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#1500561 - 02/12/09 03:01 PM
Re: World conscience on trial
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Ganja God

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If you want to call my stance bigotry, so be it; just keep in mind the facts which prove to my satisfaction that Hamas has no intention of establishing a lasting peace with Israel. They are dedicated to establishing an Islamic empire at the expense of anyone(including Palestinians) who get in their way.
Hamas has offered cease fires, truces, and has said it is willing to negotiate. Israel has rejected those measures. Who then, is the obstacle to peace? When you speak in direct contradiction to the facts, how can we take your views seriously? Egypt wants Hamas to sign truce deal 'now' Published Date: January 14, 2009 CAIRO: Egypt was yesterday holding talks with Hamas on Cairo's Gaza truce proposal, with an official calling for the Islamists to sign up "now" in the hope of announcing a ceasefire before the end of the week. A Hamas delegation was to hold a fresh round of talks with Egyptian intelligence chief Omar Suleiman, as Israel's offensive ploughed on for an 18th day and diplomatic efforts to end the bloodshed plodded forward. We're working seriously with Hamas, we need to end the vagueness and they need to say yes, now, to our plan," a senior Egyptian diplomat told AFP, requesting anonymity. Egypt hopes that the Israeli war machine can be stopped by the end of the week and the massacres can be ended," with more than 900 Palestinians dead and 4,000 wounded. The diplomat said that Israel "appears now to agree" with the truce plan launched by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak a week ago, but Hamas is having difficulty signing up to it. The plan calls for a ceasefire for a pre-determined time, securing tunnels which Israel says are used to smuggle weapons from Egypt into Gaza, opening the embattled enclave's borders and restarting Palestinian reconciliation talks. Hamas delegates coming from Damascus demonstrate the luxury of patience while those from Gaza are in more of a hurry to end it," the diplomat said. "Syria could clearly play a more positive role. The Hamas negotiating team is made up of five officials, three from the exiled political leadership in Damascus and two from the Gaza Strip. "The problem is that until now there have been no real negotiations, no engagement or clear answers from them," the diplomat said. The Syria-based Hamas delegates have been shuttling between Cairo and Damascus for the last few days, reporting their talks to the exiled leadership. Two of the divisive issues are the possible presence of a multinational observer force on the Palestinian side of Egypt's 14-kilometre (nine-mile) border with Egypt and the duration of an eventual truce. Hamas says it doesn't want this force while Israel does, and the Jewish state wants an indefinite truce and the Islamists want it to be for a fixed period of time, around six months," the diplomat said. He said that Israel's main negotiator, senior defence official Amos Gilad, is "ready and waiting" to return to Cairo, after an initial round of talks with Egypt's Suleiman. The two men brokered the last six-month Israel-Hamas truce which ended in December, heralding the latest violence. Suleiman has negotiated previous truces with different Palestinian factions in 2001, 2003 and 2005. It appears, through various signals, that Israel accepts our plan but is not ready to announce it publicly," the Egyptian diplomat said. "The concept of the new truce has not changed, but on top of an agreement between the two parties not to use violence, it must be applied with undertakings, guarantees and multinational controls," he said. Such guarantees and controls must include securing borders-Israel's demand of an end to arms trafficking through tunnels into Gaza-and "opening border crossings and lifting the siege," as demanded by the Palestinians. Another key element is the Palestinian reconciliation process aimed at bringing Hamas and the rival Fatah of president Mahmud Abbas-who reigns in the occupied West Bank-back together again. Hamas's Gaza-based political leader Ismail Haniya said on Monday that any truce plan must stipulate "a withdrawal of Zionist forces," as well as an "end to the aggression," and ending the blockade by opening border crossing points. The Egyptian plan will work out," the diplomat said. - AFP Local News HSBC invests in Kuwait youth through donation to Injaz KUWAIT: HSBC, the world's local bank and one of the largest banking and financial services organizations in the world has... MPs demand citizen debt write-offs amid crisis US embassy celebrates Black History Month Kuwait-Dutch ties 'a role model' MoE playground rental issue Salwa Cup opens with cultural show Criticism against MPs' remarks on MoI Over 1,000 Kuwaitis leave private sector jobs Regional News Israeli rivals battle for power after tight vote JERUSALEM: Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and hawkish ex-premier Benjamin Netanyahu were locked in a battle for power yesterday after... Iran minister says he's optimistic about US Islamist sentenced Oil tanker collision probe under way, no spill likely China's Hu heads to oil kingpin Saudi Arabia Stormy Israel votes in tight election Bahrain to reopen embassy in Lebanon Syria says US to waive sanctions for plane parts Home | About Us | Jobs | Contact Us Local | Regional | International | Spectrum | Analysis | Sports | Cartoons | Daily Images | Our Archives | Advertising Rates All rights reserved. © Kuwait Times Newspaper 2006. http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=NzYwMTI2MTUx I should remind you that even the bulk of Arab nations and their citizens are more aware of Hamas` recalcitrance in brokering a cease fire honorably, much less a peaceful settlement.Having chosen the path of asymmetrical warfare which a small minority seeks control over a large majority through portraying themselves as the victims and garnering support from the left will only strengthen Israel`s resolve to stonewall and isolate Hamas. You haven`t been reading the Jerusalem Post lately, have you? There are more than enough Israelis who would form a coalition government which would accept a two state solution. Hamas can not deny this. Hamas is playing crippled wing on the sympathies of ignorant people far from the realities of the goals of terrorism.
Leaders of Hamas can afford the luxury of playing games whil the Gazans want an end to the fighting? These guys really care about Palestine. You can tell by how pleased they are to drag their feet in order to create more martyrs for political gain.
Edited by benjamin (02/12/09 03:07 PM)
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#1500608 - 02/12/09 04:49 PM
Re: World conscience on trial
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Carpal Tunnel

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"Having chosen the path of asymmetrical warfare which a small minority seeks control over a large majority through portraying themselves as the victims and garnering support from the left"
- *IF* that was the definition of asymmetrical warfare, then israel is also employing that tactic, especially in america where most jews are liberal/democrats...but that isn't what asymmetrical warfare means
"There are more than enough Israelis who would form a coalition government which would accept a two state solution."
- we will know the answer to that after the israeli president undemocratically appoints the new head of the coalition government...it appears israel will be ruled by politicians who favour a one-state-with-no-arabs solution
Netanyahu Likely to Form New Israeli Coalition By Robert Berger, 2/12/2009 11:55:51 AM
Jerusalem - Israeli election officials are continuing to tallying votes Thursday before announcing the final results of parliamentary elections. It appears more likely that Likud party leader Benjamin Netanyahu will form the next Israeli government.
Even though he came in a close second in the popular vote, analysts say it is likely that hawkish Likud party leader Benjamin Netanyahu will form the next Israeli government and become prime minister.
Right-wing parties control parliament and they back Mr. Netanyahu. The right has 65 seats in the 120-member Knesset, or parliament. The center-left, led by dovish Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, has 55 seats including seven for Arab parties. So among the Zionist parties, the right has a solid parliamentary majority.
"Israelis voted for change and they clearly gave a decisive victory to Netanyahu as the leader of the national camp," Ron Dermer, an advisor for Mr. Netanyahu. "Netanyahu can form a government very quickly."
Livni apparently won the popular vote but she is on course to become the first Israeli leader to "win" an election and fail to become prime minister.
But Knesset member Ze'ev Bielsky of Livni's Kadima party says she is not out yet because she defeated Mr. Netanyahu, who is nicknamed Bibi.
"Most of the people voted for Tzipi Livni, it was more personal elections as we all have seen, it was either Bibi or Tzipi, they voted Tzipi; so of course she's got the right to form a government and if it will be fruitful we'll have a government under Tzipi Livni," she said.
Israeli President Shimon Peres will meet with the various parties and then decide who to appoint to form a government, Mr. Netanyahu or Livni.
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#1500727 - 02/12/09 11:26 PM
Jewish state Wants Russians to host Intl. peace co
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Ganja God

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Russia may finally get its ME summit Feb. 13, 2009 Herb Keinon , THE JERUSALEM POST While not enthused at this time about any international peace conference, Israel would prefer that - if one becomes inevitable - it be hosted by Russia, not France, senior government officials said Thursday. The officials spoke ahead of a somewhat oddly timed visit to Israel on Sunday by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, and as a race was heating up between Russia and France over who would host the next international Middle East conference. One of the reasons for Lavrov's visit, even at a time of governmental transition in Israel, is to push Moscow's bid, the official said. Lavrov will also be going to the Palestinian Authority, Egypt, Oman and Bahrain. Lavrov, according to Russian sources, will meet with President Shimon Peres, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Likud head Binyamin Netanyahu. Israeli officials said Jerusalem favored Russia to host another Middle East summit - if one must be held - because Moscow had been pushing for a follow-up to the 2007 Annapolis conference for months; because the idea had been enshrined in numerous Quartet statements since; because Israel appreciated Moscow's "balanced" position during Operation Cast Lead; and because French President Nicolas Sarkozy seemed intent on using a conference to push for wider international acceptance of Syrian President Bashar Assad, even though Damascus had not modified its behavior regarding Hizbullah, Hamas, Lebanon or Iran. The officials said that with US President Barack Obama's administration still not yet in full stride on the Middle East, Sarkozy - who is always looking for initiatives - sensed an opportunity to raise his country's profile in Middle East diplomacy. The move, according to Israeli officials, has irritated the Russians. "The French are trying to do everything to paint a moderate portrait of Assad, even though Syria has not yet sent an ambassador to Lebanon, has not stopped the arms smuggling to Hizbullah, and is still supporting Hamas. The French are creating an illusion of Syria, as if they are not reading the papers or intelligence documents," the officials said. Sarkozy, who floated the international conference idea last month, discussed it in Paris earlier in the week with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. On Wednesday in Moscow, following talks with top EU foreign policy officials, Lavrov said that "we will soon announce the time frame for holding a Moscow conference." An announcement of such a meeting while Israel's leaders are still busy putting together a coalition, however, could be awkward. In general, Foreign Ministry officials said that from a diplomatic perspective, and out of a concern for Israel's standing abroad, it was important to form a government as quickly as possible. The confusion caused by Tuesday's election, and the prospect of a long, drawn-out coalition-building process have stymied some of the Foreign Ministry's activities, one ministry official said. He added that it was difficult for Israeli diplomats to respond to all types of rumors regarding the next government - from stories that it would ditch a two-state solution to reports that it would expand the settlements - without knowing conclusively who the next prime minister would be and what the new coalition's guidelines would look like. According to the official, any government that backed away from Israel's commitment to a two-state solution would find itself badly isolated in the international community. "Any government that says it doesn't accept two states would be completely isolated. No one would work with it, or if they did, it would be tense. Israel's efforts to upgrade relations with the EU and join the OECD, as well as many processes begun with the US, would be endangered. In that scenario, our biggest friends would not assist us." The official said the very fact that there was concern abroad that Israel was going to take a sharp turn was not good, and did not add to trust in Israel. "The continuous dealing with the question of whether the country will remain committed to the peace process creates a bad impression abroad, and we don't have the tools to deal with it, because we don't know what the future government's polices will be," he said. "A vacuum is not good for Israeli diplomacy." This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com /servlet/Satellite?cid=1233304770149&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull [ Back to the Article ] Copyright 1995- 2009 The Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/ http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233304770149&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull Remember Grozny?? Why not? The Europeans haven`t got the juice. A young woman sets us shop in the center of Grozny. Behind her, the presidential palace is in ruins. Just days before, it was destroyed by three Russian blasts in order to deter Chechens from demonstrating there. Its destruction attempted to cripple morale as it was a symbol of the Chechan cause. Russians know how to make Gazas too.
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#1500847 - 02/13/09 10:08 AM
Re: Jewish state Wants Russians to host Intl. peace co
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Ganja God
 
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Jewish Activists Protest World Zionist Organization Here in New York, a group of Jewish activists have been staging a twenty-four-hour protest in front of the Midtown Manhattan building that houses the World Zionist Organization and the Jewish Agency. Jane Hirschmann helped organize the event. Jane Hirschmann: “My parents were Holocaust survivors. And when I was a young girl, they taught me that it was important to have a Jewish homeland. But I question all that, because if getting a Jewish homeland means that you have to persecute 750,000 Palestinians and remove them from their land to get the state of Israel and then to continue for sixty years to persecute other people to control their air, their land, their sea, to control their water, to decide where they can go and when they can go, to put up barbed wire and keep them behind a wall, then I don’t want my children to grow up learning that because you’ve been persecuted in the past, you have a right to persecute others. And that’s why I’m standing here today as a Jew.” Other protesters included the artist Abigail Levine. Abigail Levine: “I don’t feel conscionable with this senseless violence being perpetuated in the name of the Jewish people and Jewish culture. And in one of the centers of the Jewish community in the world, here in New York, I feel like we have to stand up and say no to the occupation and no to violence against Palestinians. These people have a right to a humane existence and to education and to a decent home, like we demanded in our history.” http://www.democracynow.org/2009/2/13/headlines
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#1500990 - 02/13/09 03:43 PM
Re: Jewish state Wants Russians to host Intl. peace co
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Ganja God

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All so very nicely put; standing in New York City speaking freely as a Jew is a far cry from standing outside the old US Embassy in Tehran and condemning Shiite M uslims for funding the murders of jewish citizens in many parts of the world. Too many people seem to think that only Jews in Israel are murdered for Zionist Nazi atrocities. Not true. As a New York resident this group should be aware of the terrible consequences which were brought about by hate speeches designed to draw blacks to Islam and hatred of Jews Farrakhan been talking to Pat Buchanan again? He doesn’t hate Jews, Farrakhan pleads. It’s just that Hollywood Jews continually stereotype black people. And Jewish landlords and merchants cheat black folks. And Jewish agents and employers exploit them. "I don’t like the way you (Jews) leech on us. See a leech is somebody that sucks your blood, takes from you and don’t give you a damned thing. … . You become our manager. You become our agent." You see, it’s just coincidence that everyone the Calypso Kid despises is Jewish. Also, Jews are, "wicked deceivers of the American people. You have sucked their blood. You are not real Jews (who everyone knows were black) You are the synagogue of Satan, and you have wrapped your tentacles around the US government, and you are deceiving and sending this nation to hell… . But if you choose to crucify me (subtle reference to the Deicide charge), know that Allah will crucify you." Oh, alright – he does hate Jews. Little wonder that you’ll usually find copies of notorious anti-Semitic tracts -- like "The Jews and Their Lies," "The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews" (purporting to "document" Jewish control of the slave trade) and, that favorite of Aryan Nation-types and holy warriors alike, "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion") -- on sale at Farrakhan events, as they were at the 1995 March. That Minister Farrakhan is concerned about alleged Jewish control of America, doesn’t mean he’s enamored of the Land of the Free. In a 1997 article in The Amsterdam News, Louie-Lu-i disclosed, "A decree of death has been passed on America. The judgment of God has been rendered and she must be destroyed." Farrakhan and God regularly exchange e-mails. Doubtless, one reason Mullah Louis detests America is ‘cause it’s full of – Caucasians. Farrakhan: "White people are potential humans…they haven’t evolved yet." The black fuhrer has also been known to refer to the white race collectively as the "anti-Christ." Although Herr Farrakhan rarely pulls his punches, there are things he’d rather not say directly. So, in organizing the next Million Morons March, he’s partnered with one Malik Zulu Shabazz, leader of the (anti-Semitic/racist) New Black Panther Party. At a 2002 protest in front of the B’nai B’rith building in Washington DC, Zulu Shabazz told the mob: "Kill every goddamn Zionist (Jew )in Israel. Goddamn little babies. Goddamn old ladies. Blow up Zionist super-markets!" The better to kill Zionist babies and Zionist grandmothers? http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=6C349393-C54C-4E2F-9630-78531E58938D Oh no, there`s no way Farrakhan can ever be so misunderstood so greatly as to be recognized as hating Jews. It`s only Zionists he has issues with. Isee no difference in DML`s methods. He loves Jews. He`s only against Zionism. He only thinks Jews in Israel are Nazis. But it`s okay for Russia to level Grozny in order to stop Chechnya`s Islamic terrorists from murdering any more whites in Moscow theaters and schools. The double standards are far too obvious to deny. Zionists have been converted into a vehicle whereby hatred of Jews is somehow spun to cover up the underlying motivations for the hate speech of groups like The Nation of Islam. [edit] Zionism Main articles: Zionism and History of Zionism Theodor Herzl, visionary of the Jewish State, in 1901.During the 1870s and 1880 the Jewish population in Europe started to discuss more about immigrating to Israel and to establish a national home to the Jewish nation. In 1882 the first Zionistic settlement was founded - Rishon LeZion, by immigrants whom belonged to the "Hovevei Zion" movement whom originated from the Russian empire. Later on the "Bilu" movement was founded, which established many settlements in the land of Israel. The Zionist movement was founded officially after the Kattowitz convention (1884) and the World Zionist Congress (1897) and it was Theodor Herzl, which started the struggle to get the world superpowers to establish a state for the Jews. After the First World War, it seemed that the conditions for establish a state like this had arrived: The United Kingdom occupied the Palestine from the Ottoman Empire and the Jews got a promise for a "national home" from the British in the form of the Balfour Declaration of 1917 which was given to Chaim Weizmann. In 1920 the British Mandate of Palestine started and the British had promised to create and foster a Jewish national home in Palestine. In the beginning, The pro-Jewish Herbert Samuel was appointed High Commissioner in Palestine, the Hebrew University of Jerusalem was established and several big Jewish immigration waves to Palestine occurred – the situation seemed to be going well. Nevertheless. The Arab inhabitants of the Palestine weren’t fond of the Jewish immigration which increased and they began to oppose the Jewish settlement and the pro-Jewish policy of the British government by means of violent uprising and terror. Arab gangs began performing terror acts and murders on convoys and on the Jewish population. After the 1920 Arab riots and 1921 Jaffa riots, the Jewish leadership in Palestine believed that the British had no desire to confront local Arab gangs over their attacks on Palestinian Jews. Realizing that they could not rely on the British administration for protection from these gangs, the Jewish leadership created the Haganah organization to protect their farms and Kibbutzim. Large riots occurred during the Arab massacres of 1929 and the 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine. Due to the Arab violence the United Kingdom gradually started to backtrack from the original idea of a Jewish state and started to speculate in a binational solution or an Arab state which would have a Jewish minority. Meanwhile, the Jews of the United States and Europe gained great success in the fields of the science, culture and the economy. The most prominent physicists of Europe during that period were Jews, prominently the scientist Albert Einstein. In the Soviet Union, many Jews were involved in the October Revolution and belonged to the communist party. [edit] The Holocaust A boy raises his hands when the Jews leave the bunkers after the submission of the Warsaw Ghetto UprisingMain article: The Holocaust In 1933, with the rise to power of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party in Germany, The Jewish situation became more severe. Economic crises, racial anti-Semitic laws, and a fear of an upcoming war led many Jews to flee from Europe to Palestine, to the United States and to the Soviet Union. In 1939 World War II began and until 1941 Hitler occupied almost all of Europe - including Poland where millions of Jews were living at that time, and France. In 1941 when the invasion to the Soviet Union began, Hitler ordered the initiation of the Final Solution – an extensive organized operation in an unprecedented scale aimed at the annihilation of the Jewish population of Europe. This genocide, in which methodically and in a horrifying cruelty six million Jews were murdered, is known as the Holocaust. In Poland, the Auschwitz concentration camp alone, murdered above one million Jews in gas chambers. The mass scale of the holocaust, and the horrors which happened during it, heavily affected the Jewish nation and the world public opinion, which only understood the dimensions of the holocaust after the war. After the war it became clear that it's impossible to let the Jews in the fate of the nations of the world any more, and efforts were increased calling to initiate establishing a shelter for the Jewish wounded nation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_history I don`t believe your European Model has progressed very much toward tolerance of either Jews or Muslims. I know for a fact that Muslims in Europe are on the cusp of provoking a very severe backlash from non Muslim Europeans. If bending over backwards does not prevent the kind of violence seen in France mostly by gangs of Muslim youth, I should think that there will only be one of two outcomes for the future of Europe. EitherIslam becomes the dominate player in Europe, or another dark and bloody period of coercing Muslims to live in ghettos complete with walls as in former times, and occasional forays into these communities by both right wing and left wing extremist groups into these enclaves to kill and torture Muslims will begin the European Model all over again.
I would that someone would clear the air; does poverty create terrorism, or does terrorism create poverty. I believe if you simply trace the footsteps of the PLO and others, you could answer that truthfully
A Collection of Historical Quotations Relating to the Arab Refugees
Collected by Moshe Kohn
ON APRIL 23, 1948 Jamal Husseini, acting chairman of the Palestine Arab Higher Committee (AHC), told the UN Security Council: "The Arabs did not want to submit to a truce ... They preferred to abandon their homes, belongings and everything they possessed."
ON SEPTEMBER 6, 1948, the Beirut Daily Telegraph quoted Emil Ghory, secretary of the AHC, as saying: "The fact that there are those refugees is the direct consequence of the action of the Arab states in opposing partition and the Jewish state. The Arab states agreed upon this policy unanimously..."
ON JUNE 8, 1951, Habib Issa, secretary-general of the Arab League, wrote in the New York Lebanese daily al-Hoda that in 1948, Azzam Pasha, then League secretary, had "assured the Arab peoples that the occupation of Palestine and of Tel Aviv would be as simple as a military promenade ... Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes and property, and to stay temporarily in neighbouring fraternal states."
IN THE MARCH 1976 issue of Falastin a-Thaura, then the official journal of the Beirut-based PLO, Mahmud Abbas ("Abu Mazen"), PLO spokesman, wrote: "The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live."
ON APRIL 9, 1953, the Jordanian daily al-Urdun quoted a refugee, Yunes Ahmed Assad, formerly of Deir Yassin, as saying: "For the flight and fall of the other villages, it is our leaders who are responsible, because of the dissemination of rumours exaggerating Jewish crimes and describing them as atrocities in order to inflame the Arabs ... they instilled fear and terror into the hearts of the Arabs of Palestine until they fled, leaving their homes and property to the enemy."
ANOTHER refugee told the Jordanian daily a-Difaa on September 6, 1954: "The Arab governments told us, 'Get out so that we can get in.' So we got out, but they did not get in."
THE JORDANIAN daily Falastin wrote on February 19, 1949: "The Arab states ... encouraged the Palestinian Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies."
ON OCTOBER 2, 1948, the London Economist reported, in an eyewitness account of the flight of Haifa's Arabs: "There is little doubt that the most potent of the factors [in the flight] were the announcements made over the air by the Arab Higher Executive urging all Arabs in Haifa to quit ... And it was clearly intimated that those Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades."
THE PRIME Minister of Syria in 1948, Khaled al-Azem, in his memoirs, published in 1973, listed what he thought were the reasons for the Arab failure in 1948: " ... the fifth factor was the call by the Arab governments to the inhabitants of Palestine to evacuate it and leave for the bordering Arab countries .... We brought destruction upon a million Arab refugees by calling on them and pleading with them to leave their land." /size]
[size:14pt]Geneva Convention? Only expedites the burial of the victors war crimes. http://www.gfbv.it/3dossier/cecenia/cecen-en.html
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#1505279 - 02/24/09 04:22 PM
Re: World conscience on trial
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The mask is off Kahane was ostracized; Lieberman is a welcome guest in every living room and television studio. Imagine: Ehud Barak does not rule out a coalition with him; Uzi Landau, considered a "democrat," is now Lieberman's number two; a former senior ambassador and a retired police major general also adorn the list. Did we know that Israel was being represented in Washington by an avowed racist in the person of Daniel Ayalon? When the intifada of Israel's Arabs breaks out here one day, we will know whom to blame - those who criminally incited against them and, no less, those who turned this incitement into something acceptable and legitimate. This cancerous growth has spread to all parts of society; it remains only to issue a desperate last call: Keep away from this abomination. Anything but Yisrael Beiteinu, lest it really become Israel, our home. http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=11&ar=2688 http://www.kevindayhoff.com/uploaded_images/NYT_Warsaw_uprising_editors-735055.gif The Ghetto Jews Go to War On January 18, 1943, the SS, as well as Latvian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian and Polish forces, looking to sweep up thousands for transport to the "east," came face to face with the Ghetto Jewish resistance. "No one believed we would survive. Me neither," recalled Shalom Stefan Grayek. "But I just wanted one thing. I wanted to avenge myself and those who murdered my family, my friends and my people." Many SS fell in battle as Jews struck first with grenades, Molotov cocktails, and incendiary devices, and then picked them off with ease when the SS forces were caught in a crossfire while making their retreat. Lacking weaponry, the Jewish resistance used every means at their disposal to expel the enemy, even deploying boiling water from above. Amidst the explosions, whizzing bullets, and blinding smoke, underground members dashed onto the streets to retrieve weapons, grenades, and ammunition from the dead and wounded. Every grenade, gun and bullet had great value! The valiant resistance from rooftops, bunkers, attics and makeshift defensive positions forced the SS and their friendly "volunteers" to evacuate. http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-24957649_ITM There is your European Model, Daxid. Who`s hunting who? Was there not more terror in Warsaw than Israel or any nation should tolerate before bulldozing the attackers.
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#1516036 - 03/22/09 10:01 PM
Re: First Gaza, next Lebanon
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Security -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mideast: New report highlights tensions on Israel-Lebanon border New York, 10 March (AKI) - The recent hostilities in the Gaza Strip have posed the most serious challenge to peace between Israel and Hezbollah since the adoption of a United Nations resolution which helped end the so-called July war in 2006, United Nations secretary-general Ban Ki-moon said in a new report. Rockets fired into Israel from southern Lebanon and return fire have led to heightened tensions along the so-called Blue Line that separates the Israeli and Lebanese sides of the border and “endangered the cessation of hostilities agreement,” Ban wrote in his latest report to the Security Council on Resolution 1701. The 2006 resolution called for renewed respect for the Blue Line, the disarming of militias and an end to arms smuggling, among other measures. “The firing of rockets from southern Lebanon towards Israel, which I condemn in all instances, constituted a serious violation” of the resolution, Ban said. The attacks were launched from sites close to populated areas, including a school in session at the time, “putting innocent civilians at risk,” he said. Ban added: The fact that the Israel Defense Forces returned fire with artillery shells into Lebanese territory on 8 and 14 January without providing prior warning to UNIFIL (United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon) is also a cause for serious concern,” noting that these acts endangered civilians, as well as UN peacekeeping troops and soldiers of the Lebanese Armed Forces. “At the same time, I was encouraged by the measures that were taken by all parties to avoid an escalation,” he wrote, with the resolution’s mechanisms having served as an “effective deterrent and prevented an escalation of the situation in southern Lebanon.” But he cautioned that these incidents “also highlight the precarious nature of the current cessation of hostilities and the necessity for both parties to take further steps to address a number of unresolved issues,” including disarming militant groups. Ban reiterated his call on Israel to immediately end all over-flights of Lebanese territory which violate Lebanon’s sovereignty and Resolution 1701. The report also called on all Lebanese leaders to exercise restraint ahead of the 7 June parliamentary elections, which “will bring added challenges that may test the country’s frail domestic stability.” The 2006 Lebanon war was a month-long conflict between Hezbollah guerrillas and the Israeli military. The conflict began on 12 July 2006, and continued until a United Nations-brokered ceasefire went into effect on 14 August 2006. The war formally ended in September 2006 when Israel lifted its naval blockade of Lebanon. Israel's military operation in the Gaza Strip in December 2008 and January 2009 provoked outrage across the Arab world and sparked worldwide protests against Israel. More than 1,330 Palestinians died in Israel's offensive and another 5,400 were injured. Thirteen Israelis died during the conflict. http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=3.0.3088425973 As usual, you are full of shit. Clearly the Hezbollah and Hamas dogs will continue to provoke retaliations which purposefully endanger civillian lives. Lebanon next? Isn`t it quite clear that is what Hezbollah wants? Why are there no UN peacekeeping forces in Israel? Because Israel has no problems with peaceful living. Why are UN troops in Lebanon? DML:Malignant parasite
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