movement westward is made very difficult, while eastward is actually unhindered.

From a strategic point of view, the Golan would be critical to Israel even if Syria did not have a history of using it for constant shelling and harassment when they had it; even though they never made any other use of it. Legally, this use of the area made their capture in the Six-Day War not only strategically incumbent upon Israel, but also a legal right by international law. Additionally, the Golan was part of the League of Nations Mandate and was subtracted from Israel illegally.
http://www.freeman.org/serendipity/index...AELI-ASSET.html

No more long range artillery strikes from the Golan Heights.


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UPDATED: 08:01, July 17, 2006
Iran glorifies Hezbollah's attacks against Israel



Iran on Sunday praised Lebanese Shiite militant group Hezbollah for launching attacks on Israel.

"They (Israel) want Lebanon to be a meat in their mouth, but the powerful Hezbollah has prevented their dream from being realized." Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said in a televised speech.

"The crimes and the atrocities in the recent weeks in Palestine and Lebanon have proved again that the existence of Israel in this region is an evil and cancerous being and an infected tumour," he added.

Former Iranian President Mohammad Khatami hailed Hezbollah as " a radiant sun that emblazes and warms the all Muslims and free nations, including the Palestinians", the local Fars news agency reported.

"What is going on in Lebanon today eliminates all the possible doubts about the necessity for the powerful presence of the resistance movement in that country," Khatami was quoted as saying.

Meanwhile, Iranian Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar stressed that Israel would "regret its crimes once Muslim states resort to action", according to the report.

Najjar condemned the Israeli aggressions against the Palestinian and Lebanese people, accusing Washington of indulging Israeli escalation.

He also warned Israel of the consequences of invasion into Syria.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi also expressed support for Syria. "Iran was standing by the Syrian people and Israel would face unimaginable losses if it attacks Syria."

"We have offered and will still offer Syria and Lebanon numinous and humanitarian support," he added.

On Saturday, the Israeli army confirmed that it had bombed no- man land between Lebanon and Syria.

But Israel's head of military operations General Gadi Azincot told a news conference in Jerusalem that Syria was not an objective.

Israel launched its offensive Wednesday on Lebanon in retaliation for the capture of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah guerillas.

Meanwhile, over 700 rockets have been fired on northern Israel since the battle broke out.
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200607/17/eng20060717_283700.html

Thirty thousand UN peacekeeping troops now stationed in southern Libnon. No cross border incursions or rocket attacks on Israel either.

Israeli Withdrawal From Gaza Explained

By Jefferson Morley
washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:36 AM



A brief explanation of Israel's planned withdrawal from the Gaza Strip:

What is the Gaza Strip?

Gaza is a small strip of land, approximately 25 miles long and six miles wide, on the Mediterranean coast of Israel. For the past 38 years, it has been controlled by Israel. It is home to more than 8,500 Jewish settlers and approximately 1.3 million Palestinians.

Why is Israel withdrawing from Gaza?

In announcing the "Disengagement Plan" in December 2003, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said the withdrawal was to increase security of residents of Israel, relieve pressure on the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and reduce friction between Israelis and Palestinians. Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement, claims that the withdrawal is the result of violent Palestinian resistance to Israeli occupation.

What is the withdrawal plan?

Starting Aug. 15, tens of thousands of Israeli troops will oversee the evacuation of the settlers from 21 different communities in Gaza and four smaller settlements in the West Bank. They will assist settlers with moving their belongings as well. Some Palestinian security forces will also participate. On Aug. 17, settlers who have not voluntarily left will be forcibly removed and may lose personal property, according to IDF commanders. Israeli soldiers will then demolish settlers' homes.

Why is it controversial?

Many, but not all, Jewish residents of Gaza believe that the land is part of what they call "Eretz Yisrael" -- Greater Israel -- and thus biblically ordained for Jews. Other Israelis believe that withdrawal will not make Israel more secure from Palestinian attack. Some settlers, backed by supporters from outside Gaza, say they will not leave voluntarily on Aug. 15, raising the prospect of violent clashes between the IDF and Israeli citizens. The withdrawal marks the first time since Israel's withdrawal from the Sinai Peninsula in 1982 that it has relinquished Jewish settlements to Arab control.

Who favors the withdrawal?

Public opinion polls show that around 60 percent of Israelis and virtually all Palestinians support the withdrawal.

Who opposes the withdrawal?

Israel's right-wing and religious parties are most opposed to the withdrawal. Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, a member of Sharon's Likud Party, resigned in early August in protest, the highest ranking Israeli official to do so. He said that withdrawal does not require reciprocal concessions by the Palestinians. Hundreds of Israeli soldiers who object to the withdrawal have been excused from duties.

What will happen after the evacuation?

The Palestinian National Authority (PNA) will administer Gaza while Israel will continue to control its borders, coastline and airspace. The biggest change for Palestinians will be that the tight travel restrictions that Israel has imposed within the territory will be lifted. The Palestinians hope to build apartment buildings on the site of the demolished Israeli homes.

How will the withdrawal affect the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

The Israeli government expects the withdrawal will reduce Palestinian attacks on Jewish citizens. The Israeli Foreign Ministry says that the withdrawal shows that Israel is willing to make significant concessions for peace. The PNA, while welcoming the dismantling of the settlements, says that the withdrawal is a unilateral move designed to consolidate Israeli control over the West Bank where the majority of Palestinians live. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/10/AR2005081000713_pf.html


Israel withdraws from Gaza, and rocket attacks intensify.

Israel launches an offenseive to destroy Hamas` combat effectiveness:No more rocket attacks

"Israel withdraws from Gaza, and rocket attacks intensify."

You mean:

Israel withdraws from Gaza,

... and then blockades Gaza and attempts to starve the people of Gaza,

... and rather than wait around to die, the rocket attacks intensify.





I'm sure the attacks on Germans in Warsaw "intensified" after the Germans attempted to starve those in the Ghetto.

Not exactly accurate.

Israel worried about close Egypt-Hamas ties

By Abdel-Rahman Hussein
First Published: October 23, 2007
Abdel-Rahman Hussein
Barbed wire at the Salah Eldin Gate on the Egypt-Gaza border




CAIRO: Reports from Israel reveal a concern over the apparent closeness of Egypt-Hamas ties recently and what that means for the problem of weapons smuggling on the border between Egypt and Gaza.

Israeli newspaper Haaretz claims that there are concerns in Israeli political circles that because of the closer relationship, Egypt is turning a blind eye to the smuggling of weapons in tunnels built underneath the border wall.

Hassan Abu Taleb from Al Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies refuted these claims, saying that Hamas is a political reality and that the weapons smuggling adversely affects Egypt before it does Israel.

“Egypt’s stance is against the tunnels; and when they find any, they close them because it is harmful to Egypt before it is harmful to Israel,” he said.

“Egypt deals with all Palestinian political forces because they are Palestinians. This doesn’t mean we treat the factions in an equitable manner,” Abu Taleb told Daily News Egypt, “The PA (Palestinian Authority) is the official authority Egypt recognizes.”

However, “what has happened is that we are faced with a different situation in Gaza, and there is a reality called Hamas, which is on our border and therefore affects our national security interests,” he added.

“Besides,” Abu Taleb continued “Israel deals with the government of (deposed Hamas Prime Minister) Ismail Haniyeh in matters concerning the Palestinians living in Gaza. This is normal because Hamas is the overriding authority in Gaza and therefore must be dealt with.”

Shani Cooper-Zubida, the spokesperson for the Israeli embassy, told Daily News Egypt that there were concerns about the weapons being smuggled into Gaza.

“We are very concerned with the smuggling, the infiltration. We think the three sides (Israel, Egypt and the Palestinian Authority) should prevent this from happening,” she said.

Cooper-Zubida added that “we are concerned because those weapons that are being smuggled into Gaza are being sent inside [Israel]. In the last two weeks there have been 63 missiles from Gaza to Israel. Since Hamas took over the Gaza [Strip], 240 missiles have been fired into Israel, so of course we are concerned.”

The Israeli newspaper also claimed that 73 tons of explosives have been smuggled into Gaza through the border with Egypt since June, including 1,650 RPG rockets and around 6,000 bombs.

“Have they found this amount that they claim exists? Where did they get this number from?” Abu Taleb said, “They haven’t. If they have seized this amount they would have said so. This is an imagined figure.” http://www.thedailynewsegypt.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=9910

You might have a case; since you left out the suicide attacks inside Israel before their border was closed with Gaza, it`s meaningless to accuse Israel of starving Gaza. Egypt likewise closed its borders with Gaza; you left out the hijacking of food aid trucks by Hamas. The diverting of Israeli feterlizer and sugar to make rocket fuel. Once again, you try to blame Israel for an Arab problem? Once Israel withdrew from Gaza, it became an Arab concentration camp. Are you nuts enough to try and convince someone that Israel is responsible for feeding and arming Gaza`s fighters?

Golan Druze Seek Peace -- and the Heights
September 28, 2006
Jewish Telegraphic Agency
MAJDAL SHAMS, Israel
Under a darkening sky in the northernmost corner of the Golan Heights, a small crowd gathers at the town square in this Druze village late in the afternoon and unfurls a few Syrian flags.

Standing against the backdrop of the soaring peaks of Mount Hermon, the demonstrators clutch photographs of grim-looking men, some of them family members on the Syrian side of this contested border, others comrades sitting in Israeli jails.

It's the final day of a weeklong protest against the Israeli government, and this modest show of loyalty to their erstwhile government in Damascus gets half-hearted gestures of support from Druze commuters arriving home from jobs in northern Israel.

Despite renewed international pressure on Israel and Syria to restart peace talks, people here are not very excited by the prospects.

Support for the Status Quo

Some don't think peace will come in their lifetimes, and others simply don't want to pay what's considered the most likely price of peace: the return of the Golan Heights to Syrian control.

"The best thing would be that there is peace, but the Golan Heights stays as it is," said one man getting a haircut in a barbershop in Mas'ade, a Druze village just down the road from Majdal Shams.

The man, who refused to give his name, added in Arabic-accented Hebrew, "With God's help, we won't go back" to Syria.

But for the Druze of the Golan Heights, renewed talk of progress on the Israeli-Syrian negotiating track brings both hope and anxiety.

"Life is easy here. People have everything: They have money, they live nicely and pleasantly," said Hafez Kadmani, who runs a lottery and beverage shop in Majdal Shams. "There are those who say that life in Syria is difficult. There is no work, no money and barely any Internet."

Yet he said he'd rather live in Syria.

"Syria is our tree of life. It is our mother," said Kadmani.

Most Druze here admit they would like the Golan to be returned to Syria, which lost the strategic plateau to Israel during the 1967 Six-Day War. Israel annexed the area in 1981 -- something it did not do with the West Bank or Gaza Strip, which are heavily populated by Palestinian Arabs -- and offered the local Druze Israeli citizenship.

But the leadership of the four main surviving villages in the Golan refused the citizenship offer, partly out of a loyalty to their native country that is dictated by their faith, an offshoot of Islam, and partly out of fear that they would be punished harshly by Damascus if the Golan reverted to Syrian control.

While Druze in the Galilee embraced Israeli citizenship -- and even sent some of their sons to the Israeli army -- the Golan Druze by and large remained loyal to Syria.

Nearly 40 years later, however, many of the 18,000 or so Druze in the Golan say they can't imagine trading life in democratic, prosperous Israel for life under the Syrian dictatorship.

"Syria is not a democracy like Israel. It's very bad politics," said a Mas'ade resident named Saleh. "If I live here, I know it's a democracy."

The Golan Druze work with and among Israelis and speak Hebrew, a few have Jewish friends, and some have married Israeli Druze and relocated to the Galilee.

Many older Druze, particularly those old enough to remember life before 1967, want the Golan returned to Syria so they can be reunited with their families.

"We dream to return to Syria," mused Abu Saleh Munir Mzged, who was a teenager when the Golan fell to Israel.

Though few in the Golan are Israeli citizens, the government nevertheless maintains tight restrictions on their travel to Syria. Except for a few hundred students granted permission by Israel to spend the academic year in Syria, nobody is allowed to come and go.

Shufi Alam Din, who works as a money-changer in Majdal Shams, said peace would enable an open border between the two countries, allowing the Druze to live with their Syrian relatives yet still work in Israel.

"I dream of eating humus in Damascus for lunch -- and ribs in Tel Aviv for dinner," he said.

But others say such hopes are unrealistic.

If Israel does cede the Golan, the Druze will end up under the thumb -- or the fist -- of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

'I Don't Like Arab Politics'

Many, therefore, harbor the same wish for the Golan Heights as do most Israelis: that Israel somehow manages to make peace with Syria without having to give up the Golan.

"I like Israeli cities. I don't like Arab cities. I don't like Arab politics," said a Druze named Ajwa. "I want to live in Israel all my life. I want to go to Syria only to visit and enjoy.



Many young Druze acknowledge that they feel at home neither in Syria -- where they've never been -- nor in Israel -- where they feel they don't quite belong.

"We're neither Syrian nor Israeli," lamented a saleswoman at a clothing store in Mas'ade. "We're by ourselves.

"I just want to stay in the Golan," she stated plainly. "This is the most beautiful place." http://www.jewishexponent.com/article/10803/



With the Druze, there is ample evidence that peace and commerce is already reality. As you already know, not even the Druze want anything to do with Palestinian or Arab politics.

"Israel worried about close Egypt-Hamas ties"

I'm sure Nazi Germany worried about close Polish-Jew ties, too.

You have two standards ... one for the Jews, and one for everyone else.

The lesson wasn't "never again for the Jews", it was "never again for anyone".

You have got to be crazy to think Nazi Germany was worried about close ties between Poles and Jews. Poles treated Jews exactly the same as Arab countries have treated their brothers who they advised to evacuate the land before they attacked Israel in 1948, less than one year after Israel achieved statehood; they(Arabs) herded Arabs into concentration camps they called refugee camps. The Poles herded their Jews into concentration camps that came to be known as Ghettos. I suppose you never heard of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact? Hitler worried about Poles having ties to Jews? Now we know you are one crazy blanketyblank! I suggest you quit this thread before you show any more of your pathetic ignorance; you will say anything stupid/false knowing full well that enough people will swallow it without fact checking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

Here you go; explain this shit http://radioislam.org/protocols/indexen.htm
Short history
The original source has been identified as an 1864 book by Maurice Joly entitled The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu, which was written as a satirical attack against the ambitions and methods of French Emperor Napoleon III.[8] In the book, Machiavelli represented Napoleon III, and described a series of steps that he intended to take to become ruler of the world. The Joly book was in turn based on material borrowed from a popular novel of the time by Eugène Sue entitled The Mysteries of the People, in which those plotting to rule the world were the Jesuits instead of Napoleon III. Neither the Joly book nor the Sue book mentioned either Jews or Masons.

Based on evidence repeatedly corroborated by British, German, Ukrainian, Polish and Russian sources over a 75 year period, The Protocols, far from being a "discovered" document as it was claimed to be, was in fact deliberately fabricated sometime between 1895 and 1902 by Russian journalist Matvei Golovinski. In a Swiss lawsuit in the late 1930s concerning circulation of the Protocols, "Two of the Russian witnesses gave testimony pointing to the involvement of Pyotr Ivanovich Rachkovsky in the forgery".[9] Rachkovsky was head of the Paris branch of the Russian secret police.[10]

The source material for the forgery was a synthesis between Joly's book and a chapter from a work of fiction titled Biarritz, which was written in 1868 by antisemitic German novelist Hermann Goedsche and translated into Russian in 1872.[11] In creating the Protocols, Golovinski took Joly's novel and changed the plotters from Napoleon III to the Jews, just as Joly had changed the plotters from the Jesuits to Napoleon III in his version of the story. The current belief is the forgery was initiated and authorized by factions of the Russian aristocracy opposed to the political and social reforms initiated by the previous Tsar, (Alexander II). The fabricated document was meant to convince the antisemitic Tsar Nicholas II not to allow additional reforms, since all reforms would play into the hands of this just uncovered "secret Jewish plot". Once the Russian Revolution began in 1905, however, the use of the forgery changed. The same group, now part of the White movement, disseminated the document during their 18 year fight against the Bolsheviks in an attempt to link the Red Army, which had a few Jews in its leadership, to the fictitious conspiracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

The Protocols in Nazi propaganda, 1930s-1940s
The Protocols also became a part of the Nazi propaganda effort to justify persecution of the Jews. It was made required reading for German students. In The Holocaust: The Destruction of European Jewry 1933–1945, Nora Levin states that "Hitler used the Protocols as a manual in his war to exterminate the Jews":

Despite conclusive proof that the Protocols were a gross forgery, they had sensational popularity and large sales in the 1920s and 1930s. They were translated into every language of Europe and sold widely in Arab lands, the United States, and England. But it was in Germany after World War I that they had their greatest success. There they were used to explain all of the disasters that had befallen the country: the defeat in the war, the hunger, the destructive inflation.[51]

Hitler refers to the Protocols in Mein Kampf:

... To what extent the whole existence of this people is based on a continuous lie is shown incomparably by the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion, so infinitely hated by the Jews. They are based on a forgery, the Frankfurter Zeitung moans and screams once every week: the best proof that they are authentic. [...] the important thing is that with positively terrifying certainty they reveal the nature and activity of the Jewish people and expose their inner contexts as well as their ultimate final aims.[52]

Hitler endorsed it in his speeches from August 1921 on, and it was studied in German classrooms after the Nazis came to power. At the height of World War II, the Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels proclaimed: "The Zionist Protocols are as up-to-date today as they were the day they were first published."[36] In Norman Cohn's words, it served as the Nazis' "warrant for genocide".


Fascist Italy
While the first edition of the Protocols (1921) did not have much success, in the wake of the growing alliance between Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy, the Protocols were re-published in Italy in 1937 by Giovanni Preziosi with an introduction by Julius Evola.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protoco....2C_1930s-1940s

6 Contemporary usage and popularity
6.1 Middle East
6.1.1 Syria
6.1.2 Egypt
6.1.3 Iran
6.1.4 Saudi Arabia
6.1.5 Lebanon and Hezbollah
6.1.6 Hamas
6.1.7 Palestinian National Authority
6.2 Other contemporary appearances
6.2.1 United States
6.2.2 Soviet Union and post-Soviet states
6.2.2.1 The Soviet Union
6.2.2.2 The Russian Federation
6.2.3 Malaysia
7 References
8 Further reading
9 See also
10 External links
10.1 Notable web resources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protoco....2C_1930s-1940s

You just got dumped on very effectively. You have the nerve to be crazy? Never think again you will not be called upon to answer for it.

Roseanne Barr: Destruction of Jews in Israel Assured by Gaza Attacks
By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive)
December 31, 2008 - 12:38 ET
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppa...ed-gaza-attacks

Comedienne Roseanne Barr called Israel a "NAZI state" Tuesday, while declaring "The destruction of the jews [sic] in Israel has been assured with this inhuman attack on civilians in gaza [sic]."

You are the Cannabis Culture equivalent of Roseanne Barr, and just as deranged.

She also liked Hamas to a bunch of street gangs while depicting Israel's military action "equivilent to los angeles [sic] attacking and launching war on the people of watts [sic] to attempt to kill the bloods [sic] the crips [sic]."

Such was actually posted at her blog Roseanne World Tuesday.

The entire disgraceful rant is below the fold for those that can stand it (h/t Mere Rhetoric):

I said Israel will attack any boat carrying doctors and medical supplies--they have turned away the red cross already and all medical and food assistance. Israel is a NAZI state. The Jewish Soul is being tortured in Israel. The destruction of the jews in Israel has been assured with this inhuman attack on civilians in gaza. Hamas is the street gangs---this is equivilent to los angeles attacking and launching war on the people of watts to attempt to kill the bloods and the crips.

You know what's most amazing about this? Much of her Hollywood friends -- along with the vast majority of like-minded Netroot denizens -- silently -- and, for the latter, not so silently! -- agree with her.

"You have got to be crazy to think Nazi Germany was worried about close ties between Poles and Jews."

If they didn't worry, they should have - it was the only way Jews could survive:

"Unemployment was a major problem in the ghetto. Illegal workshops were created to manufacture goods to be sold illegally on the outside and raw goods were smuggled in often by children. Hundreds of four to five year old Jewish children went across en masse to the "Aryan side", sometimes several times a day, smuggling food into the ghettos, returning with goods that often weighed more than they did. Smuggling was often the only source of subsistence for Ghetto inhabitants, who would otherwise have died of starvation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto



From the very first days of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising the AK maintained contact with the Jewish fighters and tried to support them by providing supplies and launching supportive strikes against the Germans. Some of AK soldiers volunteered to join the fighters in the ghetto from the very first day of the uprising.[2] When one of the commanders of the Jewish units, Dawid Moryc Apfelbaum, sent a message to the AK informing the Poles that he had been wounded, and asking for arms and ammunition, Iwański took an AK unit (Państwowy Korpus Bezpieczeństwa, the Security Corps) through a tunnel into the Ghetto to directly support the Jewish fighters. Among the 18 members of the unit were his brother, Wacław and Henryk's son, Roman. They entered the ghetto on April 27, 1943, bringing ammunition and other supplies and on the spot they decided to relieve some of the exhausted fighters, engaging the Germans together with the remaining members of the ŻZW on the Muranowski Square. In the fight Wacław was killed; Henryk and his son Roman were seriously wounded, Roman fatally. Zbigniew, another son of Henryk fought on Karmelicka Street and died on May 3, 1943, escorting a group of Jews out of the ghetto. After being wounded, Iwański was brought from the ghetto, escorted by a group of Polish and Jewish fighters, among them Ber Mark, who later wrote a book about the Uprising. Nonetheless, Iwański returned to the ghetto at least once more, bringing another set of ammunition and supplies.[3][4][5] This was one of several actions of the Polish resistance providing assistance to the Jews in the ghetto.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henryk_Iwa%C5%84ski

"AFAIK the only thing Germans did fear during Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was Jewish-Polish cooperation. Of course full cooperation was not possible (if it would be possible to transport easily people and armoury into Ghetto, it would be also possible for all Jews to escape from it). But some Polish partisans fought together with Jews against Germans. There were also Polish flags waving on the buildings in Ghetto which was really horrific to German soldiers."

"In the Ghetto uprising Poles did not fight though the Polish Underground supplied some arms to the Jewish fighters."

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=qoEI9G7v7cA&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DqoEI9G7v7cA




"I suggest you quit this thread before you show any more of your pathetic ignorance; you will say anything stupid/false knowing full well that enough people will swallow it without fact checking."

You don't bother to fact-check if there was any cooperation between Poles and Jews during the Warsaw Ghetto or the uprising ... instead you cite the Russian-made Protocols as an example of why Poles and Jews never cooperated?

Once again, your ignorance knows no bounds.

"You know what's most amazing about this? Much of her Hollywood friends -- along with the vast majority of like-minded Netroot denizens -- silently -- and, for the latter, not so silently! -- agree with her."

It's because she's factually correct. I noticed you didn't attempt to disprove what she was saying ...

There is no need to disprove. If the Cripps or the Bloods began blowing shit up in Hollywood, they would get the National Guard called out and they would be attacked, shot, rocketed and a lot of bystanders would die too. I have already seen the Florida National Guard shoot the living shit out of both rioters and looters.
Roseanne Barr is talking out of her ass.

"If the Cripps or the Bloods began blowing shit up in Hollywood,"

In Gaza and in the Warsaw Ghetto it wasn't the scapegoats being aggressive - they were both on the defensive.

Your example doesn't reflect the reality of Gaza or the Warsaw Ghetto.