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#1567989 - 08/21/09 12:22 PM Re: Liberal, NDP, and Green Opposition to Extradit ***** [Re: scot420a]
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we need a change!press along!
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#1576781 - 09/17/09 06:18 AM Re: Liberal, NDP, and Green Opposition to Extradition [Re: Poter Principle]
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You also have to write to the Minister of Foreign Affairs. It's both him and the Justice Minister who are involved in extradition cases. We know the Justice Minister won't listen but maybe Lawrence Cannon will, though he's probably just another Harper lacky.

Incidentally, the extradition can be refused, as stated here;

"Reasons for Refusal

When order not to be made

44. (1) The Minister shall refuse to make a surrender order if the Minister is satisfied that

(a) the surrender would be unjust or oppressive having regard to all the relevant circumstances; or

(b) the request for extradition is made for the purpose of prosecuting or punishing the person by reason of their race, religion, nationality, ethnic origin, language, colour, political opinion, sex, sexual orientation, age, mental or physical disability or status or that the person’s position may be prejudiced for any of those reasons." http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdoc/cs/E-23.01/bo-ga:l_2-gb:s_31/20090915/en#anchorbo-ga:l_2-gb:s_31

Well, it is unjust or oppressive to jail a person for 20 years when Canada only gives out $500 fines for the same offense. How are those two sentences similar? Clearly, the US sentencing practices are unjust and oppressive in the eyes of Canadian judges or they would be doing the same thing. Part (b) of the above quote also clearly applies in this case. If the two Ministers responsible for extradition don't refuse in this case, they will have proved that they don't even look at the facts of a case but simply rubber stamp any extradition request from the US. Is that doing a competent job?

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#1576886 - 09/17/09 02:50 PM Re: Liberal, NDP, and Green Opposition to Extradition [Re: BobCajun]
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What part of this does not indicate that the prosecution of Marc Emery was because of his political opinions?

"Emery and his organization had been designated as one of the Attorney General's most wanted international drug trafficking organizational targets -- one of only 46 in the world and the only one from Canada.

Hundreds of thousands of dollars of Emery's illicit profits are known to have been channeled to marijuana legalization groups active in the United States and Canada. Drug legalization lobbyists now have one less pot of money to rely on."

Why would the US Attorney General consider a Cannabis seed seller who could be found by simply walking into his store one of the most wanted men in the world? Is that how incompetent the DEA is, that they couldn't find Marc Emery? Why was he wanted so badly? Could nobody in the US find Cannabis seeds without him? I find that unlikely.

Did the amount of Pot seized in the US suddenly spike right after Emery started selling seeds? Where's the evidence for that? If someone was going to grow Cannabis, buying seeds from Emery was just one option. Buying some seeded weed or bumming a cutting from a friend would have been their second option. Same result would have happened whether Emery existed or not. Marc Emery did not have a world monopoly on Cannabis seeds. They can't prove that even one less plant would have been grown without Emery's involvement. He was not responsible for millions of plants being grown, just which strain it happened to be and there was already plenty of high potency strains available in the US. Where do they think most of those strains were originally developed? It wasn't Amsterdam or Vancouver, it was California and Seattle. So why was Emery the person who made the list of people to "get" instead of the people who actually are responsible for the existence of strains like Northern Lights and Skunk? Marc must be awfully powerful if he was singlehandedly responsible for the US Cannabis growing industry. Why didn't Ben Dronkers make the list? Ben is far more deserving of the honor. He was Marc's source. Aren't they supposed to go after the source, not just the middleman? I guess they think Marc also ran the Dutch companies he got the seeds from.

Even a politician should have enough active brain cells to see that something is hinky about this whole case. There was one reason and one reason only why they went after Marc, because he publicly exposed how unfair Cannabis laws currently are and lobbied to stop the insanity. They don't like people getting in the way of their insanity. Both the Foreign Affairs Minister and the Justice Minister should be removed from office for extreme incompetence and for using their offices have people silenced whom they don't happen to agree with. They are using the US authorities as a means to deport a Canadian citizen to a foreign country just to get rid of him. How else could you interpret it?

I suggest everyone write letters to the Conservative Party headquarters (or whatever) and tell them you won't be voting for them next time because of the two Ministers abusing their offices for political axe grinding. Extraditing a person whom they declined to charge for the same offense clearly indicates that their true goal is the deportation of a Canadian citizen to a country known for violent oppression of their own people and those of other countries, like Canada.

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#1577141 - 09/18/09 12:50 PM Re: Liberal, NDP, and Green Opposition to Extradition [Re: BobCajun]
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if we were to write them letters i doubt if they would even be read, probably just tossed aside. they dont care their conformists you cant expect much more from them.
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#1581420 - 10/02/09 08:37 PM Re: Liberal, NDP, and Green Opposition to Extradit [Re: scot420a]
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I've signed/ wrote a few myself. New to the forum. The problem is , most people are not willing to do that much.

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#1581834 - 10/04/09 06:07 PM Re: Liberal, NDP, and Green Opposition to Extradit [Re: zeil]
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The only thing that keeps me going is knowing that people are taking action to help free him and all other drug war prisoners!

Please regularly check the FREE MARC EMERY page at www.CannabisCulture.com for ways you can help. We need action, not just sympathy, to save him!

Marc and I are working on a great list of things you can do (check back in the next week or two) and there are plenty of ways to get involved! More ideas keep getting added all the time, so go to our website every few days and see what else you can do to help.

Many thanks again for the support. Marc and I need continued efforts from his fans and friends, so please do everything you can until he's free.

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#1582266 - 10/06/09 08:01 AM Re: Liberal, NDP, and Green Opposition to Extradit [Re: JodieEmery]
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I think it is truely ludicrous.
I've also signed a few and im spreading the word through my community.
There's power in numbers

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#1584311 - 10/12/09 11:55 PM Re: Liberal, NDP, and Green Opposition to Extradit [Re: RevoGrass]
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Registered: 10/12/09
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I'm completely sickened that, yet again, our government sits on their asses and allows Marc to be extradited rather than serve time here. Even more sickened that he has to serve any time at all.

I've followed the story for a long time now, and have been writing letters/emails and making tel calls to pretty much anyone in power that could actually do something about changing not only the stance they take in regards to health effects and studies, but also regarding decriminalization.

I've been casually smoking pot for years (30+) and 15 of those have been due to a degenerative disk disease and not wanting to take prescription medication that is highly addictive as well as debilitating (opiates anyone?). Thank the gods that I have a GP that's onboard with assisting in getting my medical marijuana designation, which is now in the works.

I've only met Marc once, and he was a very compassionate and intelligent man. And I hope that, with all the hard work and effort of Pressure Groups in Canada and the US, we can see him free from these asinine charges and imprisonment.

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#1584334 - 10/13/09 12:44 AM Re: Liberal, NDP, and Green Opposition to Extradit [Re: Lesaonar]
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Welcome 2 CC. smile

I have no faith in Canada, no pride as a Canadian, and in my opinion our country is now run by a psychopathic assholic alcoholic moron.

I work hard, play hard and have a blast doing it. Soon that is all going to be illegal?

I want a fucking revolution.
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#1585583 - 10/17/09 11:15 AM Re: Liberal, NDP, and Green Opposition to Extradit [Re: JodieEmery]
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AWWWWWWW.......Hasen't he sufferd enoughf! Let the poor bugger GO ALREADY!
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