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#1350521 - 09/29/07 06:34 PM Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How * [Re: HydroFarmer]
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nice arcin, i have been using the DWC system in buckets for quite some time now. I really do like doing things this way, however I'm looking into a vertical grow now that I have an entire room to commit to only flowering, you guys should check it out under the grow room section

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#1359325 - 11/08/07 09:49 AM Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How [Re: skunkwerks420]
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I've been growing organic soil for awhile. After reading this thread a couple months ago I decided to try DWC. I built one bucket for the test, rooted a grapefruit clone into it. It's now been in 12/12 for 7 days, and it is EXPLODING with growth! I used Fox Farm grow big with some B1 for veg, and just started with a mix of Grow Big and FF Tiger Bloom for the first week of flower. I'll go to just Tiger Bloom next week, plus a splash of FF Big Bloom.

The first and most amazing thing I notice about this method is how fast it grows. It took about 8 days to show roots, then I vegged for 2 weeks after that, plus one week in 12/12, and it is already the size of my soil plants that were vegged for a month and in week 5 of flower. The fan leaves are three times the size of my soil plants. I noticed the most explosive growth in the last week since I moved it to the flower room, where I have co2. Moving it from a 175w MH to a 1000w HPS with co2 made this plant double in size in a week. AMAZING!

I like organic grown weed, I have swore by organics for a long time. This is my first hydro attempt, but i want to see if I can do organic DWC.
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#1362850 - 11/23/07 09:24 PM Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How [Re: p_light420]
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I'm on my 2nd crop right now, using drip hydro in bato buckets. My first crop was strictly a half-assed affair- 8 5-gallon buckets under a single 400 in a corner of the basement. Eh, it didn't turn out horrible- I'm smoking the last of the harvest as I write this- but I didn't put effort into it. Was more of a "If I can half-ass it and make it work, I'll give it a good effort next time" kinda deal, and I still got about 7 ounces out of some random stash seed.

I dumped a lot of cash to build and set up my grow room because I intend to self-medicate for the indefinite future basically free-of-charge. That being said- had I run across these forums 3 months ago, I would have saved a grand, easy, and went with this bucket setup over the drip system I have now.

Kudos Arc for putting together an idiotproof guide to home hydro. I fully intend to put this to use for my mothers and clones in the very near future.

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#1363126 - 11/25/07 02:25 AM Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How [Re: Big Stinky]
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A question about multiple bubble buckets.

If I wanted to connect them all to a large reservoir, do I just connect them all via 1/2" tubing and T connectors at the bottoms of the buckets? Do I need a shutoff valve or something? Also, when mixing up the nutes in main reservoir, will the water mix well enough to reach all the buckets? Seems like that would be a problem if the water isnt being pumped in any way. Anyone have a setup like this? Any input?

I'm sick of hauling my 5 gallon buckets to and fro. I also dont want to disturb my plants by taking them out of the bucket to change nutes.
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#1363211 - 11/25/07 11:44 AM Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How [Re: HydroFarmer]
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Sure, you could connect them all together and use a float switch of some sort to keep the level equal. There are commercial controller buckets out there that do what you want, with a reservoir and float switch to automate it. I imagine it would be just as effective and way cheaper to put one together yourself.

As far as keeping the nutes mixed in the res, well... I think that was one of the reasons arcin wrote this post like he did- KISS. Everything here *can* be improved upon, but arcin is, as I have seen through all of my browsiing here, the Messiah of Keep It Simple. And Cheap \:\) But yeah, I think a single airstone in the reservoir would be more than adequate to keep it thoroughly mixed, and oxygenated, at the same time.
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#1364590 - 11/30/07 07:39 PM Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How [Re: Big Stinky]
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Okay, here's what I did. I linked each bucket in a circle where each end is connected to an extra bucket with a water pump to create an inline pump action for mixing. Works pretty well aside from an issue with the first bucket in the line has a higher water level than the last in line. I assume this has to do with too much resistance in the line. I got the weakest pump I could find. 66 gph turned to the weakest setting.




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#1364603 - 11/30/07 09:17 PM Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How [Re: HydroFarmer]
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Great pics.

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#1370536 - 12/22/07 05:59 PM Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How [Re: Earl]
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That's similar to mine, but here are a couple caveats for anyone building a system like this:

1: It's probably not a good idea.

Don't get me wrong, I like my system. And I'll probably keep screwing with it because I like to tinker and I like things that are complex.

But the fact is that once you start recircing, you probably could have saved time and money with a good F&D system.

2: It's very vulnerable to fouling of the lines.
What happened to me was a combination of poor circulation from trying to bend tubing where I really needed an elbow, excessive res temps and a few other minor mistakes. I developed pythium, which further clogged the lines.

3: Understand plumbing or spend extra on plumbing hardware to compensate. I know hydraulics. I know high pressure systems in general. I can unclog a toilet, but that's the extent of my experience with gravity flow plumbing.

I added a large pump to make sure that there would be no further flow problems. This one will pump 3000gph. At that point, the common drain line isn't going to cut it.

I had to run individual 3/4 inch lines to keep the buckets from overflowing. I did get the increased flow, but the pump also causes:

4: Heat. The pump added so much heat that my res temps went from 78f to 90f. Ok if you're making stew - not so much if you want massive snowy roots. So, off to google to find some plans for building a chiller. If you are patient enough to unbend a piece of copper tubing without breaking it, you can build a chiller for little or nothing that will cool even a large system.

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#1370540 - 12/22/07 06:07 PM Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How [Re: p_light420]
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 Originally Posted By: p_light420
I've been growing organic soil for awhile. After reading this thread a couple months ago I decided to try DWC. I built one bucket for the test, rooted a grapefruit clone into it. It's now been in 12/12 for 7 days, and it is EXPLODING with growth! I used Fox Farm grow big with some B1 for veg, and just started with a mix of Grow Big and FF Tiger Bloom for the first week of flower. I'll go to just Tiger Bloom next week, plus a splash of FF Big Bloom.

The first and most amazing thing I notice about this method is how fast it grows. It took about 8 days to show roots, then I vegged for 2 weeks after that, plus one week in 12/12, and it is already the size of my soil plants that were vegged for a month and in week 5 of flower. The fan leaves are three times the size of my soil plants. I noticed the most explosive growth in the last week since I moved it to the flower room, where I have co2. Moving it from a 175w MH to a 1000w HPS with co2 made this plant double in size in a week. AMAZING!

I like organic grown weed, I have swore by organics for a long time. This is my first hydro attempt, but i want to see if I can do organic DWC.


I did organic with FF, but I'm done with that.

There isn't any real benefit to organics. An element is an element and your plant doesn't know the difference.

Since I went with refined nutes, I now have much less turbidity, it's cheaper, and it's a lot simpler.

The FF line is great for beginners, but once you get the feel for what your plants crave (plants crave Brawndo - it's got electrolytes)then you can roll your own a bit more.

I tossed my nute schedules and my plants are happier for it.

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#1372330 - 12/31/07 12:37 PM Re: DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How [Re: FellowTraveller]
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Hey i have a question...Is it possible to grow more than one plant in a 2.5 gallon bucket??
The strain would obviously have to be small; ie-lowryder

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